All Y’all Atheists.

[The Orson Empire]

I refuse to loose faith in God. That is why I always put religion first, science second.

You don't lose 'God' by being neutral. Infact a bunch of people believe in god but think that he has better things to do than waste time with us (aka Deists).

Lack of outward active faith in the unfalsifiable does not mean the belief in the lack thereof.

Waste time? We are supposed to pray all the time, so how is that wasting time? I shall always have faith in Him

[Madoka Kaname]

Oh please, science will never be able to provide all of the answers, and you're kidding yourself if you think it will.

Of course it won't. Otherwise it would've stopped. And I would be out of a job...

Faith isn't "scientific ignorance", it's simply another way of searching for truth.

A truth that only a paltry percentage of all population accepts...

[Orcoa]

You know, if you're not going to be an atheist, why worship an old boring god? Why not make up your own? Your own praying rituals, your own temple, etc.

If I wasn't an atheist, I'd be a Norse Pagan. The most liberal and friendly religion ever. Also Valhalla = win.

........I don't now about Liberal and friendly but hey I do love the Vikings a lot

[San-Silvacian]

And this is why I don't like considering myself either atheist or theist, at least on the internet that is. To many jackasses that can't just simply nod and respect people's decisions, they have to feel that they need to convert everyone to their style of thinking because they think its right.

Fuckin' A guys, if they wanna be a theist let 'em be a theist, if they wanna be atheist let them be atheist.

But, who am I? Someone speaking logically on NS, and everyone knows people who try to quell bickering and simply get ignored.

I'll just leave this here, maybe someone will understand it and simply back out even if they lose e-face.

[Greater Shoggothia]

Faith is just gullibility wrapped in a pretty package, and gullibility is never a virtue.

I don't see what is so bad about having Faith. It's not hurting anyone

Yep, faith never hurt anyone.

[Divair]

If I wasn't an atheist, I'd be a Norse Pagan. The most liberal and friendly religion ever. Also Valhalla = win.

........I don't now about Liberal and friendly but hey I do love the Vikings a lot

I didn't say anything about the followers it had a few hundred years ago

[The Orson Empire]

I don't see what is so bad about having Faith. It's not hurting anyone

Au Contaire Monsieur.
Have you read a history book? Do you watch the news? Or better yet, just take a gander at that link Divair posted.
http://i.imgur.com/mpQA0.jpg

yeah I know about it. But those people are extremists. Your not supposed to murder someone because of their beliefs.

[Veladio]

You know, if you're not going to be an atheist, why worship an old boring god? Why not make up your own? Your own praying rituals, your own temple, etc.

If I wasn't an atheist, I'd be a Norse Pagan. The most liberal and friendly religion ever. Also Valhalla = win.

I've got friends who are Asatrus, I am a fan of the Eddas.

[Genivaria]

You know, if you're not going to be an atheist, why worship an old boring god? Why not make up your own? Your own praying rituals, your own temple, etc.

If I wasn't an atheist, I'd be a Norse Pagan. The most liberal and friendly religion ever. Also Valhalla = win.

Don't know much about Norse mythology, but I value wisdom and knowledge more then battle, got a god for me?

[The Orson Empire]

And this is why I don't like considering myself either atheist or theist, at least on the internet that is. To many jackasses that can't just simply nod and respect people's decisions, they have to feel that they need to convert everyone to their style of thinking because they think its right.

Fuckin' A guys, if they wanna be a theist let 'em be a theist, if they wanna be atheist let them be atheist.

But, who am I? Someone speaking logically on NS, and everyone knows people who try to quell bickering and simply get ignored.

I'll just leave this here, maybe someone will understand it and simply back out even if they lose e-face.

I respect Athiests. I respect everyone

[Orcoa]

........I don't now about Liberal and friendly but hey I do love the Vikings a lot

I didn't say anything about the followers it had a few hundred years ago

Oh! Never mind then, I will say I do love the Norse Myth...nothing says badass then Giant God wolves and Ice Giants fighting Entire armies of undead...why can't my religion be as cool?

[Genivaria]

Au Contaire Monsieur.
Have you read a history book? Do you watch the news? Or better yet, just take a gander at that link Divair posted.
http://i.imgur.com/mpQA0.jpg

yeah I know about it. But those people are extremists. Your not supposed to murder someone because of their beliefs.

No they're not. They're doing exactly what their holy books are telling them to do. Thats not extremism.

[Caninope]

Mathematical support is evidence actually. Have mathematical support (assuming you have proofs done etc.) and your theory will be accepted. Were such things be grounded on faith, we would have a lot of emotional dramas whenever someone got their theory replaced.

And there are lots of things that perhaps could be supported with mathematical proof like white holes, but it seems fair enough to say that we've found no proof of a black hole. Math simply proves that something isn't impossible, as opposed to it actually existing.

Tis can't rightfully be called faith when the very thing you're trying to justify exist is grounded on something natural (e.g mathematics). Believing that, say, the first man had a first wife called Lilith is different since your justification is anything but natural.

It can most certainly be called faith. Thinking the Higgs Boson exists was most certainly a belief until about July 4th, and I would say that it require a bit of a leap of faith to believe in it. It's not a large leap- certainly not of the same magnitude to believe in God, say, but that doesn't mean that it didn't take faith to believe in a hypothetical particle.

Having faith isn't a bad thing. Faith in a shared community is what makes a nation for instance.

That's nice, but I'm talking about your liberal interpretation of science. You cannot just fill in gaps like that and call it science. How easy it would be for me to obtain a physics degree if that was possible.

It's a good thing I didn't call faith science. I said instead that faith fills the void of what we don't know, or can't know. That doesn't necessarily mean that faith is ignorance. Science has not yet determined, and might not ever be able to, the meaning of a sapient life. Faith can help fill this void.

[Madoka Kaname]

If I wasn't an atheist, I'd be a Norse Pagan. The most liberal and friendly religion ever. Also Valhalla = win.

Don't know much about Norse mythology, but I value wisdom and knowledge more then battle, got a god for me?

If only Farn is still on active duty...

[Absurd Ramblings]

In my school district the pledge was mandatory. Don't stand? Principle's office.

You should stand up for your principles and refuse to go to the Principal's office if you refuse to stand up.

I think I love you.

[Orcoa]

If I wasn't an atheist, I'd be a Norse Pagan. The most liberal and friendly religion ever. Also Valhalla = win.

Don't know much about Norse mythology, but I value wisdom and knowledge more then battle, got a god for me?

Odin is your god then

[Greater Shoggothia]

Thanks Mavorpen.

Oh please, science will never be able to provide all of the answers, and you're kidding yourself if you think it will. Faith isn't "scientific ignorance", it's simply another way of searching for truth.

If you call announcing that you have the truth and then refusing to change your mind, "searching," then I don't even know where to begin.

[The Orson Empire]

yeah I know about it. But those people are extremists. Your not supposed to murder someone because of their beliefs.

No they're not. They're doing exactly what their holy books are telling them to do. Thats not extremism.

The holy books are against murder. Well the Bible is. I am not sure about the other books

[Genivaria]

Don't know much about Norse mythology, but I value wisdom and knowledge more then battle, got a god for me?

Odin is your god then

Wait, really? I thought he was a war god.

[Divair]

If I wasn't an atheist, I'd be a Norse Pagan. The most liberal and friendly religion ever. Also Valhalla = win.

Don't know much about Norse mythology, but I value wisdom and knowledge more then battle, got a god for me?

iirc, knowledge is still valued in Norse Paganism. I think Odin is the more knowledge oriented one, though. There's also Mimir, Snotra, and Vor.

[Orcoa]

Odin is your god then

Wait, really? I thought he was a war god.

He is the God of War, Poetry, Wisdom, Magic...and death

[Wamitoria]

Which is ignorance if you are to interpret science liberally like that.

No. Ignorance is lack of knowledge. There are some things for which we must have proof, because there's no knowledge (or perhaps, no way of knowing anything) on the topic.

Take the Higgs Boson. Until recently, it would be fair to say that most scientists believed/had faith that such a boson existed. Until very recently, there was nothing concrete to support the idea of a Boson, only mathematical support (but that's hardly a guarantee of anything). In fact, we found very little evidence for the Higgs Boson initially, IIRC.

Having faith isn't a bad thing. Faith in a shared community is what makes a nation for instance.

Of course, but having unquestioning faith in anything is usually a bad thing.

[Socialist Ecuador]

No they're not. They're doing exactly what their holy books are telling them to do. Thats not extremism.

The holy books are against murder. Well the Bible is. I am not sure about the other books

Unless God does it. In that case, it's all cool.

[Greater Shoggothia]

Odin is your god then

Wait, really? I thought he was a war god.

They're all war gods. That's the best part of Norse Mythology.

[Caninope]

Don't know much about Norse mythology, but I value wisdom and knowledge more then battle, got a god for me?

If only Farn is still on active duty...

She's currently on a several century leave of absence. Last I saw her in the Pantheon she was muttering something about living it up as a woman in the US.