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Denmark has legalized same sex marriage!

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Do you agree with Denmark's decision?

Yes
679
81%
No
131
16%
Other
25
3%
 
Total votes : 835

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Socialdemokraterne
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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:28 am

Jormengand wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Which can be achieved by marriage equality, which annoys only people who are bigots, fools and assholes.

Not. That. Complicated.

And when the bigots, fools and assholes start rioting?


Where are the Copenhagen riots? Are there cars being flipped in Aalborg? Or if you want to try to throw the "it's different in Denmark" argument my way, why haven't the states of Connecticut, Iowa, or Massachusetts fallen into utter disarray? How many people were killed during the Great Californian Fundamentalist Uprising (otherwise known as the Proposition 8 Revolt)? Because as I recall it...precisely none, because the result of instituting same-sex marriage in California was a referendum campaign, not a bunch of fundamentalist rioters swinging from the streetlamps like a bunch of lunatics. That was a very, very public snapshot of just what sort of opposition one can expect when a US state legalizes same-sex marriage.

The Religious Right (by which I mean groups such as Moral Majority, Focus on the Family, Concerned Women for America, the Family Research Council, and the like) have a tendency to try to use ballot initiatives to win the day on their issues, not firebombs and car flipping. And why? Because the people who do things like bomb abortion clinics don't get anywhere. Interested Christian fundamentalists and their allies in the fight against same-sex marriage didn't respond to California legalizing same-sex marriage by burning down buildings and shooting people. They responded with a fucking TV spot. Here, watch it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp76ly2_NoI

THAT is what you can expect to see if federal recognition of same-sex marriage is on the approach. And if it happens, based on what we've learned, what will happen? I expect that the interested religious conservatives will try to take the measure to the Supreme Court and seek to argue that it violates the 10th Amendment to impose same-sex marriage on states which oppose instituting the measure and especially those whose constitutions explicitly define marriage as one man and one woman. I also expect them to lose that fight and to be told to take a hike. Even then, I don't expect riots. I expect what's happened in Connecticut, Iowa, and Massachusetts: nothing.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:51 am

Hathradic States wrote:Good for Denmark. But it is Demark, a tiny country in Europe that most people really don't care about.

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Postby Ovisterra » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:52 am

Risottia wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Good for Denmark. But it is Demark, a tiny country in Europe that most people really don't care about.

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Seconded. I still have hundreds of Euro worth of that shiz clogging up my bedroom.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:56 am

Risottia wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Good for Denmark. But it is Demark, a tiny country in Europe that most people really don't care about.

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Postby Miyager » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:59 am

Ruridova wrote:Good for Denmark! Sadly this means that the US is falling farther and farther behind in that whole Land of the Free thing.


Not all of it. Some states are doing it right.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:00 am

Divair wrote:We're now up to 11 countries world wide with same sex marriages in effect. Thoughts?

Great... time to celebrate.
Its just 182 countries or 95% of world that still ban two consenting people marrying after all. ;)
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Postby Kalibarr » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:01 am

Miyager wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Good for Denmark! Sadly this means that the US is falling farther and farther behind in that whole Land of the Free thing.


Not all of it. Some states are doing it right.


Most aren't unfortunately.

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Postby Miyager » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:04 am

Kalibarr wrote:
Miyager wrote:
Not all of it. Some states are doing it right.


Most aren't unfortunately.


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Postby Riltonia » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:08 am

Melas wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:Why do you hate the idea of two consenting people getting married?
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cause its stupid and just doesnt make sense.politcal one is acceptable i guess but still.cant they just get a contract which allows them the inheritance and hospital rights that married people do?


Well, judging by you're flag you're from Greece correct? Well, I think your country is stupid and doesn't make sense. Why did you guys even need that bail money (which you wasted) from the rest of the EU? Why couldn't you just get a contract?


Now see how dumb you sound? Rights are rights and gay rights are no different from any other civil right.
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Postby Zaras » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:42 am

Jormengand wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Which can be achieved by marriage equality, which annoys only people who are bigots, fools and assholes.

Not. That. Complicated.

And when the bigots, fools and assholes start rioting?


Send the fucking police in.
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Postby French Union » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:29 am

I'm on the side that could care less. Gay marriage in Denmark does not affect me, so I see no reason to care.

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Postby Kalibarr » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:44 am

French Union wrote:I'm on the side that could care less. Gay marriage in Denmark does not affect me, so I see no reason to care.


And yet you posted.

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Postby Camelza » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:46 am

completely irrelevant news:
Denmark is winning the Netherlands in the Euro football competition!

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Postby No Water No Moon » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:12 am

French Union wrote:I'm on the side that could care less. Gay marriage in Denmark does not affect me, so I see no reason to care.


Doesn't affect me, either. It's still awesome, though. Equality is good.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:20 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:I think Ifreann is coming.

*brohoof*

Hey can I join your riot?
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:23 am

To any people on this thread who are saying how horrible and satanic this is I want to ask you a question I have been wanting to ask homophobes for a very long time

what is so terrible about letting people love who they want?.
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Postby Cromarty » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:24 am

Genivaria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:*brohoof*

Hey can I join your riot?

No.

No riots for you.

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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:42 am

Camelza wrote:completely irrelevant news:
Denmark is winning the Netherlands in the Euro football competition!

Morale is high ;)

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Postby Winslavia » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:45 am

This Is Great. Now We Play The Waiting Game For Finland..... XD
But Once Again This Is Great. May We Celebrate Denmark's Awesomeness!!!!!

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Postby Social Republic of Trolls » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:48 am

We need to celebrate this day. Another great country has became even better.
Now we're waiting for the rest.
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Postby Digitia Klosetia » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:00 pm

WELP, I guess I live in the last Scandinavian state to still have some respect for traditional values and basic human dignity. Enjoy Hell, smørrebrød fuckers.


seriously though why do we always have to be the most boring of the bunch
goddamnit finland

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:02 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:*brohoof*

Hey can I join your riot?

The more the merrier.

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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:04 pm

Digitia Klosetia wrote:WELP, I guess I live in the last Scandinavian state to still have some respect for traditional values and basic human dignity. Enjoy Hell, smørrebrød fuckers.


seriously though why do we always have to be the most boring of the bunch
goddamnit finland


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Postby Vestr-Norig » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:07 pm

I don't think it is up to the government to force the church to legalize same sex marriage. I think the church should decide for themselves if it should be legal or not. So I do not see this as a good thing. But nevermind, I never liked Denmark anyway.
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Postby Divair » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:08 pm

Vestr-Norig wrote:I don't think it is up to the government to force the church to legalize same sex marriage. I think the church should decide for themselves if it should be legal or not. So I do not see this as a good thing. But nevermind, I never liked Denmark anyway.

There is no church and state separation in Denmark. The church is the only one to perform marriages, as far as I can tell.

If Denmark had separation and had civil marriages, though, I'd say let the church decide.

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