Romney VS Obama: The Megathread

[New Duck]

The thing I don't understand is why there are so many strange first names in politics.

I mean, what kind of idiot names their kid Mitt, or Newt, or Barack, for that matter!

[Divair]

The thing I don't understand is why there are so many strange first names in politics.

I mean, what kind of idiot names their kid Mitt, or Newt, or Barack, for that matter!

Mitt and Barack are normal names. Newt not so much.

[New Duck]

Well aren't you the optomist.

Yup.

I am a Ron Paul supporter, through and through. I've done the research I've checked the facts, he seems to be the man that has Americas best interests at heart even if his ideologies are very traditional, which in all honest isn't bad a thing.

Traditional yet progressive, where is mitt romney is pretty the same as bush, maybe even a little worse, and Obama eh..all smoke and mirrors, with my tax dollars LOL

Well, you are wrong about one thing. Obama does not spend money like a drunken sailor. Drunken sailors spend their own money!

[Socialist EU]

Right, time for a bit of a reality check on sourcing.

Is he infringing on our second ammendment right according to foxnews he tried to pass laws that did (look at previous post for source) no water no moon states foxnews is not a reliable source, and we cant be sure.

You mean this piece of trash you linked earlier expecting to be taken seriously? Fox News is not a reliable source. It's essentially an organ of the Republican party and unless it's some local report by a local branch, it tends to be tailored specifically to appeal to conservatives. It's infotainment, not a reliable source. But what really takes the cake is that it's an opinion piece. The person can lie all he wants; the network isn't going to check it for accuracy. And lie he did:

President Obama keeps pushing for gun control. "I just want you to know that we are working on [gun control]. We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar,” President Obama told Sarah Brady, the former president of the Brady Campaign, this past spring.

In a mailer, the National Rifle Association says that "Obama admits he’s coming for our guns, telling Sarah Brady, ‘We are working on (gun control), but under the radar.’ "

We found no evidence of an Obama admission anything like the NRA suggests.

Lengthier explanation can be found here.

Whilst Fox News is God dammed awful,(I say that with a British accent by the way) the Cartoon News Network,(CNN) is little better. MSNBC, okish, but a lot of news channels don't really tell you anything.

CNN is a shit ton better if you don't watch the American TV version. The international one is pretty decent and the website is top notch.

1. http://www.democracynow.org
2. http://rt.com/programs/alyona-show/

No. NO. RT is not a reliable source. It's pretty much Putin's version of Fox News.

1.And Democracy Now! is far better.
2. RT is not comparable to Fox News, that's very much a generalised oversimplification and if you took this to its logical conclusion you would have to suggest that Alyona is a spy on behalf of Putin,(don't laugh now ) Sounds like a good conspiracy theory to me. You clearly didn't read my latter comments to Milk.

[Onekawa-Nukanor]

If I was American, I know the good ole' Vermin Supreme would have my vote.

[Socialist EU]

If I was American, I know the good ole' Vermin Supreme would have my vote.

The American version of Britain's "Monster raving loony party" I think.

[Ruridova]

The thing I don't understand is why there are so many strange first names in politics.

I mean, what kind of idiot names their kid Mitt, or Newt, or Barack, for that matter!

Mitt's a middle name(although Willard is also a rather bizarre name), Newt is short for Newton, and Barack is a reasonably common African name.

[Esselman]

The thing I don't understand is why there are so many strange first names in politics.

I mean, what kind of idiot names their kid Mitt, or Newt, or Barack, for that matter!

Mitt and Barack are normal names. Newt not so much.

Lets back off of Newton Leroy Gingrich & Willard "Mitt" Romney!

[Ruridova]

Mitt and Barack are normal names. Newt not so much.

Lets back off of Newton Leroy Gingrich & Willard "Mitt" Romney!

Leroy? *snickers* Oh God, Newt's middle name is Leroy?

[Free Soviets]

Yup.

I am a Ron Paul supporter, through and through. I've done the research I've checked the facts, he seems to be the man that has Americas best interests at heart even if his ideologies are very traditional, which in all honest isn't bad a thing.

Traditional yet progressive, where is mitt romney is pretty the same as bush, maybe even a little worse, and Obama eh..all smoke and mirrors, with my tax dollars LOL

Well, you are wrong about one thing. Obama does not spend money like a drunken sailor. Drunken sailors spend their own money!

ha-ha. you see, it's funny because the government spends tax dollars! hilarious!!
gold star and a smiley face sticker, would read again.

[Ruridova]

ha-ha. you see, it's funny because the government spends tax dollars! hilarious!!
gold star and a smiley face sticker, would read again.

The government would spend tax dollars regardless of whether or nota Democrat was in office. A Republican would simply spend them on the military instead of social welfare and education.

[Free Soviets]

ha-ha. you see, it's funny because the government spends tax dollars! hilarious!!
gold star and a smiley face sticker, would read again.

The government would spend tax dollars regardless of whether or nota Democrat was in office. A Republican would simply spend them on the military instead of social welfare and education.

not true! if it was true, then the hilarious joke quoted above would fail horribly. and that can't happen. it just can't!

[Ruridova]

The government would spend tax dollars regardless of whether or nota Democrat was in office. A Republican would simply spend them on the military instead of social welfare and education.

not true! if it was true, then the hilarious joke quoted above would fail horribly. and that can't happen. it just can't!

It is true. Reagan and the Bushes usually spent the tax money on military programs, intervetions, and wars. Carter, Clinton, and Obama more frequently spent it on heathcare, welfare, and education. Hell, tax-and-spend Clinton left us with a surplus which was spent by George Walker "Supposedly a Fiscal Conservative" Bush.

[Free Soviets]

not true! if it was true, then the hilarious joke quoted above would fail horribly. and that can't happen. it just can't!

It is true. Reagan and the Bushes usually spent the tax money on military programs, intervetions, and wars. Carter, Clinton, and Obama more frequently spent it on heathcare, welfare, and education. Hell, tax-and-spend Clinton left us with a surplus which was spent by George Walker "Supposedly a Fiscal Conservative" Bush.

no. this seems wildly implausible. like, it would require all conservatives to be dupes or liars. but conservatives are the best people in the country - the real americans! clearly you just have your facts confused.

[Ruridova]

it would require all conservatives to be dupes or liars

A large number of them are, particualry the ones working at FOX or in politics.

[Ruridova]

either that or they're all just not too bright, which is also more than slightly plausible.

[Sigoynere]

It's a toss up between Vermin Supreme and Ron Paul.

[New Duck]

either that or they're all just not too bright, which is also more than slightly plausible.

Finally, Ruridova says something that isn't radically liberal. Good job, Rur! You are well on your way toward completing the twelve-step plan

[New Duck]

It is true. Reagan and the Bushes usually spent the tax money on military programs, intervetions, and wars. Carter, Clinton, and Obama more frequently spent it on heathcare, welfare, and education. Hell, tax-and-spend Clinton left us with a surplus which was spent by George Walker "Supposedly a Fiscal Conservative" Bush.

no. this seems wildly implausible. like, it would require all conservatives to be dupes or liars. but conservatives are the best people in the country - the real americans! clearly you just have your facts confused.

That about sums it up.

[Farnhamia]

either that or they're all just not too bright, which is also more than slightly plausible.

Finally, Ruridova says something that isn't radically liberal. Good job, Rur! You are well on your way toward completing the twelve-step plan

I think he's talking about conservatives being not too bright.

[Milks Empire]

either that or they're all just not too bright, which is also more than slightly plausible.

Finally, Ruridova says something that isn't radically liberal. Good job, Rur! You are well on your way toward completing the twelve-step plan

A radical liberal? In America?
...

[Ruridova]

either that or they're all just not too bright, which is also more than slightly plausible.

Finally, Ruridova says something that isn't radically liberal. Good job, Rur! You are well on your way toward completing the twelve-step plan

(I'm talking about conservatives, FYI.)

[Farnhamia]

Finally, Ruridova says something that isn't radically liberal. Good job, Rur! You are well on your way toward completing the twelve-step plan

(I'm talking about conservatives, FYI.)

Are you sure?

[Ruridova]

(I'm talking about conservatives, FYI.)

Are you sure?

So there are unintelligent liberals, yes, but that statement was directed at uber-far-right-conservative types.

[The Steel Magnolia]

no. this seems wildly implausible. like, it would require all conservatives to be dupes or liars. but conservatives are the best people in the country - the real americans! clearly you just have your facts confused.

That about sums it up.

That is one of the stupidest things I've heard on here. I'm impressed.