Romney VS Obama: The Megathread

[Cannot think of a name]

After seeing some videos on both Romney and Ryan, i can safely say i would not piss on either of them if they were on fire to save them. Evil bastards.

I wouldn't either, but largely because it seems like a really inefficient way to put out a fire and I probably wouldn't have to go at the time...

[Tmutarakhan]

He never kept his Birth Certificate on the DL. He showed the same legal form that everyone does, and hoped to not have to respond to the insane and illogical race-baiting accusations that he was hiding something on the "long form". The fact that people are still bringing this up following the release of the long form goes to show that he was right, in that it was useless to play to that crowd.

Ran into an honest to goodness birther the other day! He started spouting off all this bullshit, like the Kenyan grandmother saying she was there (something so old I actually forgot why it was bullshit)

It was bullshit because people who actually speak her language have listened to what she said, and she said nothing of the kind. The "translation" which claimed that she did was by a journalist noted for inventing all sorts of lies (he also talked to a George Obama from the family and then claimed that George is living in dire poverty and resents that Barack has not helped, causing George to sue him for libel since he's neither living in falling-down-tin-hut the story portrayed, nor is he the kind of person who would ever hit up a relative for money). Even before this came out, it was pointed out that it was bullshit since, among other impossible details, the birth was supposed to happen in a hospital in Mombasa which had not been built at the time (there was only one hospital in pre-independence Kenya, in Nairobi for whites only, in fact black people like the grandmother were never allowed inside-- the place would not even hire black janitors!)

[The Black Forrest]

Bullshit. There is no such thing.

Which wouldn't matter in the least:

What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?

Again, children born abroad to two US citizen parents were US citizens at birth, as long as one of the parents resided in the US at some point before the birth of the child.

When one parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national, the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child, with five of the years after the age of 14. An exception for people serving in the military was created by considering time spent outside the US on military duty as time spent in the US.

While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship, amendments since 1952 have eliminated these requirements.

Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen mother were US citizens if the mother was resident in the US for a period of one year prior to the birth of the child. Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen father acquired US citizenship only if legitimated before turning 21.

I believe she was "grandfathered" in as a citizen of Hawaii which became a state in 59. But don't quote me on that one as it's not one of my areas........

[The Crimson Realm]

Romney-Ryan 2012

[Wikkiwallana]

Romney-Ryan 2012

Why?

[Tmutarakhan]

Which wouldn't matter in the least:

I believe she was "grandfathered" in as a citizen of Hawaii which became a state in 59. But don't quote me on that one as it's not one of my areas........

She was from Kansas. The only reason for moving to Hawaii was that interracial marriages were accepted there.

[Wikkiwallana]

I believe she was "grandfathered" in as a citizen of Hawaii which became a state in 59. But don't quote me on that one as it's not one of my areas........

She was from Kansas. The only reason for moving to Hawaii was that interracial marriages were accepted there.

No, her family moved there while she was a minor.

[Tmutarakhan]

She was from Kansas. The only reason for moving to Hawaii was that interracial marriages were accepted there.

No, her family moved there while she was a minor.

My bad. But she only moved there as a college student, and after Hawaii was a state.

[Ashmoria]

well it seems that paul ryan has quite the distinguished legislative career.

in addition to voting for every bit of the budget busting bush agenda he has gotten 2 bills of his own passed in his 13 years in congress. 2. thats the total. 2.

one named the janesville post office and one changed the excise tax on arrows.

the man is a giant.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/1 ... f=politics

[Northern Dominus]

well it seems that paul ryan has quite the distinguished legislative career.

in addition to voting for every bit of the budget busting bush agenda he has gotten 2 bills of his own passed in his 13 years in congress. 2. thats the total. 2.

one named the janesville post office and one changed the excise tax on arrows.

the man is a giant.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/1 ... f=politics

Oh, lovely.

That and apparently Paul Ryan loves getting into every woman's uterus

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... women.html

[Bodegraven]

well it seems that paul ryan has quite the distinguished legislative career.

in addition to voting for every bit of the budget busting bush agenda he has gotten 2 bills of his own passed in his 13 years in congress. 2. thats the total. 2.

one named the janesville post office and one changed the excise tax on arrows.

the man is a giant.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/1 ... f=politics

Oh, lovely.

That and apparently Paul Ryan loves getting into every woman's uterus

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... women.html

If the Democrats use this to their advantage, the Republicans will lose the senior vote because of the Ryan plan and they will also lose the female vote by more than usual because of believing abortion should be illegal (even with rape).

Oh, and when you sponsor the Sanctity of Human Life Act (which got rejected even in the most conservative places like Missouri), you can even lose some of the conservatives vote by being too extreme. Ryan was even better news for Obama than I suspected.

[Ashmoria]

well it seems that paul ryan has quite the distinguished legislative career.

in addition to voting for every bit of the budget busting bush agenda he has gotten 2 bills of his own passed in his 13 years in congress. 2. thats the total. 2.

one named the janesville post office and one changed the excise tax on arrows.

the man is a giant.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/1 ... f=politics

Oh, lovely.

That and apparently Paul Ryan loves getting into every woman's uterus

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... women.html

thats why we need small government

so its small enough to climb up into your vagina and take a picture.

[Revolutopia]

well it seems that paul ryan has quite the distinguished legislative career.

in addition to voting for every bit of the budget busting bush agenda he has gotten 2 bills of his own passed in his 13 years in congress. 2. thats the total. 2.

one named the janesville post office and one changed the excise tax on arrows.

the man is a giant.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/1 ... f=politics

Oh, lovely.

That and apparently Paul Ryan loves getting into every woman's uterus

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... women.html

That is interesting saying how his intellectual idol had this to say about abortion..

“Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?”

I think Obama should help Ryan out by airing a number of ads in the deep South quoting this wonderful quote, and others by his idol talking about her interesting views on Christianity while commentating on how she was Ryan's inspiration for entering public service(also who enters Public service after reading her works?).

As I am sure all those Conservative Fundamentalist Christians who are already uncomfortable supporting a Mormon will be overjoyed when hearing about the religious views of Romney's VP's philosophical idol.

[The Black Forrest]

Oh, lovely.

That and apparently Paul Ryan loves getting into every woman's uterus

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... women.html

That is interesting saying how his intellectual idol had this to say about abortion..

“Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?”

I think Obama should help Ryan out by airing a number of ads in the deep South quoting this wonderful quote, and others by his idol talking about her interesting views on Christianity while commentating on how she was Ryan's inspiration for entering public service(also who enters Public service after reading her works?).

As I am sure all those Conservative Fundamentalist Christians who are already uncomfortable supporting a Mormon will be overjoyed when hearing about the religious views of Romney's VP's philosophical idol.

Well? I think said groups will overlook the Morman part as they detest the President.

The abortion bit might not work as they will rush out and have him announce he doesn't follow Rand. Even though his "budget" says otherwise......

[The Crimson Realm]

Romney-Ryan 2012

Why?

Because I believe they will do a better job than Obama has done.

[Dilange]

Why?

Because I believe they will do a better job than Obama has done.

How so?

[The Crimson Realm]

Because I believe they will do a better job than Obama has done.

How so?

You guys would make awesome psychiatrists lol. Well, I support Romney simply because he is not Obama, Romney's more socially conservative than Obama so yippy and all that. From what I understand about Paul Ryan; however, his own ideas are fiscally stunning and I believe that, if anyone is going to have an idea (at this point) that would ease the national debt and assist America back to its feet, it will be Ryan.

[Wamitoria]

How so?

You guys would make awesome psychiatrists lol. Well, I support Romney simply because he is not Obama, Romney's more socially conservative than Obama so yippy and all that. From what I understand about Paul Ryan; however, his own ideas are fiscally stunning and I believe that, if anyone is going to have an idea (at this point) that would ease the national debt and assist America back to its feet, it will be Ryan.

Paul Ryan's budget doesn't actually balance the national budget until 2040, and requires that we add at least $6 trillion to our national debt. And that's assuming that revenue increases to the level it was it in 2007 immediately after the budget is passed.

[The Nuclear Fist]

You guys would make awesome psychiatrists lol. Well, I support Romney simply because he is not Obama, Romney's more socially conservative than Obama so yippy and all that. From what I understand about Paul Ryan; however, his own ideas are fiscally stunning and I believe that, if anyone is going to have an idea (at this point) that would ease the national debt and assist America back to its feet, it will be Ryan.

Paul Ryan's plan, if implemented, would increase the US deficit by 300 billion, all the while giving the rich more tax cuts and gutting the social safety net, along with no decrease in military spending.

There are a lot of ways to describe the plan, none of them good. And social conservatism is a cancerous plague upon humanity.

[Divair]

Because I believe they will do a better job than Obama has done.

How so?

Because he's a conservative.

[Northern Dominus]

Oh, lovely.

That and apparently Paul Ryan loves getting into every woman's uterus

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... women.html

That is interesting saying how his intellectual idol had this to say about abortion..

“Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?”

I think Obama should help Ryan out by airing a number of ads in the deep South quoting this wonderful quote, and others by his idol talking about her interesting views on Christianity while commentating on how she was Ryan's inspiration for entering public service(also who enters Public service after reading her works?).

As I am sure all those Conservative Fundamentalist Christians who are already uncomfortable supporting a Mormon will be overjoyed when hearing about the religious views of Romney's VP's philosophical idol.

You know what, that's a fantastic idea!

Quick, mobilize the NSG PAC!

At least he's more lenient to LGBT citizens than the women's uteri, he just ignores the whole thing about a minority not having civil rights:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelang ... 68962.html

[Dilange]

Why?

Because I believe they will do a better job than Obama has done.

How so?

[The Crimson Realm]

You guys would make awesome psychiatrists lol. Well, I support Romney simply because he is not Obama, Romney's more socially conservative than Obama so yippy and all that. From what I understand about Paul Ryan; however, his own ideas are fiscally stunning and I believe that, if anyone is going to have an idea (at this point) that would ease the national debt and assist America back to its feet, it will be Ryan.

Paul Ryan's budget doesn't actually balance the national budget until 2040, and requires that we add at least $6 trillion to our national debt. And that's assuming that revenue increases to the level it was it in 2007 immediately after the budget is passed.

Is that the 2011 version, the 2012 version, or are you just towing the leftist line?

You guys would make awesome psychiatrists lol. Well, I support Romney simply because he is not Obama, Romney's more socially conservative than Obama so yippy and all that. From what I understand about Paul Ryan; however, his own ideas are fiscally stunning and I believe that, if anyone is going to have an idea (at this point) that would ease the national debt and assist America back to its feet, it will be Ryan.

Paul Ryan's plan, if implemented, would increase the US deficit by 300 billion, all the while giving the rich more tax cuts and gutting the social safety net, along with no decrease in military spending.

There are a lot of ways to describe the plan, none of them good. And social conservatism is a cancerous plague upon humanity.

Same statement as above.

How so?

Because he's a conservative.

And this lol

[Divair]

And social conservatism is a cancerous plague upon humanity.

That's a bit generous.

[The Black Forrest]

Paul Ryan's budget doesn't actually balance the national budget until 2040, and requires that we add at least $6 trillion to our national debt. And that's assuming that revenue increases to the level it was it in 2007 immediately after the budget is passed.

Is that the 2011 version, the 2012 version, or are you just towing the leftist line?

Paul Ryan's plan, if implemented, would increase the US deficit by 300 billion, all the while giving the rich more tax cuts and gutting the social safety net, along with no decrease in military spending.

There are a lot of ways to describe the plan, none of them good. And social conservatism is a cancerous plague upon humanity.

Same statement as above.

Because he's a conservative.

And this lol

So do you have an argument rather then "Derp leftist derp"

So how exactly does Ryan's budget solve anything?