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Who do you think should be the President of the United States

Poll ended at Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:59 pm

Barack Obama
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63%
Mitt Romney
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28%
Ron Paul
4
9%
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Arathian nation » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:59 pm

I just want to see if NationStates leans towards Obama, or towards Romney
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Postby Burgicis » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:00 pm

Thanks for listing Ron Paul :hug:

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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:00 pm

Ha ha! Barack is a funny first name.
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Postby Arathian nation » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:01 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:Ha ha! Barack is a funny first name.


No, Barack Hussein Obama is a funny name.
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Postby Dubceskia » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:02 pm

Barack Obama. If I had a choice, I'd choose Ralph Nader.
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Postby Burgicis » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:02 pm

Arathian nation wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:Ha ha! Barack is a funny first name.


No, Barack Hussein Obama is a funny name.


No. It's not.

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Postby Hibernion (Ancient) » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:03 pm

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:03 pm

Arathian nation wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:Ha ha! Barack is a funny first name.


No, Barack Hussein Obama is a funny name.

Hussein is an old and traditional Arabic name.
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Postby Arathian nation » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:04 pm

You guys are crazy. Obama is a horrible president, first of all he is making us all poor, second his is ruining the health system, and third, he is allowing illegal immigrants to come to our country and not pay their damn taxes!
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Postby Midnight Science Fiction Feature » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:05 pm

Arathian nation wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:Ha ha! Barack is a funny first name.


No, Barack Hussein Obama is a funny name.


So what's funny about your middle name being the last name of an Iraqi dictator who was ousted from power a decade ago? Especially when that name existed before either two were born.

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Postby Retro Lyra » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:05 pm

Arathian nation wrote:You guys are crazy. Obama is a horrible president, first of all he is making us all poor, second his is ruining the health system, and third, he is allowing illegal immigrants to come to our country and not pay their damn taxes!


Instead of questioning our intelligence, can't you give us proof of this? Through something other than the angry ramblings of a drunken nation, I mean.
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Postby Burgicis » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:06 pm

Arathian nation wrote:You guys are crazy. Obama is a horrible president, first of all he is making us all poor, second his is ruining the health system, and third, he is allowing illegal immigrants to come to our country and not pay their damn taxes!


So, in other words, the usual.

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Postby Delanshar » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:06 pm

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:06 pm

Arathian nation wrote:You guys are crazy. Obama is a horrible president, first of all he is making us all poor, second his is ruining the health system, and third, he is allowing illegal immigrants to come to our country and not pay their damn taxes!

Every one of those statements is patently false.
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Postby Midnight Science Fiction Feature » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:07 pm

Arathian nation wrote:You guys are crazy. Obama is a horrible president, first of all he is making us all poor, second his is ruining the health system, and third, he is allowing illegal immigrants to come to our country and not pay their damn taxes!


I thought conservatives didn't like taxes.

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Postby Hibernion (Ancient) » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:07 pm

Arathian nation wrote:You guys are crazy. Obama is a horrible president, first of all he is making us all poor, second his is ruining the health system, and third, he is allowing illegal immigrants to come to our country and not pay their damn taxes!


That is why we need a one party system headed by an authoritarian leader.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:08 pm

Delanshar wrote:Wilington Mittfeld Romney IV

Who? The former Governor of Massachusetts is Willard Mitt Romney.
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Postby Arathian nation » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:08 pm

#1 Today there are 88 million working age Americans that are not employed and that are not looking for employment. That is an all-time record high.

#2 When Barack Obama was elected, the percentage of unemployed Americans that had been out of work for more than 52 weeks was less than 15%. Today, it is above 30%.

#3 There are 1.2 million fewer jobs in America today than there were when Barack Obama was inaugurated.

#4 When Barack Obama first took office, the number of "long-term unemployed workers" in the United States was approximately 2.6 million. Today, that number is sitting at 5.6 million.

#5 The average duration of unemployment in the United States is hovering close to an all-time record high.

#6 During the Obama administration, worker health insurance costs have risen by 23 percent.

#7 Since Barack Obama has been president, the average price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States has increased by 90 percent.

#8 Since Barack Obama has been president, home values in the United States have declined by another 13 percent.

#9 Under Barack Obama, new home sales in the U.S. set a brand new all-time record low in 2009, they set a brand new all-time record low again in 2010, and they set a brand new all-time record low once again during 2011.

#10 Since Barack Obama took office, the number of Americans living in poverty has risen by more than 6 million.

#11 Since Barack Obama entered the White House, the number of Americans on food stamps has increased from 32 million to 46 million.

#12 The amount of money that the federal government gives directly to Americans has increased by 32 percent since Barack Obama entered the White House.

#13 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the percentage of Americans living in "extreme poverty" is now sitting at an all-time high.

#14 When Barack Obama first took office, an ounce of gold was going for about $850. Today an ounce of gold costs more than $1700 an ounce.

#15 Since Barack Obama became president, the size of the U.S. national debt has increased by 44 percent.

#16 During Barack Obama's first two years in office, the U.S. government added more to the U.S. national debt than the first 100 U.S. Congresses combined.

#17 During the Obama administration, the U.S. government has accumulated more debt than it did from the time that George Washington took office to the time that Bill Clinton took office.

#18 The U.S. national debt has been increasing by an average of more than 4 billion dollars per day since the beginning of the Obama administration.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:08 pm

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Arathian nation wrote:You guys are crazy. Obama is a horrible president, first of all he is making us all poor, second his is ruining the health system, and third, he is allowing illegal immigrants to come to our country and not pay their damn taxes!


I thought conservatives didn't like taxes.

They hate it when they have to pay them.
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Postby Retro Lyra » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:10 pm

Arathian nation";p="9773321[spoiler] wrote:#1 Today there are 88 million working age Americans that are not employed and that are not looking for employment. That is an all-time record high.

#2 When Barack Obama was elected, the percentage of unemployed Americans that had been out of work for more than 52 weeks was less than 15%. Today, it is above 30%.

#3 There are 1.2 million fewer jobs in America today than there were when Barack Obama was inaugurated.

#4 When Barack Obama first took office, the number of "long-term unemployed workers" in the United States was approximately 2.6 million. Today, that number is sitting at 5.6 million.

#5 The average duration of unemployment in the United States is hovering close to an all-time record high.

#6 During the Obama administration, worker health insurance costs have risen by 23 percent.

#7 Since Barack Obama has been president, the average price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States has increased by 90 percent.

#8 Since Barack Obama has been president, home values in the United States have declined by another 13 percent.

#9 Under Barack Obama, new home sales in the U.S. set a brand new all-time record low in 2009, they set a brand new all-time record low again in 2010, and they set a brand new all-time record low once again during 2011.

#10 Since Barack Obama took office, the number of Americans living in poverty has risen by more than 6 million.

#11 Since Barack Obama entered the White House, the number of Americans on food stamps has increased from 32 million to 46 million.

#12 The amount of money that the federal government gives directly to Americans has increased by 32 percent since Barack Obama entered the White House.

#13 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the percentage of Americans living in "extreme poverty" is now sitting at an all-time high.

#14 When Barack Obama first took office, an ounce of gold was going for about $850. Today an ounce of gold costs more than $1700 an ounce.

#15 Since Barack Obama became president, the size of the U.S. national debt has increased by 44 percent.

#16 During Barack Obama's first two years in office, the U.S. government added more to the U.S. national debt than the first 100 U.S. Congresses combined.

#17 During the Obama administration, the U.S. government has accumulated more debt than it did from the time that George Washington took office to the time that Bill Clinton took office.

#18 The U.S. national debt has been increasing by an average of more than 4 billion dollars per day since the beginning of the Obama administration.[/spoiler]


There, now how hard was that? Though citation may be needed.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:13 pm

Citation needed for guy above.

Also, Obama 100000000%.
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:14 pm

Arathian nation wrote:#1 Today there are 88 million working age Americans that are not employed and that are not looking for employment. That is an all-time record high.

#2 When Barack Obama was elected, the percentage of unemployed Americans that had been out of work for more than 52 weeks was less than 15%. Today, it is above 30%.

#3 There are 1.2 million fewer jobs in America today than there were when Barack Obama was inaugurated.

#4 When Barack Obama first took office, the number of "long-term unemployed workers" in the United States was approximately 2.6 million. Today, that number is sitting at 5.6 million.

#5 The average duration of unemployment in the United States is hovering close to an all-time record high.

#6 During the Obama administration, worker health insurance costs have risen by 23 percent.

#7 Since Barack Obama has been president, the average price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States has increased by 90 percent.

#8 Since Barack Obama has been president, home values in the United States have declined by another 13 percent.

#9 Under Barack Obama, new home sales in the U.S. set a brand new all-time record low in 2009, they set a brand new all-time record low again in 2010, and they set a brand new all-time record low once again during 2011.

#10 Since Barack Obama took office, the number of Americans living in poverty has risen by more than 6 million.

#11 Since Barack Obama entered the White House, the number of Americans on food stamps has increased from 32 million to 46 million.

#12 The amount of money that the federal government gives directly to Americans has increased by 32 percent since Barack Obama entered the White House.

#13 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the percentage of Americans living in "extreme poverty" is now sitting at an all-time high.

#14 When Barack Obama first took office, an ounce of gold was going for about $850. Today an ounce of gold costs more than $1700 an ounce.

#15 Since Barack Obama became president, the size of the U.S. national debt has increased by 44 percent.

#16 During Barack Obama's first two years in office, the U.S. government added more to the U.S. national debt than the first 100 U.S. Congresses combined.
#17 During the Obama administration, the U.S. government has accumulated more debt than it did from the time that George Washington took office to the time that Bill Clinton took office.

#18 The U.S. national debt has been increasing by an average of more than 4 billion dollars per day since the beginning of the Obama administration.


that is a MUCH better post than your first mindless rant. facts are important in a discussion on this site.

i dont even have to answer you point by point though. all i have to say is

WE ARE IN THE WORST DOWNTURN SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. if mitt romney had been elected in '08 all those statistics would have been the same (or worse if he would have done what he said he would have done)
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Postby Midnight Science Fiction Feature » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:14 pm

Arathian nation wrote:-snip-


[citation needed]

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Postby Burgicis » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:17 pm

Arathian nation wrote:#1 Today there are 88 million working age Americans that are not employed and that are not looking for employment. That is an all-time record high.

#2 When Barack Obama was elected, the percentage of unemployed Americans that had been out of work for more than 52 weeks was less than 15%. Today, it is above 30%.

#3 There are 1.2 million fewer jobs in America today than there were when Barack Obama was inaugurated.

#4 When Barack Obama first took office, the number of "long-term unemployed workers" in the United States was approximately 2.6 million. Today, that number is sitting at 5.6 million.

#5 The average duration of unemployment in the United States is hovering close to an all-time record high.

#6 During the Obama administration, worker health insurance costs have risen by 23 percent.

#7 Since Barack Obama has been president, the average price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States has increased by 90 percent.

#8 Since Barack Obama has been president, home values in the United States have declined by another 13 percent.

#9 Under Barack Obama, new home sales in the U.S. set a brand new all-time record low in 2009, they set a brand new all-time record low again in 2010, and they set a brand new all-time record low once again during 2011.

#10 Since Barack Obama took office, the number of Americans living in poverty has risen by more than 6 million.

#11 Since Barack Obama entered the White House, the number of Americans on food stamps has increased from 32 million to 46 million.

#12 The amount of money that the federal government gives directly to Americans has increased by 32 percent since Barack Obama entered the White House.

#13 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the percentage of Americans living in "extreme poverty" is now sitting at an all-time high.

#14 When Barack Obama first took office, an ounce of gold was going for about $850. Today an ounce of gold costs more than $1700 an ounce.

#15 Since Barack Obama became president, the size of the U.S. national debt has increased by 44 percent.

#16 During Barack Obama's first two years in office, the U.S. government added more to the U.S. national debt than the first 100 U.S. Congresses combined.

#17 During the Obama administration, the U.S. government has accumulated more debt than it did from the time that George Washington took office to the time that Bill Clinton took office.

#18 The U.S. national debt has been increasing by an average of more than 4 billion dollars per day since the beginning of the Obama administration.


1: with a population increase of course that is going to happen. So I prefer to focus on percentage instead.

2: lol what? No, it's 11%; 4% less than when he became president.

3: won't look that up to prove you wrong, but with unemployment rates going down I'm just going to assume its wrong.

4: again, unemployment rates are going DOWN

5: what?

6: okay, you win this one...

7: Completely not his fault. I doubt it's even 90% because we would have 12 dollar gas. It has hovered around 4 dollars for a while, I think it's actually been going down. But the president has no say in gas prices. It's the middle east that ultimately decides the price.

8: you win this one...

You had such a long list I won't respond to them all,but you are mostly wrong.

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