Denmark has legalized same sex marriage!

[Ceannairceach]

We get what you want to do. But what you want to do is appeasement and appeasement of fundies is stupid.

Why? It does everything you want to do, costs no more, and stops riots. Until you can come up with a good reason why this is a bad thing, stop arguing.

You know what? If homosexuals don't get to use the word marriage, then I am going to riot. You heard me.

Now what?

[Jormengand]

Look, look, I am not suggesting we reduce rights. I am suggesting that we give fundies a nice little word to cuddle when they go to bed. Until you get that, this argument is over.

What you don't understand is that there is no reason to do that, other than them threatening violence.

And there is no reason whatsoever not to. Little>none.

[Ifreann]

Maybe we shouldn't have given black people rights either. I mean, racists still get violently angry about that every now and then. Best to oppress people rather than upset their oppressors.

Look, look, I am not suggesting we reduce rights. I am suggesting that we give fundies a nice little word to cuddle when they go to bed. Until you get that, this argument is over.

I do get it. It's not just a word, though. It's the principle of the thing. You're proposing letting the violent minority dictate terms to society, and there's no way that's going to stop at the word "marriage".

[Blouman Empire]

Why? It does everything you want to do, costs no more, and stops riots. Until you can come up with a good reason why this is a bad thing, stop arguing.

You know what? If homosexuals don't get to use the word marriage, then I am going to riot. You heard me.

Now what?

We sit back and laugh at a one man riot?

[Jormengand]

Why? It does everything you want to do, costs no more, and stops riots. Until you can come up with a good reason why this is a bad thing, stop arguing.

You know what? If homosexuals don't get to use the word marriage, then I am going to riot. You heard me.

Now what?

Oh, well now we'll arrest you, and compensate the families of those you kill, and they'll have justice.

[Ceannairceach]

What you don't understand is that there is no reason to do that, other than them threatening violence.

And there is no reason whatsoever not to. Little>none.

There is a reason that you gleefully ignore; Discrimination and appeasement.

[Ceannairceach]

You know what? If homosexuals don't get to use the word marriage, then I am going to riot. You heard me.

Now what?

Oh, well now we'll arrest you, and compensate the families of those you kill, and they'll have justice.

I thought that was stupid, and wasteful, and not enough.

And by your own words, rioting is the only criteria for social change. Or does it only work for people that aren't homosexual?

[Ifreann]

We get what you want to do. But what you want to do is appeasement and appeasement of fundies is stupid.

Why? It does everything you want to do, costs no more, and stops riots. Until you can come up with a good reason why this is a bad thing, stop arguing.

It won't stop riots. It'll delay them until the anti-gay crowd picks a something else to take away from gays once you give them marriage.

[Jormengand]

And there is no reason whatsoever not to. Little>none.

There is a reason that you gleefully ignore; Discrimination and appeasement.

Discrimination? I personally don't care what word you use if I marry another man any more than I care what word you use if I marry a woman. Appeasement? Well, that's a good point in my plan, it stops the fundamentalists killing everyone...

[Samuraikoku]

And there is no reason whatsoever not to. Little>none.

There is. The reason is that marriage isn't a religious word. Religion should not interfere in the matters of the state. And marriage is a legal institution that can very well be called such without the need for religious people complaining.

[Ceannairceach]

You know what? If homosexuals don't get to use the word marriage, then I am going to riot. You heard me.

Now what?

We sit back and laugh at a one man riot?

I think Ifreann is coming.

[Ceannairceach]

There is a reason that you gleefully ignore; Discrimination and appeasement.

Discrimination? I personally don't care what word you use if I marry another man any more than I care what word you use if I marry a woman. Appeasement? Well, that's a good point in my plan, it stops the fundamentalists killing everyone...

They would kill no one. As I said, they aren't as organized or as well funded as you think they are.

[Galician-Volhynian Federation]

So you want to provoke them? I'll just leave you to it...

I don't know why you think appeasing them will protect you.

Ask Neville Chamberlain and Édouard Daladier where appeasement gets you.

[Ifreann]

We sit back and laugh at a one man riot?

I think Ifreann is coming.

*brohoof*

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There is a reason that you gleefully ignore; Discrimination and appeasement.

Discrimination? I personally don't care what word you use if I marry another man any more than I care what word you use if I marry a woman. Appeasement? Well, that's a good point in my plan, it stops the fundamentalists killing everyone...

Stop them killing anyone because they don't own the word marriage. Won't stop them killing people over gay people getting to be openly gay in public.

[Blouman Empire]

We sit back and laugh at a one man riot?

I think Ifreann is coming.

I thought he was pouring beers.

I'll go on a riot if I don't get my beer

[Jormengand]

Oh, well now we'll arrest you, and compensate the families of those you kill, and they'll have justice.

I thought that was stupid, and wasteful, and not enough.

And by your own words, rioting is the only criteria for social change. Or does it only work for people that aren't homosexual?

Citation needed. I said it was one, even in the absence of any other - in fact no, not for social change, for wordplay to keep people quiet. I think you fail to realise that I'm doing the same thing as you, and keeping people quiet.

[Samuraikoku]

Appeasement? Well, that's a good point in my plan, it stops the fundamentalists killing everyone...

That is the job of the law.

[Farnhamia]

Discrimination? I personally don't care what word you use if I marry another man any more than I care what word you use if I marry a woman. Appeasement? Well, that's a good point in my plan, it stops the fundamentalists killing everyone...

They would kill no one. As I said, they aren't as organized or as well funded as you think they are.

How many states allow gay marriage now? Six? Eight? I do watch the news and I have not heard of Christian fundamentalists rioting and killing people.

[Ifreann]

Discrimination? I personally don't care what word you use if I marry another man any more than I care what word you use if I marry a woman. Appeasement? Well, that's a good point in my plan, it stops the fundamentalists killing everyone...

They would kill no one. As I said, they aren't as organized or as well funded as you think they are.

I don't think anyone has died in Denmark yet. Maybe we just haven't heard. How about any of the US states where gay marriage was legalised? How many lives were lost in the resulting riots? Were there riots?

[Jormengand]

Discrimination? I personally don't care what word you use if I marry another man any more than I care what word you use if I marry a woman. Appeasement? Well, that's a good point in my plan, it stops the fundamentalists killing everyone...

They would kill no one. As I said, they aren't as organized or as well funded as you think they are.

One man with a gun can kill dozens. And are you really willing to take that chance?

[Jormengand]

They would kill no one. As I said, they aren't as organized or as well funded as you think they are.

I don't think anyone has died in Denmark yet. Maybe we just haven't heard. How about any of the US states where gay marriage was legalised? How many lives were lost in the resulting riots? Were there riots?

And all the US states where it was legalised were pretty liberal...

[Ceannairceach]

They would kill no one. As I said, they aren't as organized or as well funded as you think they are.

One man with a gun can kill dozens. And are you really willing to take that chance?

Sure, if it will result in better rights, and that gunman off the streets. I'll be one of the dozens, if it takes that.

[Samuraikoku]

One man with a gun can kill dozens. And are you really willing to take that chance?

Yes. There's law enforcement.

[Jormengand]

Appeasement? Well, that's a good point in my plan, it stops the fundamentalists killing everyone...

That is the job of the law.

And that's why no crimes have been committed by anyone, ever, of course...

[Jormengand]

One man with a gun can kill dozens. And are you really willing to take that chance?

Sure, if it will result in better rights, and that gunman off the streets. I'll be one of the dozens, if it takes that.

So you will die for wordplay? Sense make does not that....