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Who do you support in the USA presidential election?

Mitt Romney
451
22%
Barack Obama
1114
54%
Gary Johnson
106
5%
Jill Stein
118
6%
Ron Paul
264
13%
 
Total votes : 2053

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Socialist Ecuador
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Postby Socialist Ecuador » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:48 pm

Ruridova wrote:
Hibernion wrote:Oh my gosh, Obama's actually in the lead after what he did to our country? :palm:

I don't really like any of the candidates anyway, so I went with Romney because at least he is Republican

Oh my gosh, you support the Republicans despite the fact that they stalled all of Obama's efforts to get stuff done, Ron Paul's opinions are insane, and Mitt Romney sold his soul to Bain?

Soul? Robots don't have souls.
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Confederacy of new eden
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Postby Confederacy of new eden » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:48 pm

obama, only because i dislike romney

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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:50 pm

No Water No Moon wrote:
Evraim wrote:Olbermann is essentially a left-wing O'Reilly who occasionally uses more vulgar language. I really don't think MSNBC or CNN really have much of a right to complain as a whole, though there are quite a few good journalists at both Networks.


They certainly have a right to complain, because Fox claims to be 'fair and balanced', whilst simultaneously actively pursuing an activist partisan agenda.

Example: MSNBC sponsors a series of 'free clinics' for poor Americans. Fox organizes Tea Party rallies.


Specific journalists pursue activist partisan agendas. The networks themselves are probably more interested in profits and expenditures. I would also like sources on this because I really don't keep up with either station.

No Water No Moon wrote:
Evraim wrote:Not always. There are a number of good reporters at FOX News, though they usually don't receive as much attention.


Shepard Smith

That's rather unflattering for him. I actually thought he came across as relatively moderate when I watched his program - and I rarely pay much heed to television media.
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Hibernion (Ancient)
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Postby Hibernion (Ancient) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:50 pm

I've lost pride in my nation it's too free
I am a right leaning centrist

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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:50 pm

Socialist Ecuador wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Oh my gosh, you support the Republicans despite the fact that they stalled all of Obama's efforts to get stuff done, Ron Paul's opinions are insane, and Mitt Romney sold his soul to Bain?

Soul? Robots don't have souls.

Calling Mitt a robot is an insult to robots. Robots think in terms of logic. Romney thinks in terms of political convenience.
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The Old Korean Empire
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Postby The Old Korean Empire » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:51 pm

Under Obama our constitution is falling apart. Say hello to the democrat version of Nixon
http://news.investors.com/article/61523 ... htm?p=full

If people could vote into office a man like Obama on the sole platform of hope and change they can do it again under his failed presidency.
All hail the power of democracy! :palm:

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Postby Divair » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:51 pm

Hibernion wrote:I've lost pride in my nation it's too free

USA? Free? :rofl:

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Ashmoria
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Postby Ashmoria » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:52 pm

No Water No Moon wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I though we settled this a couple pages ago.

BEARFIGHT


Putin is not a citizen.

hmmmmm who would win a knife fight between vladimir putin and teddy roosevelt?
whatever

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Free Soviets
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Postby Free Soviets » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:52 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Free Soviets wrote:lincoln was basically obama. big on concession and reconciliation until forced by the intransigence and stupidity of his opponents to start acting rightly.

give me the lovechild of u.s. grant and teddy roosevelt.

Roosevelt is everyone's favorite but why Grant?

he's our best superhero president, if you check out his war stories. plus, his fight for civil rights was utterly epic. total equal rights for everybody and using the full weight of the US military to crush the first klan. as frederick douglass said, "To Grant more than any other man the Negro owes his enfranchisement and the Indians a humane policy. In the matter of the protection of the freedman from violence his moral courage surpassed that of his party."
basically, he is our most underrated president and definitely one of the 5 best. the only reason people don't know this stuff is because of how successful the sons of slaver scum were at taking over the history books.

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Postby Free Soviets » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:53 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Roosevelt is everyone's favorite but why Grant?

^ This. He had a really bad habit of making really stupid appointments.

no worse than literally everybody else. fuck, lincoln picked johnson (our absolute worst president by far) to be his veep.

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Hibernion (Ancient)
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Postby Hibernion (Ancient) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:54 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
Putin is not a citizen.

hmmmmm who would win a knife fight between vladimir putin and teddy roosevelt?


Whoever doesn't get stabbed first
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My national anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiHDmyhE1A

DEFCON LEVEL:
5) Peace
4)Tensions
3) Arms Ready
2) War
1) Annihilation

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Postby Divair » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:55 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
Putin is not a citizen.

hmmmmm who would win a knife fight between vladimir putin and teddy roosevelt?

Bruce Lee.

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Milks Empire
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Postby Milks Empire » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:55 pm

Free Soviets wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:^ This. He had a really bad habit of making really stupid appointments.

no worse than literally everybody else. fuck, lincoln picked johnson (our absolute worst president by far) to be his veep.

I thought that was Genocidal Jackass - I mean, Andrew Jackson. And I don't think anyone saw that night at Ford's Theatre coming.

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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:55 pm

The Old Korean Empire wrote:Under Obama our constitution is falling apart. Say hello to the democrat version of Nixon
http://news.investors.com/article/61523 ... htm?p=full

If people could vote into office a man like Obama on the sole platform of hope and change they can do it again under his failed presidency.
All hail the power of democracy! :palm:

That means that the liberal Reagan is coming soon. You guys are fucking screwed.
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The Old Korean Empire
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Postby The Old Korean Empire » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:57 pm

Hibernion wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:hmmmmm who would win a knife fight between vladimir putin and teddy roosevelt?


Whoever doesn't get stabbed first

I was always taught
If you are going into a fist fight take a knife
If you are going into a knife fight take a gun

So who ever took a gun to the fight would naturally win

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Postby Ashmoria » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:57 pm

Evraim wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
False equivalency - the bias in Fox News is institutional, and considerably more pronounced than any of it's opposition.

Even MSNBC, which is arguably the nearest competitor - has 'liberal' commentators, rather than an actual institutional bias.

Olbermann is essentially a left-wing O'Reilly who occasionally uses more vulgar language. I really don't think MSNBC or CNN really have much of a right to complain as a whole, though there are quite a few good journalists at both Networks.

pssst

olbermann hasnt been on msnbc in more than a year and he got fired off current tv a few months ago.
whatever

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Ruridova
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Postby Ruridova » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:59 pm

Socialist Ecuador wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Oh my gosh, you support the Republicans despite the fact that they stalled all of Obama's efforts to get stuff done, Ron Paul's opinions are insane, and Mitt Romney sold his soul to Bain?

Soul? Robots don't have souls.

Touche.
Wamitoria wrote:
Socialist Ecuador wrote:Soul? Robots don't have souls.

Calling Mitt a robot is an insult to robots. Robots think in terms of logic. Romney thinks in terms of political convenience.

:rofl:
The Old Korean Empire wrote:Under Obama our constitution is falling apart.[citation needed] Say hello to the democrat version of Nixon[citation and dose of reality needed]
http://news.investors.com/article/61523 ... htm?p=full

If people could vote into office a man like Obama on the sole platform of hope and change they can do it again under his failed presidency.[citation and massive dose of reality needed]
All hail the power of democracy! :palm:

Hibernion wrote:I've lost pride in my nation it's too free[less bias and citation needed]

Fixed the last two. You guys owe me a lot of sources.
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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:00 pm

The Old Korean Empire wrote:
Hibernion wrote:
Whoever doesn't get stabbed first

I was always taught
If you are going into a fist fight take a knife
If you are going into a knife fight take a gun

So who ever took a gun to the fight would naturally win

So, sniper cat?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:01 pm

Divair wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:hmmmmm who would win a knife fight between vladimir putin and teddy roosevelt?

Bruce Lee.


Putin would win. The other two are dead.
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Postby Evraim » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:02 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
Putin is not a citizen.

hmmmmm who would win a knife fight between vladimir putin and teddy roosevelt?

Dick Cheney. That's two less rivals.

Ashmoria wrote:
Evraim wrote:Olbermann is essentially a left-wing O'Reilly who occasionally uses more vulgar language. I really don't think MSNBC or CNN really have much of a right to complain as a whole, though there are quite a few good journalists at both Networks.

pssst

olbermann hasnt been on msnbc in more than a year and he got fired off current tv a few months ago.

That's what living at a university without a television will do to your television knowledge... :palm:
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Postby Divair » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:03 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Divair wrote:Bruce Lee.


Putin would win. The other two are dead.

Nonsense. Bruce Lee is just hiding.

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Hibernion (Ancient)
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Postby Hibernion (Ancient) » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:04 pm

Divair wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Putin would win. The other two are dead.

Nonsense. Bruce Lee is just hiding.


Ted the turtle would win because turtles are EPIC.
I am a right leaning centrist

http://i49.tinypic.com/fenoll.jpg

My national anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiHDmyhE1A

DEFCON LEVEL:
5) Peace
4)Tensions
3) Arms Ready
2) War
1) Annihilation

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Postby No Water No Moon » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:05 pm

Evraim wrote:Specific journalists pursue activist partisan agendas. The networks themselves are probably more interested in profits and expenditures. I would also like sources on this because I really don't keep up with either station.


Examples:

Ed Schultz

Glenn Beck
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Postby Gravatrax » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:08 pm

Both are worthless
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Postby Ruridova » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:11 pm

Gravatrax wrote:Both are worthless

Well aren't you the optomist.
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