Romney VS Obama: The Megathread

[Minnysota]

Amusingly, mine previous post was chock full of logic, facts, and empirical evidence and sources.

IN contrast, yours is the very definition of an argument devoid of fact, logic, substance, intelligence, and empirical evidence.

Your just the only one who cant see the ridiculous contradiction in your absurd post.

I'm not really putting up an argument. I'm just saying that yours is wrong, and the others have disproved your claims countless times. I don't need to put up an argument to defeat yours, considering it has already been defeated.

[Death Metal]

Doesn't this pretty much describe your entire argument?

Amusingly, mine previous post was chock full of logic, facts, and empirical evidence and sources.

Well, if you count the people you quoted.

[Meroplis]

Obama was not a good president. All I think is we need a new one,and fast!

[The UK in Exile]

Doesn't this pretty much describe your entire argument?

Amusingly, mine previous post was chock full of logic, facts, and empirical evidence and sources.

IN contrast, yours is the very definition of an argument devoid of fact, logic, substance, intelligence, and empirical evidence.

Your just the only one who cant see the ridiculous contradiction in your absurd post.

its like the Emperors new threads.

[Death Metal]

Obama was not a good president. All I think is we need a new one,and fast!

Not when every other possible choice is a thousand times, or in the case of Paul and Johnson, a million times worse.

[Minnysota]

Obama was not a good president. All I think is we need a new one,and fast!

How has he been a bad president?

[Wikkiwallana]

Obama was not a good president. All I think is we need a new one,and fast!

What is wrong with him? Be as specific as you can.

[Evraim]

Obama was not a good president. All I think is we need a new one,and fast!

Not when every other possible choice is a thousand times, or in the case of Paul and Johnson, a million times worse.

I'm still curious as to why you have such a burning hatred for the Right Libertarian-lite candidates. May I ask how you feel about the Socialist and Green Parties?

[Death Metal]

Obama was not a good president. All I think is we need a new one,and fast!

How has he been a bad president?

I predict the response will be an ill-informed diatribe about socialism, NDAA 2011, and how he hates guns; despite the reality that he's a capitalist, the NDAA 2011 added no new federal powers, and he's the most pro-gun president in years.

[Minnysota]

I predict the response will be an ill-informed diatribe about socialism, NDAA 2011, and how he hates guns; despite the reality that he's a capitalist, the NDAA 2011 added no new federal powers, and he's the most pro-gun president in years.

I will give you a million cookies if he brings up those points.

[Death Metal]

Not when every other possible choice is a thousand times, or in the case of Paul and Johnson, a million times worse.

I'm still curious as to why you have such a burning hatred for the Right Libertarian-lite candidates. May I ask how you feel about the Socialist and Green Parties?

They suck too, but with lesser degrees of suck.

It also helps that they don't have armies of militants who gleefully spread misinformation.

Not that they don't do that mind, just not as much and as gleefully.

[Unified Provinces]

Death Metal: How do you feel about social democracy?

[Evraim]

I'm still curious as to why you have such a burning hatred for the Right Libertarian-lite candidates. May I ask how you feel about the Socialist and Green Parties?

They suck too, but with lesser degrees of suck.

It also helps that they don't have armies of militants who gleefully spread misinformation.

Not that they don't do that mind, just not as much and as gleefully.

I'm rather certain that Romney and Obama also have armies of militants gleefully spreading misinformation - especially based on the recent attack ads and general direction of the campaigns. I've never even seen a commerical in support of Johnson, Stein, or Alexander, but then I really don't look that hard because I'm not interested in supporting their political views.

[Revolutopia]

I've never even seen a commerical in support of Johnson, Stein, or Alexander, but then I really don't look that hard because I'm not interested in supporting their political views.

Probably, because one's campaign needs money/supporters before they can air commercials.

[Death Metal]

Death Metal: How do you feel about social democracy?

Good ideas, but need to work on downplaying the ties to more socialist groups if they're ever going to be properly recognized. They're just not a feasible alternative, if only due to electability.

[Death Metal]

They suck too, but with lesser degrees of suck.

It also helps that they don't have armies of militants who gleefully spread misinformation.

Not that they don't do that mind, just not as much and as gleefully.

I'm rather certain that Romney and Obama also have armies of militants gleefully spreading misinformation - especially based on the recent attack ads and general direction of the campaigns. I've never even seen a commerical in support of Johnson, Stein, or Alexander, but then I really don't look that hard because I'm not interested in supporting their political views.

Commercials tend to cost a lot of money. Third partiers tend to use other methods, like leafleting and leaving stickers wherever they may be stuck (There's a couple Perot 96s still around in Hialeah last I checked).

[Evraim]

I've never even seen a commerical in support of Johnson, Stein, or Alexander, but then I really don't look that hard because I'm not interested in supporting their political views.

Probably, because one's campaign needs money/supporters before they can air commercials.

Hey now!

[Revolutopia]

Probably, because one's campaign needs money/supporters before they can air commercials.

Hey now!

To be fair, I am a registered Independent and if I lived in a state with a strong independent left party(such as Vermont and their Progressive Party) I would likely register with said party. However, I have to agree with Farn third parties need to stop shooting for the moon and slowly build up.

[Evraim]

Hey now!

To be fair, I am a registered Independent and if I lived in a state with a strong independent left party(such as Vermont and their Progressive Party) I would likely register with said party. However, I have to agree with Farn third parties need to stop shooting for the moon and slowly build up.

I concur. It's rather humorous that the so-called "radical" political organizations may very well be compelled to operate in a more "conservative/moderate" fashion in order to procure any significant national support whatsoever.

[Revolutopia]

To be fair, I am a registered Independent and if I lived in a state with a strong independent left party(such as Vermont and their Progressive Party) I would likely register with said party. However, I have to agree with Farn third parties need to stop shooting for the moon and slowly build up.

I concur. It's rather humorous that the so-called "radical" political organizations may very well be compelled to operate in a more "conservative/moderate" fashion in order to procure any significant national support whatsoever.

The thing is I don't even think these Third Parties need to go full national, instead you can have stuff like Vermont Progressive Party or the Minnesota Independence Party have been able to have influence within their states and achieve respectable achievements. The Federal Government is not the only place where groups can have an influence, but sadly it seems that is the only focus for groups like the Green, Libertarian, and Constitutional parties when they are attempting to achieve their goals.

[Death Metal]

The Federal Government is not the only place where groups can have an influence, but sadly it seems that is the only focus for groups like the Green, Libertarian, and Constitutional parties when they are attempting to achieve their goals.

Pretty much this. Problem is, for their influence to grow to where they can actually contribute would take many election cycles. Instead, they GOTS TO HAVE THEIR AGENDA NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW. And they're surprised that they get ignored.

[Alien Space Bats]

Romney will win, I've done the electoral calculations, run over 30 possible scenarios based on the most recent poll data.

You want to link to an electoral map and the polling data to support that position? Because every analysis I've seen shows Obama leading in the Electoral College even as the two candidates pull even in the popular vote.

[Avenio]

Romney will win, I've done the electoral calculations, run over 30 possible scenarios based on the most recent poll data.

You want to link to an electoral map and the polling data to support that position? Because every analysis I've seen shows Obama leading in the Electoral College even as the two candidates pull even in the popular vote.

I'd be interested in seeing the models he's using as well; I would imagine it would take a fair bit of programming talent to create that sophisticated of software.

[Wewak]

Mitt Romney's campaign tactics caused differences in international diplomatic relations especially when he started to plot his propaganda using religious arguments on discriminations on same sex marriages. Romney was really outspoken and claims to be against same sex hoping that he would lure the support of religion to gain advantage of power. Romney's propaganda nearly sparked another international incident on religious wars and this not only affected member nation's choices of international diplomatic relations but a very stupid barbaric tactic for drawing standards between peaceful societies. I totally have no confidence in Mitt Romney for failing to embrace the general notions of Humanity. Bara notions of humanity the welfare of which should be the paramount concern for every governments. I support policies that would practically speaking work in society for the good of everyone irregardless of good of all citizens and their governments irregardless of race, color, religion or standards in society. Vote for Obama for America and for democracy where all men are equal to participate an AmeAmerica

[Divair]

Death Metal: How do you feel about social democracy?

Good ideas, but need to work on downplaying the ties to more socialist groups if they're ever going to be properly recognized. They're just not a feasible alternative, if only due to electability.

In the US, you mean?