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Postby Kaleer » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:55 am

Arcada Xenon VI wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:It's calling homosexuality a "defect" and a "fault in the system," and claiming that acceptance of it will cause the disappearance of ethics and morals. Oh, and "brain-washed liberals." I guarantee that you cannot tell most homosexuals from heterosexuals, and I daresay that many of them are just as ethical and moral as you are. Probably with better manners, too.

Oh, with manners like you guys? Then I there is no doubt about it. :rofl: Celebration and acceptation of homosexuals is degrading for the society, I can't, of course, expect you to understand it, in a way it's just like those people that mindlessly follow fashion. How can it be normal to you? You're probably all for incest legalization too, that's hardly very moralistic.
You people walk all over anyone that doesn't agree with you, and have the nerve to criticize fascism. You're as liberal about something as long as you like it.


Gee sounds familiar.

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Postby Winland » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:56 am

Neat.
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Postby Arcada Xenon VI » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:58 am

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Arcada Xenon VI wrote:What source do you need? It's the act itself. It was considered an illness until they raided the Central health research clinic and made them abruptly change the classification of homosexuality.

Who is "they"? What "Central health research clinic" are you talking about?
Of course you're all right with that, you have no morals or anything.

I see nothing immoral with recognising that homosexuality isn't any kind of illness or ailment.
You can see no further than your eyes will let you.

Do....do you have x-ray vision?
Of course the Gay Pride is a mockery of everything brainwashed liberals dislike.

No dear, not mockery. An act of defiance.
And will NOT put up with that.

Actually you will. You won't do a single thing to stop Gay Pride celebrations of any sort, except complain about them. You have no grounds to do so legally, and if you tried to do so illegally you'd be quickly arrested.
What YOU and THEY are doing is the tyranny of the minority, trying to impose their "progressive" ideas.

Like how our forerunners forced society to give women the vote and acknowledge black people as humans rather than monkeys.
And the forceful promoting of homosexuality is totally Fascist, you are just too weak to admit it, even to yourselves.

We're not promoting homosexuality. We're promoting equality and tolerance.

Majority? Maybe in your country. Just complain? Maybe in your country? Just see how will the gay pride in Serbia develop. Three were cancelled, we showed our position on it. We're not girly little politically-correct Scandinavians.

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Postby Fomer Soviet Gaymenia » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:58 am

So?

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Postby Terruana » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:02 am

Ifreann wrote:
Arcada Xenon VI wrote:What source do you need? It's the act itself. It was considered an illness until they raided the Central health research clinic and made them abruptly change the classification of homosexuality.

Who is "they"? What "Central health research clinic" are you talking about?
Of course you're all right with that, you have no morals or anything.

I see nothing immoral with recognising that homosexuality isn't any kind of illness or ailment.
You can see no further than your eyes will let you.

Do....do you have x-ray vision?
Of course the Gay Pride is a mockery of everything brainwashed liberals dislike.

No dear, not mockery. An act of defiance.
And will NOT put up with that.

Actually you will. You won't do a single thing to stop Gay Pride celebrations of any sort, except complain about them. You have no grounds to do so legally, and if you tried to do so illegally you'd be quickly arrested.
What YOU and THEY are doing is the tyranny of the minority, trying to impose their "progressive" ideas.

Like how our forerunners forced society to give women the vote and acknowledge black people as humans rather than monkeys.
And the forceful promoting of homosexuality is totally Fascist, you are just too weak to admit it, even to yourselves.

We're not promoting homosexuality. We're promoting equality and tolerance.


I think he must be the guy from this article.

Specifically, this part:
Usher claimed that the American Psychiatric Association had only declassified homosexuality as an illness because it had been taken over by homosexuals, and said homosexuality was more dangerous than global warming - which he didn’t believe in anyway.
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Postby Arcada Xenon VI » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:03 am

Kaleer wrote:
Arcada Xenon VI wrote:What source do you need? It's the act itself. It was considered an illness until they raided the Central health research clinic and made them abruptly change the classification of homosexuality.
Of course you're all right with that, you have no morals or anything. You can see no further than your eyes will let you. Of course the Gay Pride is a mockery of everything brainwashed liberals dislike. And will NOT put up with that. What YOU and THEY are doing is the tyranny of the minority, trying to impose their "progressive" ideas. And the forceful promoting of homosexuality is totally Fascist, you are just too weak to admit it, even to yourselves.

:rofl: If you're going to make outrageous claims, you need sources other than "because I say so".

First off, it's a tyranny of the majority.

I'm strong enough to admit that I don't give a fuck what people do with their lives, period. I'm sorry your life isn't fulfilled enough that you have to bother making other people's lives your problem and trying to impose your own viewpoint on them.

Also no morals? Morals are subjective. Mine don't match up with yours same as yours don't match up with someone else's. Big deal. Plenty of things were considered mental health problems and are no longer done because guess what? They aren't, the world progresses, and people realize some things are either natural or differences of opinions.

Get over it.

People are before all a many, then individuals. Don't try to teach me that stuff, I study sociology. You are not strong, you are weak and a self-obsessed consumer. Aren't you making other people's lives you problem too by proposing such things? Well, if morals are subjective, why are you trying to impose your ways o nus, and, yet, you rebel if I do so? Couse before all, you, and all of you, are hypocrites.

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Postby Arcada Xenon VI » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:13 am

Terruana wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Who is "they"? What "Central health research clinic" are you talking about?

I see nothing immoral with recognising that homosexuality isn't any kind of illness or ailment.

Do....do you have x-ray vision?

No dear, not mockery. An act of defiance.

Actually you will. You won't do a single thing to stop Gay Pride celebrations of any sort, except complain about them. You have no grounds to do so legally, and if you tried to do so illegally you'd be quickly arrested.

Like how our forerunners forced society to give women the vote and acknowledge black people as humans rather than monkeys.

We're not promoting homosexuality. We're promoting equality and tolerance.


I think he must be the guy from this article.

Specifically, this part:
Usher claimed that the American Psychiatric Association had only declassified homosexuality as an illness because it had been taken over by homosexuals, and said homosexuality was more dangerous than global warming - which he didn’t believe in anyway.

I've actually never heard of that guy, but that was the case I was pointing too. (the American Psychiatric Association)
Cultural progressivism is very subjective. As well as you have proofs of it, there are many counter-proofs.
How many great writers, painters, composers have there been after the XIX century? Compare lady gaga to Beethoven? His one note is more worth than her's whole career, and he was freaking deaf. Compare some of todays avant-grade hipster painter wanna-bee to Vincent van Gogh, for example. Or Fyodor Mihailovich Dostoevsky's novels to one of todays "easy reads".
Sure there have been some good stuff, but, whether you can face it or not, the human race is regressing.

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Postby Divair » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:17 am

Winland wrote:Neat.

Indeed.


In other news, New Zealand is next:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=10830345

Good to see further progress.

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Postby Jewcrew » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:19 am

First world problems.

When a contract regulated by the government is seen as an issue of human rights.

Such a stupid progressive people.
Zionism is the only path to peace. Masada will never fall again.

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Postby Arcada Xenon VI » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:20 am

Seee, when it comes to New Zealand, it's OK. It's not regression. It's just a matter of society. They do have the women with most partners. Just like the girls in Scandinavia, they don' t bother with whole that "flirting" and "dating" thing too much. It's just on the back and spread 'em.

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Postby Divair » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:23 am

Arcada Xenon VI wrote:Seee, when it comes to New Zealand, it's OK. It's not regression. It's just a matter of society. They do have the women with most partners. Just like the girls in Scandinavia, they don' t bother with whole that "flirting" and "dating" thing too much. It's just on the back and spread 'em.

Maximization of civil rights anywhere is progress.

And of course it is a matter of society. Once society evolves far enough, it reaches a point at which it increases certain rights (see: women's rights, worker's rights, black's rights in the US, and now LGBT rights)

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Postby Kaleer » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:26 am

Arcada Xenon VI wrote:People are before all a many, then individuals. Don't try to teach me that stuff, I study sociology. You are not strong, you are weak and a self-obsessed consumer. Aren't you making other people's lives you problem too by proposing such things? Well, if morals are subjective, why are you trying to impose your ways o nus, and, yet, you rebel if I do so? Couse before all, you, and all of you, are hypocrites.


So because a nation has many people, all individual freedom should be scraped, because... Why again? I cannot seem to find your reasoning for that.

And I am not trying to impose my morals on anymore. I'm simply saying that you can live your life however you want to. If you want to marry someone of the same sex, go ahead. If you don't, don't. I don't care. Where as you are putting limitations on it.

And oooo, sociology. So scary. I'm a psychology major, consider us "even".

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Postby Terruana » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:26 am

Arcada Xenon VI wrote:
Terruana wrote:
I think he must be the guy from this article.

Specifically, this part:

I've actually never heard of that guy, but that was the case I was pointing too. (the American Psychiatric Association)
Cultural progressivism is very subjective. As well as you have proofs of it, there are many counter-proofs.
How many great writers, painters, composers have there been after the XIX century? Compare lady gaga to Beethoven? His one note is more worth than her's whole career, and he was freaking deaf. Compare some of todays avant-grade hipster painter wanna-bee to Vincent van Gogh, for example. Or Fyodor Mihailovich Dostoevsky's novels to one of todays "easy reads".
Sure there have been some good stuff, but, whether you can face it or not, the human race is regressing.


All I got from your post is that you prefer old stuff. I actually prefer Avicii to Beethoven, Stephen King to Shakespeare, Cinema to theatre, etc etc. I think the issue isn't with the human race regressing, it's with your tastes being outdated.
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Postby Anacasppia » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:27 am

YES! THE DANES DID IT! HOOAH!
Well..and I'm not even LGBT in the first place. But its a step forward for rights in Denmark.
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Postby Arcada Xenon VI » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:28 am

Jewscrew reminded me, in a third-world country such as mine, with an average sallary of 300 euros, and European prices, corruption, the ridiculously large administration left from the socialist era, the Kosovo problem, the outdated industry and plus a bunch of more stuff, the government tactically shoves Homosexual marriage, (it being such a touch subject) in order to mask the real issues.

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Postby Kaleer » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:30 am

Arcada Xenon VI wrote:Jewscrew reminded me, in a third-world country such as mine, with an average sallary of 300 euros, and European prices, corruption, the ridiculously large administration left from the socialist era, the Kosovo problem, the outdated industry and plus a bunch of more stuff, the government tactically shoves Homosexual marriage, (it being such a touch subject) in order to mask the real issues.

Human rights ARE a real issue.

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Postby Divair » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:32 am

Arcada Xenon VI wrote:Jewscrew reminded me, in a third-world country such as mine, with an average sallary of 300 euros, and European prices, corruption, the ridiculously large administration left from the socialist era, the Kosovo problem, the outdated industry and plus a bunch of more stuff, the government tactically shoves Homosexual marriage, (it being such a touch subject) in order to mask the real issues.

There is no reason why human rights and the economy cannot be dealt with at once.

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Postby Jewcrew » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:34 am

Arcada Xenon VI wrote:Jewscrew reminded me, in a third-world country such as mine, with an average sallary of 300 euros, and European prices, corruption, the ridiculously large administration left from the socialist era, the Kosovo problem, the outdated industry and plus a bunch of more stuff, the government tactically shoves Homosexual marriage, (it being such a touch subject) in order to mask the real issues.


Not surprising.

Things like gay marriage have been latched onto in order to mask the real issues. It's rather pathetic that in much of the West, especially the USA, social issues always seem to make it to the forefront when the economic issues are much more pressing.

Either way, congrats to the roughly 150 000 homosexual Danes.
Zionism is the only path to peace. Masada will never fall again.

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Postby Kaleer » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:35 am

Jewcrew wrote:
Arcada Xenon VI wrote:Jewscrew reminded me, in a third-world country such as mine, with an average sallary of 300 euros, and European prices, corruption, the ridiculously large administration left from the socialist era, the Kosovo problem, the outdated industry and plus a bunch of more stuff, the government tactically shoves Homosexual marriage, (it being such a touch subject) in order to mask the real issues.


Not surprising.

Things like gay marriage have been latched onto in order to mask the real issues. It's rather pathetic that in much of the West, especially the USA, social issues always seem to make it to the forefront when the economic issues are much more pressing.

Either way, congrats to the roughly 150 000 homosexual Danes.

Hey, you're totally ruled mind and soul by the government, but at least the economy is doing alright! Right?

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Postby Jewcrew » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:36 am

Kaleer wrote:
Arcada Xenon VI wrote:Jewscrew reminded me, in a third-world country such as mine, with an average sallary of 300 euros, and European prices, corruption, the ridiculously large administration left from the socialist era, the Kosovo problem, the outdated industry and plus a bunch of more stuff, the government tactically shoves Homosexual marriage, (it being such a touch subject) in order to mask the real issues.

Human rights ARE a real issue.


Human rights would be whether or not homosexuals should be killed or protected from public beatings.

Government recognition of marriage is not a human right.

If you seriously equate the two, I invite you to live in Saudi Arabia and learn what human rights are first hand (or lack thereof, as the case may be).
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Zionism is the only path to peace. Masada will never fall again.

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Postby Arcada Xenon VI » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:36 am

Terruana wrote:
Arcada Xenon VI wrote:I've actually never heard of that guy, but that was the case I was pointing too. (the American Psychiatric Association)
Cultural progressivism is very subjective. As well as you have proofs of it, there are many counter-proofs.
How many great writers, painters, composers have there been after the XIX century? Compare lady gaga to Beethoven? His one note is more worth than her's whole career, and he was freaking deaf. Compare some of todays avant-grade hipster painter wanna-bee to Vincent van Gogh, for example. Or Fyodor Mihailovich Dostoevsky's novels to one of todays "easy reads".
Sure there have been some good stuff, but, whether you can face it or not, the human race is regressing.


All I got from your post is that you prefer old stuff. I actually prefer Avicii to Beethoven, Stephen King to Shakespeare, Cinema to theatre, etc etc. I think the issue isn't with the human race regressing, it's with your tastes being outdated.

I'm not bragging here, I'm do not possesses a great knowledge of either classical music or classic literature, but I do know enough to see it superior. Sure, I've read Stephen King, he's not bad, but stand beneath Shakespeare. Films are, usually, books simplified, brought down for the average consumer.
But to claim that that lap-top music with 2 chords is equal to Beethoven, that is just ridiculous.
And before any of you say it, yes "De gustibus non est disputandum", is completely true, but that sentence has been used wrongfully in many a case. While is says that there can be no disputes over tastes, it does not state that everything is relative, just that, for example, you wont be able to prove someone that Beyonce ain't no Deep Purple.

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Postby Jewcrew » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:37 am

Kaleer wrote:
Jewcrew wrote:
Not surprising.

Things like gay marriage have been latched onto in order to mask the real issues. It's rather pathetic that in much of the West, especially the USA, social issues always seem to make it to the forefront when the economic issues are much more pressing.

Either way, congrats to the roughly 150 000 homosexual Danes.

Hey, you're totally ruled mind and soul by the government, but at least the economy is doing alright! Right?


Because denial of a government-regulated contract somehow constitutes being ruled mind and soul. :roll:

Sorry, I don't live in a fantasy world.
Zionism is the only path to peace. Masada will never fall again.

“Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.” - former Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister Abba Eben

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Postby Bluvil » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:37 am

Good for Denmark! Now, if only the UK could catch up with this whole equality thing.
I for one, raise my glass to the Danish government.
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Postby Kaleer » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:40 am

Jewcrew wrote:
Kaleer wrote:Human rights ARE a real issue.


Human rights would be whether or not homosexuals should be killed or protected from public beatings.

Government recognition of marriage is not a human right.

If you seriously equate the two, I invite you to live in Saudi Arabia and learn what human rights are first hand (or lack thereof, as the case may be).

Marriage has already been upheld as a basic human right. Try again. And just because you live in a country {I'm assuming since you both keep bringing up Saudi Arabia} that is notorious for shitting all over rights, doesn't mean every other country has to.

Jewcrew wrote:
Kaleer wrote:Hey, you're totally ruled mind and soul by the government, but at least the economy is doing alright! Right?


Because denial of a government-regulated contract somehow constitutes being ruled mind and soul. :roll:

Sorry, I don't live in a fantasy world.


No, the government just telling me what I can and cannot do with my life is complacently okay.

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Postby Copenhagen Metropolis » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:41 am

Khadgar wrote:About damn time.

Civil unions has been in effect in Denmark since 1989, as the first in the world.
Civil unions provide same-sex couples rights, benefits, and responsibilities identical to those of different-sex civil marriages.
The one and only difference is, that they can now be married in a church.

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