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Who do you support in the USA presidential election?

Mitt Romney
451
22%
Barack Obama
1114
54%
Gary Johnson
106
5%
Jill Stein
118
6%
Ron Paul
264
13%
 
Total votes : 2053

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:14 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The part in red is far right. The money thing I have no clue.

I support protectionism.
I support higher taxes on the rich.
I belive in nationalisation.
I dont belive globalisation is good.
I dont belive in free trade.

The following are pretty left wing to me.

What in the...
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Postby Wamitoria » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:18 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The part in red is far right. The money thing I have no clue.

I support protectionism.
I support higher taxes on the rich.
I belive in nationalisation.
I dont belive globalisation is good.
I dont belive in free trade.

The following are pretty left wing to me.

Protectionism is nationalist. Nationalism can be left-wing or right-wing depending upon how you do it.

Same with anti-globalization and anti-free trade views.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:20 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I support protectionism.
I support higher taxes on the rich.
I belive in nationalisation.
I dont belive globalisation is good.
I dont belive in free trade.

The following are pretty left wing to me.

Protectionism is nationalist. Nationalism can be left-wing or right-wing depending upon how you do it.

Same with anti-globalization and anti-free trade views.

Well unless their site has had issues every time I have taken the test, my economic compass is far left wing. Isnt state capitalism?
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Postby Wamitoria » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:41 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:Protectionism is nationalist. Nationalism can be left-wing or right-wing depending upon how you do it.

Same with anti-globalization and anti-free trade views.

Well unless their site has had issues every time I have taken the test, my economic compass is far left wing. Isnt state capitalism?

A test can't gauge the nuances of every issue. For instance, left-wing nationalists oppose free trade because they believe it's a neo-colonial tool designed to destroy local industry. Right-wing nationalists oppose free trade because they see it as an attempt by foreign entities to gain an economic foothold and slowly take over a country from within.

Motivations for views can determine whether they count towards one being right-wing or left-wing.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:42 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Well unless their site has had issues every time I have taken the test, my economic compass is far left wing. Isnt state capitalism?

A test can't gauge the nuances of every issue. For instance, left-wing nationalists oppose free trade because they believe it's a neo-colonial tool designed to destroy local industry. Right-wing nationalists oppose free trade because they see it as an attempt by foreign entities to gain an economic foothold and slowly take over a country from within.

Motivations for views can determine whether they count towards one being right-wing or left-wing.

If you dont think Political Compass is accurate, I would take another test of your choosing if you wanted.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:47 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:If you dont think Political Compass is accurate, I would take another test of your choosing if you wanted.

If you're trying to determine what singular views are right-wing or left-wing, really a test isn't the thing you're looking for.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:48 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:If you dont think Political Compass is accurate, I would take another test of your choosing if you wanted.

If you're trying to determine what singular views are right-wing or left-wing, really a test isn't the thing you're looking for.

Well since he doesnt think my test is accurate...
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Postby TaQud » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:49 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:If you're trying to determine what singular views are right-wing or left-wing, really a test isn't the thing you're looking for.

Well since he doesnt think my test is accurate...

How about this?
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Postby Wamitoria » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:51 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:If you're trying to determine what singular views are right-wing or left-wing, really a test isn't the thing you're looking for.

Well since he doesnt think my test is accurate...

I'm not saying it isn't accurate. I totally understand the fact that you are opposed to free markets. I just question whether or not it's because you're a leftist. Which you aren't, going by comments you have made before.

That being said, we're off topic. TaQud got us back on topic.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:55 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Well since he doesnt think my test is accurate...

I'm not saying it isn't accurate. I totally understand the fact that you are opposed to free markets. I just question whether or not it's because you're a leftist. Which you aren't, going by comments you have made before.

That being said, we're off topic. TaQud got us back on topic.

Mkay.
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Postby TaQud » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:55 pm

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Postby Swith Witherward » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:57 pm


I can't wait for November to be over.
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Postby TaQud » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:58 pm

Swith Witherward wrote:

I can't wait for November to be over.

yeah but the ads make em feel important. Like I actually mean something to the gov't...
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:59 pm


I thought he was pulling his ads from Ohio.
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Postby TaQud » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:01 pm

Farnhamia wrote:

I thought he was pulling his ads from Ohio.

Hard to tell which candidate needs this more...
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:03 pm

http://www.isidewith.com/results/99451643
How much I support the US candidates. I agree with Romney 92% of the time. That is a surprise about how much I agree with him.
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Postby Jocabia » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:09 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:http://www.isidewith.com/results/99451643
How much I support the US candidates. I agree with Romney 92% of the time. That is a surprise about how much I agree with him.

Everyone agrees with him on almost every topic. They also disagree with him on almost every topic. That's because he's held pretty much every position there is.
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Postby TaQud » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:11 pm

Jocabia wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:http://www.isidewith.com/results/99451643
How much I support the US candidates. I agree with Romney 92% of the time. That is a surprise about how much I agree with him.

Everyone agrees with him on almost every topic. They also disagree with him on almost every topic. That's because he's held pretty much every position there is.

i only side with 23% of Romney :meh: And 82% Gary Johnson)
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Postby Wamitoria » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:16 pm

Farnhamia wrote:

I thought he was pulling his ads from Ohio.

He was, that's because he's launching a whole new set very reminiscent of McCain's 'throw everything and hope something sticks' style of campaign advertising, albeit with a bit more money backing it up. Unfortunately for Romney, he's having to spend most of the cash he's taking in on campaign organization because he didn't bother during the primaries.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:41 pm


Wow. That's the problem with first-past-the-post electoral systems. Too much focus on certain areas and almost none on others.
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Postby The Humanist Federation » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:43 pm

Let's lighten up the election: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5i3F0YnkP0

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Postby Chadacian » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:49 pm

Barack Obama!

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Postby TaQud » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:50 pm

Geilinor wrote:

Wow. That's the problem with first-past-the-post electoral systems. Too much focus on certain areas and almost none on others.

well some states like Wyoming (or the Northwestern part of "Jesus land") are less important to focus on then Ohio or Colorado or other swing states
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Postby Death Metal » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:05 pm

Jon Stewart nails it again.

And Wamitoria posts that he forgot it again in 3, 2, 1....
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Postby Wamitoria » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:37 pm

Death Metal wrote:Jon Stewart nails it again.

And Wamitoria posts that he forgot it again in 3, 2, 1....

FUUUUUU-
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