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Who do you support in the USA presidential election?

Mitt Romney
451
22%
Barack Obama
1114
54%
Gary Johnson
106
5%
Jill Stein
118
6%
Ron Paul
264
13%
 
Total votes : 2053

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Nordengrund
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Postby Nordengrund » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:25 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:I'm no longer pulling for Romney, I am now rooting for Ron Paul.


He's not even going to be on the ballot...


Yeah, but I agree with his beliefs more than Romney's and Obama's.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:26 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
He's not even going to be on the ballot...


Yeah, but I agree with his beliefs more than Romney's and Obama's.

You agree that black people don't deserve the right to be equal or have the same rights a white people?
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:27 pm

Nordengrund wrote:I'm no longer pulling for Romney, I am now rooting for Ron Paul.

Thank you for supporting Barack Obama.
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Postby Silent Majority » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:28 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
He's not even going to be on the ballot...

Not to mention he's racist, homophobic, and more.


That too, but remember we're talking to someone who's supportive of the bloody constitution party...
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Postby New Chalcedon » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:29 pm

Apparently, it's news to Republicans: there are less people employed in government than when Obama took office.

I'll quote Dr. Krugman on the relevant part of the interview, to show just how badly Republican obstruction has been hurting America:
Dr. Paul Krugman wrote:If government employment had grown as fast under Obama as it did under Bush, we’d have a million and a half more people employed right now — directly.


Note that Krugman is explicitly not including any follow-one effects that would result from 1.5 million more salaries being circulated, 1.5 million people worth of demand being created....

Surely, to anyone interested in the facts, the verdict is in: The Republican Party, by deliberately obstructing President Obama for the sole sake of partisan gain, is the single biggest reason the economy has not recovered fully.

Which is why this is so, so very appropriate. Indeed, the entire Republican Party - from RNC Chief Michael Steele (later Reince Priebus) down - has so consistently acted in such a childish fashion since Obama's inauguration, and had so thoroughly abandoned all conservative principle prior to that, that they need to have their toys taken away from them like any other spoilt child. Because their "toys" aren't "toys". They're people, and the GOP's casual cruelty - like a kid destroying his toys so he doesn't have to share them - is hurting real people, not bits of plastic and plush cushioning.

The obstreporous, lying, totalitarian ("Our way or nothing!"), generally selfish and rude behaviour would be annoying in a kid. In politicians, it's damned close to treason.
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Postby Nordengrund » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:31 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
Yeah, but I agree with his beliefs more than Romney's and Obama's.

You agree that black people don't deserve the right to be equal or have the same rights a white people?


That is Romney, he is a Mormon and Mormons discriminate blacks.

I mainly agree on Ron Paul's views on abortion, currency, and civil rights
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Postby Khadgar » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:34 pm

New Chalcedon wrote:Apparently, it's news to Republicans: there are less people employed in government than when Obama took office.

I'll quote Dr. Krugman on the relevant part of the interview, to show just how badly Republican obstruction has been hurting America:
Dr. Paul Krugman wrote:If government employment had grown as fast under Obama as it did under Bush, we’d have a million and a half more people employed right now — directly.


Note that Krugman is explicitly not including any follow-one effects that would result from 1.5 million more salaries being circulated, 1.5 million people worth of demand being created....

Surely, to anyone interested in the facts, the verdict is in: The Republican Party, by deliberately obstructing President Obama for the sole sake of partisan gain, is the single biggest reason the economy has not recovered fully.

Which is why this is so, so very appropriate. Indeed, the entire Republican Party - from RNC Chief Michael Steele (later Reince Priebus) down - has so consistently acted in such a childish fashion since Obama's inauguration, and had so thoroughly abandoned all conservative principle prior to that, that they need to have their toys taken away from them like any other spoilt child. Because their "toys" aren't "toys". They're people, and the GOP's casual cruelty - like a kid destroying his toys so he doesn't have to share them - is hurting real people, not bits of plastic and plush cushioning.

The obstreporous, lying, totalitarian ("Our way or nothing!"), generally selfish and rude behaviour would be annoying in a kid. In politicians, it's damned close to treason.


Well look at the most recent jobs numbers. It would have been 103,000 gained, except of course the government laid off 7,000 employees. Dear Republicans, the Democrats are not "Big Government™" YOU ARE.

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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:35 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
He's not even going to be on the ballot...

Not to mention he's racist, homophobic, and more.

You're trying to reason with a conservative.

Please, don't waste your energy.

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Postby Swith Witherward » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:37 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
That is Romney, he is a Mormon and Mormons discriminate blacks.


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Postby New Chalcedon » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:38 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:You agree that black people don't deserve the right to be equal or have the same rights a white people?


That is Romney, he is a Mormon and Mormons discriminate blacks.

I mainly agree on Ron Paul's views on abortion, currency, and civil rights


So no abortion, gold coins and perpetual deflation and no civil rights? Fair enough.

Also, don't know if you've heard - but Ron Paul's not going to be on the ballot. The Libertarian candidate for President is former Governor Gary Johnson (R-NM), who dropped out of the Republican primaries once it was clear how batshit that particular circus was. Or if he's not right-wing enough for you, there's Constitution Party candidate Virgil Goode, a former Congressman from Virginia (Democratic, then Independent, then Republican).

Voting for either of those may mean something: if nothing else, it will show an increased level of support for their principles, which you claim to share. Voting for Ron Paul? That's like voting for Mickey Mouse.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:48 pm

New Chalcedon wrote:Voting for Ron Paul? That's like voting for Mickey Mouse.

Except Mickey Mouse winning the presidency is more likely than Ron Paul.
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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:49 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:Voting for Ron Paul? That's like voting for Mickey Mouse.

Except Mickey Mouse winning the presidency is more likely than Ron Paul.

He'd also be a far better president.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:50 pm

New Chalcedon wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
That is Romney, he is a Mormon and Mormons discriminate blacks.

I mainly agree on Ron Paul's views on abortion, currency, and civil rights


So no abortion, gold coins and perpetual deflation and no civil rights? Fair enough.

Also, don't know if you've heard - but Ron Paul's not going to be on the ballot. The Libertarian candidate for President is former Governor Gary Johnson (R-NM), who dropped out of the Republican primaries once it was clear how batshit that particular circus was. Or if he's not right-wing enough for you, there's Constitution Party candidate Virgil Goode, a former Congressman from Virginia (Democratic, then Independent, then Republican).

Voting for either of those may mean something: if nothing else, it will show an increased level of support for their principles, which you claim to share. Voting for Ron Paul? That's like voting for Mickey Mouse.


We have repeatedly told him that if he wants to be a member of the constitution party to vote Virgil Goode...
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Postby Felix Terra » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:51 pm

Divair wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Except Mickey Mouse winning the presidency is more likely than Ron Paul.

He'd also be a far better president.

Well, he IS the only one with a good education plan. Have them watch Mickey Mouse Clubhouse!
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Postby Khadgar » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:55 pm



He'd held his earlier position too long. He had to flip flop eventually, again.

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Postby Williamson » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:03 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:Voting for Ron Paul? That's like voting for Mickey Mouse.

Except Mickey Mouse winning the presidency is more likely than Ron Paul.

why would he even run. Disney is more powerfull than the goverment anyway.

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Postby Norstal » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:04 pm

Khadgar wrote:


He'd held his earlier position too long. He had to flip flop eventually, again.

WOLOLO.

Nordengrund wrote:
That is Romney, he is a Mormon and Mormons discriminate blacks.

I mainly agree on Ron Paul's views on abortion, currency, and civil rights

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:07 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:You agree that black people don't deserve the right to be equal or have the same rights a white people?


That is Romney, he is a Mormon and Mormons discriminate blacks.

I mainly agree on Ron Paul's views on abortion, currency, and civil rights


No.

Ron Paul wrote:The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over the hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country. The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society. The federal government has no legitimate authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please and to form (or not form) contracts with terms mutually agreeable to all parties. The rights of all private property owners, even those whose actions decent people find abhorrent, must be respected if we are to maintain a free society.


Basically: Fuck black people, private businesses should be able to do whatever they want.
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Postby Norstal » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:11 pm

Mavorpen wrote:Basically: Fuck black people, private businesses should be able to do whatever they want.

I bet Nordengrund is one of those people who say they're for free, unrestricted enterprise, but goes apeshit when someone (like me) buys a bankrupt church or cathedral and convert it into a strip club.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:15 pm

Norstal wrote:I bet Nordengrund is one of those people who say they're for free, unrestricted enterprise, but goes apeshit when someone (like me) buys a bankrupt church or cathedral and convert it into a strip club.

As long as it isn't a Muslim community centre.
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Postby Nordengrund » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:21 pm

Norstal wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Basically: Fuck black people, private businesses should be able to do whatever they want.

I bet Nordengrund is one of those people who say they're for free, unrestricted enterprise, but goes apeshit when someone (like me) buys a bankrupt church or cathedral and convert it into a strip club.


Actually, I wouldn't care if you did that.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:55 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Norstal wrote:I bet Nordengrund is one of those people who say they're for free, unrestricted enterprise, but goes apeshit when someone (like me) buys a bankrupt church or cathedral and convert it into a strip club.


Actually, I wouldn't care if you did that.


so what do you think of the Republican plank on Porn.
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Postby Nordengrund » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:55 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
Actually, I wouldn't care if you did that.


so what do you think of the Republican plank on Porn.


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Postby The Realm of God » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:58 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:You agree that black people don't deserve the right to be equal or have the same rights a white people?


That is Romney, he is a Mormon and Mormons discriminate blacks.

I mainly agree on Ron Paul's views on abortion, currency, and civil rights


All X are Y when Y equals X.

For example all Christians are Baptists, I am Orthodox so I am not Baptist so I am not Christian. Doesn't make any sense, does it?

Anyway the latest prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has revised its position.
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