Father Kills Child Molester

[Person012345]

The man is a hero, and anyone on a jury that'd ever pronounce him guilty needs to have their head examined, preferably by way of fist.

Because a jury would know less about the case than you. Thus a good way for real justice to be served is to threaten violence against anyone who disagrees with you.

[Anomalous Research and Containment]

The killing isn't the problem.

It's living with yourself after the fact. That's the hard part.

When you kill a person, you're not just reducing living matter to dead matter. You are destroying someone like you. When you see the life fade from a person's eyes, you are forever changed by it, and not for the good.

Considering the guy's daughter was being molested, I don't think he's going to lose too much sleep over it.

You're wrong.

It's very difficult to go on with life and not "lose too much sleep over it" after seeing someone die in front of you, whether you killed them or not.

[Treefolk]

Sounds like self defense to me. I'd do the same if I caught someone doing that to my daughter. Should go free on Self Defense, imo.

[Anomalous Research and Containment]

Sounds like self defense to me. I'd do the same if I caught someone doing that to my daughter. Should go free on Self Defense, imo.

TBF, he probably will walk.

[Cannot think of a name]

Considering the guy's daughter was being molested, I don't think he's going to lose too much sleep over it.

You're wrong.

It's very difficult to go on with life and not "lose too much sleep over it" after seeing someone die in front of you, whether you killed them or not.

Seriously. I had the misfortune of watching a neighbor die while we waited for the paramedics, and that shit still fucks with my head. And I was barely involved.

[Jimanistan]

Looks like he won't be going to prison for it, which is just as well.

He did what should have been done, as far as I'm concerned.

[Wiztopia]

Considering the guy's daughter was being molested, I don't think he's going to lose too much sleep over it.

You're wrong.

It's very difficult to go on with life and not "lose too much sleep over it" after seeing someone die in front of you, whether you killed them or not.

Does that include natural death?

[Galla-]

You're wrong.

It's very difficult to go on with life and not "lose too much sleep over it" after seeing someone die in front of you, whether you killed them or not.

Does that include natural death?

Did I say it doesn't?

[Great Nepal]

You're wrong.
It's very difficult to go on with life and not "lose too much sleep over it" after seeing someone die in front of you, whether you killed them or not.

I think it is different when you kill someone acting against someone you really care about. It is easily justifiable and logically not taking that action would have caused even greater harm.
Although, I haven't been in that situation: I think if I saw someone doing that to someone I care about: I would kill and sleep like baby after that.

[Galla-]

You're wrong.
It's very difficult to go on with life and not "lose too much sleep over it" after seeing someone die in front of you, whether you killed them or not.

I think it is different when you kill someone acting against someone you really care about. It is easily justifiable and logically not taking that action would have caused even greater harm.
Although, I haven't been in that situation: I think if I saw someone doing that to someone I care about: I would kill and sleep like baby after that.

Then you should seek psychiatric help.

Or actually ball up and do it, instead of talking masturbatory, badass fantasies.

Soldiers who have killed, ones who aren't even killing human beings, have trouble sleeping at night. When you have that disconnect between human-object and still have nightmares about killing, then it is traumatic and there is no "sleeping like a baby" unless you're a psychopath.

[Great Nepal]

Then you should seek psychiatric help.
Or actually ball up and do it, instead of talking masturbatory, badass fantasies.
Soldiers who have killed, ones who aren't even killing human beings, have trouble sleeping at night. When you have that disconnect between human-object and still have nightmares about killing, then it is traumatic and there is no "sleeping like a baby" unless you're a psychopath.

What is logical?
Letting some random guy molest someone you care about or killing the guy and protecting someone you care about?

[Galla-]

Then you should seek psychiatric help.
Or actually ball up and do it, instead of talking masturbatory, badass fantasies.
Soldiers who have killed, ones who aren't even killing human beings, have trouble sleeping at night. When you have that disconnect between human-object and still have nightmares about killing, then it is traumatic and there is no "sleeping like a baby" unless you're a psychopath.

What is logical?
Letting some random guy molest someone you care about or killing the guy and protecting someone you care about?

Obviously if you gave a shit you'd be a bit violent, unless you were a psychopath.

That doesn't mean you'll sleep well. You'll have nightmares for the rest of your life, and have to learn to live with it, unless you were a psychopath.

[Great Nepal]

What is logical?
Letting some random guy molest someone you care about or killing the guy and protecting someone you care about?

Obviously if you gave a shit you'd be a bit violent, unless you were a psychopath.

That doesn't mean you'll sleep well. You'll have nightmares for the rest of your life, and have to learn to live with it, unless you were a psychopath.

I really doubt that happens, seeing you can justify it as being the only logical course of action available.

[Galla-]

Obviously if you gave a shit you'd be a bit violent, unless you were a psychopath.

That doesn't mean you'll sleep well. You'll have nightmares for the rest of your life, and have to learn to live with it, unless you were a psychopath.

I really doubt that happens

Well you're wrong.

[Cannot think of a name]

Then you should seek psychiatric help.
Or actually ball up and do it, instead of talking masturbatory, badass fantasies.
Soldiers who have killed, ones who aren't even killing human beings, have trouble sleeping at night. When you have that disconnect between human-object and still have nightmares about killing, then it is traumatic and there is no "sleeping like a baby" unless you're a psychopath.

What is logical?
Letting some random guy molest someone you care about or killing the guy and protecting someone you care about?

Maybe it's my lack of desire to be a badass, but I like to think I'd go for option 3, get my daughter out of there as my first priority...

[Onekawa-Nukanor]

Personally, the child molester deserved to die, but that's my opinion.

[Great Nepal]

What is logical?
Letting some random guy molest someone you care about or killing the guy and protecting someone you care about?

Maybe it's my lack of desire to be a badass, but I like to think I'd go for option 3, get my daughter out of there as my first priority...

So, that the guy will do it again latter when you aren't there?
If someone tried to do it once, there is strong chance he will try to do it again.

[Cannot think of a name]

Maybe it's my lack of desire to be a badass, but I like to think I'd go for option 3, get my daughter out of there as my first priority...

So, that the guy will do it again latter when you aren't there?
If someone tried to do it once, there is strong chance he will try to do it again.

Yes, because clearly once I've removed my daughter from the situation, you know, the person who should be my first priority, I'd simply dust my hands job well done.

No, wait, I live in a civilized society where there are police and a justice system and a party full of people who will be sympathetic to my cause...right, what the fuck was I thinking?

[Wiztopia]

I really doubt that happens

Well you're wrong.

Citation needed.

[Galla-]

So, that the guy will do it again latter when you aren't there?
If someone tried to do it once, there is strong chance he will try to do it again.

Yes, because clearly once I've removed my daughter from the situation, you know, the person who should be my first priority, I'd simply dust my hands job well done.

No, wait, I live in a civilized society where there are police and a justice system and a party full of people who will be sympathetic to my cause...right, what the fuck was I thinking?

Well TBH in the USA, the police aren't actually required to assist you, tho I'm not sure if you're American or not.

Maybe it's my lack of desire to be a badass, but I like to think I'd go for option 3, get my daughter out of there as my first priority...

So, that the guy will do it again latter when you aren't there?
If someone tried to do it once, there is strong chance he will try to do it again.

TBF I don't see how this justifies the killing of him without a trial.

Strikes me as barbaric and vigilante. Vigilantes are not Batman, they're more like Somali militia.

[Cannot think of a name]

Yes, because clearly once I've removed my daughter from the situation, you know, the person who should be my first priority, I'd simply dust my hands job well done.

No, wait, I live in a civilized society where there are police and a justice system and a party full of people who will be sympathetic to my cause...right, what the fuck was I thinking?

Well TBH in the USA, the police aren't actually required to assist you, tho I'm not sure if you're American or not.

American, and yeah, they're gonna respond to that call. But this "all or nothing" crap is just that, just crap to satiate people's badass fantasies, people sitting around thinking of 'justifications' for acting like an action hero. Too much Walker: Texas Ranger has convinced them that the most satisfying solution to any problem is a roundhouse kick. Fun thing to joke about in games and such, kind of disturbing when done gleefully in front of your four year old daughter.

"See honey? Killing people is awesome. But make sure you come up with a bullshit justification first! Otherwise people might think you're just a violent monster..."

[AiliailiA]

Houston Chronicle (...hey, five letter URL ...)

http://www.chron.com/default/article/Sh ... 625120.php

and 12 hours ago (also read this on Reuters):

http://www.gonzalescannon.com/node/9907

The dead man's name has been released. There are more details, also there were witnesses. Which is good.

[Fluffy Coyotes]

Which means that also the allegation of child abuse against the dead man can't be proven. Right?
So the only fact that can be objectively known is that the father killed a person, so far. An investigation of the whole scene, and possibily an interrogation of the daughter by a psychologist specialized in children, is necessary.

This, exactly. Which is also why he should have just held the guy at gunpoint until the police arrived.

[New Octopucta]

Houston Chronicle (...hey, five letter URL ...)

http://www.chron.com/default/article/Sh ... 625120.php

and 12 hours ago (also read this on Reuters):

http://www.gonzalescannon.com/node/9907

The dead man's name has been released. There are more details, also there were witnesses. Which is good.

That's a nice headline. "Texas man kills Jesus."

[Ifreann]

Which means that also the allegation of child abuse against the dead man can't be proven. Right?
So the only fact that can be objectively known is that the father killed a person, so far. An investigation of the whole scene, and possibily an interrogation of the daughter by a psychologist specialized in children, is necessary.

This, exactly. Which is also why he should have just held the guy at gunpoint until the police arrived.

Because when you're at a party with small children, you carry a loaded gun on you the whole time. You know, just in case.

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Yes, because clearly once I've removed my daughter from the situation, you know, the person who should be my first priority, I'd simply dust my hands job well done.

No, wait, I live in a civilized society where there are police and a justice system and a party full of people who will be sympathetic to my cause...right, what the fuck was I thinking?

Well TBH in the USA, the police aren't actually required to assist you, tho I'm not sure if you're American or not.

Yeah, because the police might get a call about a child being molested and just figure "Nah, fuck it, I'll get some donuts and take a nap instead". I know the pro-gun crowd love that ruling, but it doesn't justify vigilantism.