All Y’all Atheists.

[The Orson Empire]

I don't know how it works. I only know what the Bible tells me. But there is also a lot of sin in the world, which contributes to the problems we face today.

Why is there sin? Why can't God simply get rid of sin? And before you say he gave us free will, please explain why God cannot give us both free will and erase sin. Again, if God is all powerful, none of these things would be a problem. The fact the world is a bad place is testament that either 1)God doesn't exist. 2)God is a selfish asshole.

It's because of Adam and Eve. They messed up, which is slowly making the universe die. It's also because of Satan

[Greater Shoggothia]

Why is there sin? Why can't God simply get rid of sin? And before you say he gave us free will, please explain why God cannot give us both free will and erase sin. Again, if God is all powerful, none of these things would be a problem. The fact the world is a bad place is testament that either 1)God doesn't exist. 2)God is a selfish asshole.

It's because of Adam and Eve. They messed up, which is slowly making the universe die. It's also because of Satan

Why should we pay for something we did not do?

That's not morality.

[Zanzibarnia]

By reward I meant when I die I would go to Heaven. Thats the only reward I seek, is his mercy. That is one of the main reasons why i love him so he will have mercy on me and not send me to eternal damnation.

You love him because otherwise he would not have mercy on you and send you to eternal damnation?

That is an absolutely horrible reason to love someone. Nor would that entity be worthy of love in the first place.

Love born of fear, one could argue, is not love at all.

[The Orson Empire]

No it comes from Satan, God's enemy

And who created Satan? God. By the way, I thought God created everything. How and why would God allow Satan to create anything?

Satan tried to take over heaven, but God kicked him out. so now Satan is trying to destroy God. but whenever the universe ends, he will be defeated.

[Hetland 2]

This thread is bad at being athiest... Oh well...

I'm Het, I live in Minnesota, and I'm agnostic.

[Wilsonbiggs]

QUICK, DISPROVE http://joyofsatan.org/

You see, everything is good AND evil. It just depends on the viewpoint. Person A thinks his god is good and the other is evil. Vice versa.

[Seperates]

Why is there sin? Why can't God simply get rid of sin? And before you say he gave us free will, please explain why God cannot give us both free will and erase sin. Again, if God is all powerful, none of these things would be a problem. The fact the world is a bad place is testament that either 1)God doesn't exist. 2)God is a selfish asshole.

It's because of Adam and Eve. They messed up, which is slowly making the universe die. It's also because of Satan

Adam and Eve have never existed. What is your point?

[Veladio]

And who created Satan? God. By the way, I thought God created everything. How and why would God allow Satan to create anything?

Satan tried to take over heaven, but God kicked him out. so now Satan is trying to destroy God. but whenever the universe ends, he will be defeated.

...then why does satan even try if it is already written in stone that he will fail?

[Mavorpen]

It's because of Adam and Eve. They messed up, which is slowly making the universe die. It's also because of Satan

That's not why the universe will eventually die.

But you've created MORE questions. Why did God not create Adam and Eve perfect? And you really didn't answer my question as to why sin still exists. Why can God not simply erase it from existence? I addressed the Satan part in another post.

[The Orson Empire]

By reward I meant when I die I would go to Heaven. Thats the only reward I seek, is his mercy. That is one of the main reasons why i love him so he will have mercy on me and not send me to eternal damnation.

You love him because otherwise he would not have mercy on you and send you to eternal damnation?

That is an absolutely horrible reason to love someone. Nor would that entity be worthy of love in the first place.

Love born of fear, one could argue, is not love at all.

That isn't the only reason I love him. That is just one of many. Thats the main reason I worship him, though, but its also because He is our creator

[Greater Shoggothia]

And who created Satan? God. By the way, I thought God created everything. How and why would God allow Satan to create anything?

Satan tried to take over heaven, but God kicked him out. so now Satan is trying to destroy God. but whenever the universe ends, he will be defeated.

Why wait 10^100 years for the heat death of the Universe when he could just do him in now?

[The Orson Empire]

It's because of Adam and Eve. They messed up, which is slowly making the universe die. It's also because of Satan

That's not why the universe will eventually die.

But you've created MORE questions. Why did God not create Adam and Eve perfect? And you really didn't answer my question as to why sin still exists. Why can God not simply erase it from existence? I addressed the Satan part in another post.

Satan will eventually be erased, in then end times

[Seperates]

And who created Satan? God. By the way, I thought God created everything. How and why would God allow Satan to create anything?

Satan tried to take over heaven, but God kicked him out. so now Satan is trying to destroy God. but whenever the universe ends, he will be defeated.

Why does God allow Satan to even exist if he is "all-powerful"?

[Mavorpen]

Satan tried to take over heaven, but God kicked him out. so now Satan is trying to destroy God. but whenever the universe ends, he will be defeated.

Why would God create Satan if he knew Satan would betray him? And why would God kick him out, allowing Satan to lure humans to do evil? Why could God have simply not cleansed him?

[Greater Shoggothia]

This thread is bad at being athiest... Oh well...

I'm Het, I live in Minnesota, and I'm agnostic.

Ello m8, I'm in Minneapolis.

[Mavorpen]

Satan will eventually be erased, in then end times

Why. Not. Now. Why must I suffer because God is too lazy to do anything about Satan now?

[Seperates]

That's not why the universe will eventually die.

But you've created MORE questions. Why did God not create Adam and Eve perfect? And you really didn't answer my question as to why sin still exists. Why can God not simply erase it from existence? I addressed the Satan part in another post.

Satan will eventually be erased, in then end times

Then what motive does Satan have then, if his defeat is inevitable?

[The Orson Empire]

Satan tried to take over heaven, but God kicked him out. so now Satan is trying to destroy God. but whenever the universe ends, he will be defeated.

Why would God create Satan if he knew Satan would betray him? And why would God kick him out, allowing Satan to lure humans to do evil? Why could God have simply not cleansed him?

He couldn't. It's just how the universe works- good vs evil. Don't forget Satan also did take 1/3 of the angels from Heaven with him

[Condunum]

And who created Satan? God. By the way, I thought God created everything. How and why would God allow Satan to create anything?

Satan tried to take over heaven, but God kicked him out. so now Satan is trying to destroy God. but whenever the universe ends, he will be defeated.

According to the Bible, that's how it happened. According to another religious text, that may not be how it happened. And according to another, they may both have been destroyed by a greater God. And so on, and so forth.

[The Orson Empire]

Satan will eventually be erased, in then end times

Why. Not. Now. Why must I suffer because God is too lazy to do anything about Satan now?

It's just the way things are. It's not time for the end of the world yet.

[The Blaatschapen]

I was raised a Christian and was subjected to religious "education" from grade school to my high school years. In my first year in college, I decided that I should actually sit down and read the book that my faith was based upon. This effectively forced me to re-evaluate what I had been "taught" during the majority of my life. I was shocked at what the educators and priests had skipped or glossed over. This prompted me to research my religion further and was what ultimately led me to my choice to become an Aethist. I can hardly begrudge a person for finding comfort where they might, but I can not bring myself to believe in something that either purposefully misled me or was "conveniently" ignorant of some of its more disturbing principles.

As an example I have included a sample of passages I found particularly disturbing:

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet." (1 Timothy 2:12)

"Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22)

"Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses." (1 Samuel 15:3)

"You shall not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:18)

"Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock." (Psalm 137:9)

"And the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity." (Romans 1:27)

"Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse." (1 Peter 2:18)

The old Testament invented the "make me a sandwich" meme.

[Mavorpen]

He couldn't. It's just how the universe works- good vs evil. Don't forget Satan also did take 1/3 of the angels from Heaven with him

God created the universe. Why is he subject to laws of the universe? What, because Satan took a large number of angels, that means God can't purify them? Again, all powerful being can't do something because there are a larger number of them?

[Hallistar]

ATTENTION MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS
Athiests,they don't belive in anything, they are smaller and weaker ( in terms of size and influence )than christians.
Their all going to HELL anyway so when we are all dead we can laugh at them from our mansions in HEAVEN
Why do Athiests even need a forum?
So they can talk about everything that they don't belive in?
To complain about how Christians are trying to convert them every time they mention god?
(Paranoia)

"The Christians are trying to convert me, ALWAYS trying to convert me"
-every atheists EVER!!!!!

The guy who made this thread was looking for a fight, (typical Atheist)
he wanted to take a dump on our beliefs so he could feel better about his, like a bully, and this is true about all Atheists.
Yep that's right, don't feel sorry for atheists when they tell you they were bullied because now they are the bullies.
The deepest pit in hell is reserved for Atheists.

My belief in God is sound
it's as solid as the ground
and no servent of damnation
will ever shake its foundation

This sounds like a Landover Baptist Church forum post. I'm reusing those last four lines, it's pure gold.

[Condunum]

Why would God create Satan if he knew Satan would betray him? And why would God kick him out, allowing Satan to lure humans to do evil? Why could God have simply not cleansed him?

He couldn't. It's just how the universe works- good vs evil. Don't forget Satan also did take 1/3 of the angels from Heaven with him

What says Satan is a bad person?

[Hochwalde]

I'm an atheist because I've had an amazing and happy life thus far, I don't need spirituality to be emotionally satisfied, and because I have access to a vast wealth of knowledge and don't need a diety to explain existence.

Also the idea of there being a being inherently better than I am is repugnant.