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Buray
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Free healthcare.

Postby Buray » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:12 pm

Should we start giving the people free health care?
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Postby Yewhohohopia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:13 pm

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:13 pm

It's not a matter of 'free' but how we manage those costs.
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Blaist Blaland
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Postby Blaist Blaland » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:14 pm

Healthcare should be public, yes. It should be a basic human right.

Well here in Denmark healthcare has been pretty much public for a long time...
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Postby Capitalist Running Dogs » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:14 pm

Buray wrote:Should we start giving the people free health care?


No. For the main reason that free isn't fucking free.
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Postby Khadgar » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:15 pm

There shouldn't be an industry to profit off the misery of others. Healthcare should be a basic right.
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Postby Capitalist Running Dogs » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:18 pm

Khadgar wrote:There shouldn't be an industry to profit off the misery of others. Healthcare should be a basic right.


Healthcare is not a right.
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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:19 pm

Capitalist Running Dogs wrote:
Khadgar wrote:There shouldn't be an industry to profit off the misery of others. Healthcare should be a basic right.


Healthcare is not a right.


It is if a government grants it, as it should.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:19 pm

Ah yeah, sure why not?
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Postby Khadgar » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:19 pm

Capitalist Running Dogs wrote:
Khadgar wrote:There shouldn't be an industry to profit off the misery of others. Healthcare should be a basic right.


Healthcare is not a right.


Your abhorrent ideology doesn't interest me.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:20 pm

Capitalist Running Dogs wrote:
Khadgar wrote:There shouldn't be an industry to profit off the misery of others. Healthcare should be a basic right.


Healthcare is not a right.

"Should be"...valuable part of that sentence.
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Postby Ducain » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:22 pm

Everyone has the right to a free healthcare.
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Postby Raeyh » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:22 pm

Healthcare should be given to the homeless for free and everyone else should pay. If you can afford a house, you can afford your own healthcare insurance.
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Postby Capitalist Running Dogs » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:23 pm

Khadgar wrote:
Capitalist Running Dogs wrote:
Healthcare is not a right.


Your abhorrent ideology doesn't interest me.


And your abhorrent mauling of what is a right and is not, as well as your abhorrent understanding the of the economics involved, doens't interest me.

Yay! Everyone's happy.

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Postby Rezdin » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:25 pm

I thought one-liner intros were not allowed in General.
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Postby Ducain » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:25 pm

Raeyh wrote:Healthcare should be given to the homeless for free and everyone else should pay. If you can afford a house, you can afford your own health care insurance.

not everyone who can afford a house can afford healthcare for themselves not to mention their families.
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Postby New Acardia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:25 pm

Blaist Blaland wrote:Healthcare should be public, yes. It should be a basic human right

Well here in Denmark healthcare has been pretty much public for a long time...



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Postby Numer » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:26 pm

Raeyh wrote:Healthcare should be given to the homeless for free and everyone else should pay. If you can afford a house, you can afford your own healthcare insurance.


How will the homeless ever become "not homeless" and self-sufficient if we give them everything for free?
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Postby Bleckonia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:26 pm

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Postby Blazedtown » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:27 pm

Rezdin wrote:I thought one-liner intros were not allowed in General.


They're allowed in II I don't see why they aren't allowed here...
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Postby Raeyh » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:27 pm

Numer wrote:
Raeyh wrote:Healthcare should be given to the homeless for free and everyone else should pay. If you can afford a house, you can afford your own healthcare insurance.


How will the homeless ever become "not homeless" and self-sufficient if we give them everything for free?


It's hard to get a job when you are suffering from goiter.
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Postby The Sovietyeto » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:27 pm

Raeyh wrote:Healthcare should be given to the homeless for free and everyone else should pay. If you can afford a house, you can afford your own healthcare insurance.

Might as well all go homeless. Now you have people trying to screw over the system and dragging down the country they live in with their idiocy. Healthcare for free is a nice thing. But it needs to be planned out, and that is one thing politicians are notoriously bad at.
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Postby Bleckonia » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:28 pm

Capitalist Running Dogs wrote:
Khadgar wrote:There shouldn't be an industry to profit off the misery of others. Healthcare should be a basic right.


Healthcare is not a right.


So if you have a heart attack, you don't have the right to get immediate treatment?
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Postby Raeyh » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:29 pm

Bleckonia wrote:
Capitalist Running Dogs wrote:
Healthcare is not a right.


So if you have a heart attack, you don't have the right to get immediate treatment?


EMS won't charge you until after the operation.
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Postby DaWoad » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:30 pm

yes public healthcare is both better and cheaper for the country involved than private.
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