School gives out form in English? LAWYER UP!!!

[Individual Impersonators]

As a tax payer, I would like to sue all people who do not learn English. The costs required in translation, the extra time taken to communicate with people who speak poor English, the dividing nature of segregation from the majority of the community increasing the chance of crimes, the effects on the financial system of higher unemployment and lower skilled employment as well as the dangers posed by the inability to follow directions all create problems.

If you move to a country that has English as its native language, there should be an obligation to learn it. If not, you should pay for the required translation services, especially if you are planning to or have settled there.

[Katganistan]

What went wrong here was that nobody took the time and effort to speak with those parents at length, making sure they knew what was going on. The 'race' part of this incident has been blown up beyond proportion - the problem is that something like a suspension ought to be regarded more seriously and reasonable effort taken to ensure the involved parties understand what is going on.

A mere FORM is just not adequate for a suspension.

Also, little opinion of mine, I doubt Chinese will become the dominant language anytime soon, in China the number of people learning English is greater than the population of the UK.

http://listverse.com/2008/06/26/top-10- ... the-world/
http://www.vistawide.com/languages/top_30_languages.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4387421/ns/ ... 9nq57WDmSo

Perhaps these may help?

[Ifreann]

As a tax payer, I would like to sue all people who do not learn English. The costs required in translation, the extra time taken to communicate with people who speak poor English, the dividing nature of segregation from the majority of the community increasing the chance of crimes, the effects on the financial system of higher unemployment and lower skilled employment as well as the dangers posed by the inability to follow directions all create problems.

Somehow I doubt any of those things are grounds for a lawsuit, even if they are true and attributable to people who don't speak English.

If you move to a country that has English as its native language,

This doesn't describe the USA, incidentally.

there should be an obligation to learn it. If not, you should pay for the required translation services, especially if you are planning to or have settled there.

No there shouldn't, on both counts.

[Wamitoria]

They're within their rights to request information in their respective language.

[Katganistan]

As a tax payer, I would like to sue all people who do not learn English. The costs required in translation, the extra time taken to communicate with people who speak poor English, the dividing nature of segregation from the majority of the community increasing the chance of crimes, the effects on the financial system of higher unemployment and lower skilled employment as well as the dangers posed by the inability to follow directions all create problems.

If you move to a country that has English as its native language, there should be an obligation to learn it. If not, you should pay for the required translation services, especially if you are planning to or have settled there.

Then perhaps you need to be educated that ENGLISH is NOT THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THE UNITED STATES.
There IS no official language of the United States.

[ArghNeedAName]

The burden should be on Spanish-speaking immigrants to learn English or at least get someone to translate for them. It would cost too much if every single government service was expected to provide all services in Spanish.

[Katganistan]

[ArghNeedAName]

The burden should be on Spanish-speaking immigrants to learn English or at least get someone to translate for them. It would cost too much if every single government service was expected to provide all services in Spanish.

Perhaps you do not understand that ENGLISH IS NOT THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THE UNITED STATES. THERE IS NO OFFICIAL LANGUAGE/

There is no need to be angry. I did not even say that English is the de jure official language because I know that there isn't one. It is, however, the de facto national language and it even says so on Wikipedia, and is spoken fluently about 96% of the American population (not including young kids, presumably). My argument was not that. My argument was quite clear - if government services were to be forced to accomodate Spanish speakers, it would cost time and money to provide services in two languages.

[Ifreann]

The burden should be on Spanish-speaking immigrants to learn English or at least get someone to translate for them. It would cost too much if every single government service was expected to provide all services in Spanish.

If the government doesn't want to communicate with people in Spanish then the government can compensate Spanish speaking residents/citizens for the time and effort necessary to learn whatever language they'd prefer to communicate in.

[ArghNeedAName]

The burden should be on Spanish-speaking immigrants to learn English or at least get someone to translate for them. It would cost too much if every single government service was expected to provide all services in Spanish.

If the government doesn't want to communicate with people in Spanish then the government can compensate Spanish speaking residents/citizens for the time and effort necessary to learn whatever language they'd prefer to communicate in.

I agree, the government should support immigrants in learning the lingo.

[Katganistan]

If the government doesn't want to communicate with people in Spanish then the government can compensate Spanish speaking residents/citizens for the time and effort necessary to learn whatever language they'd prefer to communicate in.

I agree, the government should support immigrants in learning the lingo.

They do. My school, for instance, has evening and weekend classes for parents to learn English. However, if you're working in a sweatshop where one absence can mean you're unemployed, or two jobs to keep your kids fed, you simply don't have the time or ability to take them.

[Ifreann]

If the government doesn't want to communicate with people in Spanish then the government can compensate Spanish speaking residents/citizens for the time and effort necessary to learn whatever language they'd prefer to communicate in.

I agree, the government should support immigrants in learning the lingo.

Not support. Fund, arrange, and compensate for time spent. And not for immigrants. For everyone in the country who can't speak English that has business with the government. Immigrants, tourists, citizens, the lot.

[Nihon koku]

I agree, the government should support immigrants in learning the lingo.

Not support. Fund, arrange, and compensate for time spent. And not for immigrants. For everyone in the country who can't speak English that has business with the government. Immigrants, tourists, citizens, the lot.

Sure, as long as those desiring to learn the language can verify they entered the country legally. The government doesn't need to waste money on people who won't follow the law from the instant they enter the country.

[Gauthier]

And Republicans are still puzzled why Mitt Romney has such a huge Latino Gap.

[Farnhamia]

Not support. Fund, arrange, and compensate for time spent. And not for immigrants. For everyone in the country who can't speak English that has business with the government. Immigrants, tourists, citizens, the lot.

Sure, as long as those desiring to learn the language can verify they entered the country legally. The government doesn't need to waste money on people who won't follow the law from the instant they enter the country.

Irrelevant.

[New Kriegizstan]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/12/us/north-carolina-discrimination/index.html?is_LR=1

A few Latino parents are now going after a local school because, after their students were suspended, they didn't provide any information for them in Spanish.

Wut

Firstly, couldn't they have just spoken to someone who speaks Spanish at the school?

And, why is this necessary? Most people in the US, including Hispanics, certainly in Raleigh, speak English. I would never travel abroad to demand that the locals accommodate my English-speaking.

Fucking typical.

The fucking Mexicans, of course, are too fucking lazy to learn OUR LANGUAGE, and insist on us learning THEIRS.

Fuck them, this is our country, not theirs, we don't go to there country and start demanding they speak English, do we? No.

We do not.

So why the fuck do they think they can just walk into OUR COUNTRY and tell US TO SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE!?

Fuck the Mexicans. They love their damn country, and they language, so fucking much, they can go back to their little corrupt shit hole.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

If Spanish is the language that they choose to use, them Spanish is the language the government ought to communicate with them in. It's the government's job to accommodate the people, not the other way around.

[Pesda]

If enough people in that area speak Spanish, why shouldn't they have Spanish forms? I mean, everyone where I live speak English, does that mean I can't have services in my native language?

[Wamitoria]

we don't go to there country and start demanding they speak English, do we?

Have you ever been a tourist in a foreign country before? Americans demand that all the time.

[Serrland]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/12/us/north-carolina-discrimination/index.html?is_LR=1

A few Latino parents are now going after a local school because, after their students were suspended, they didn't provide any information for them in Spanish.

Wut

Firstly, couldn't they have just spoken to someone who speaks Spanish at the school?

And, why is this necessary? Most people in the US, including Hispanics, certainly in Raleigh, speak English. I would never travel abroad to demand that the locals accommodate my English-speaking.

Fucking typical.

The fucking Mexicans, of course, are too fucking lazy to learn OUR LANGUAGE, and insist on us learning THEIRS.

Fuck them, this is our country, not theirs, we don't go to there country and start demanding they speak English, do we? No.

We do not.

So why the fuck do they think they can just walk into OUR COUNTRY and tell US TO SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE!?

Fuck the Mexicans. They love their damn country, and they language, so fucking much, they can go back to their little corrupt shit hole.

If "they" live "here" it's their country, too...

[Amwestheim]

Because there is no federal set national language, and only hawaii has an official language, it comes under personal freedoms, especially first amendment rights. We have the freedom of speech however it doen't stipulate that we must speak and know English as if it was instinctual. People have to also realize that English is one of the hardest languages to learn.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

New Kriegizstan, why do you hate America so much?

[Nihon koku]

Sure, as long as those desiring to learn the language can verify they entered the country legally. The government doesn't need to waste money on people who won't follow the law from the instant they enter the country.

Irrelevant.

Your opinion.

[Cu Math]

The number of racists here is approaching critical mass, and they seem to have reached critical density.
Seriously, though, what's wrong with printing forms in another language that work? I literally see no issue here.-

[Ifreann]

Not support. Fund, arrange, and compensate for time spent. And not for immigrants. For everyone in the country who can't speak English that has business with the government. Immigrants, tourists, citizens, the lot.

Sure, as long as those desiring to learn the language can verify they entered the country legally. The government doesn't need to waste money on people who won't follow the law from the instant they enter the country.

On the contrary. If the government wants to, let's say, deport someone from the US because they entered illegally and for some absurd reason it refuses to deal in any language other than English(that being the proposed situation I'm addressing), then providing an English education to the accused(and proper compensation for the time spent on it), sufficient to understand what's going on and to defend themselves, is something the government very much does need to spend money on.