Denmark has legalized same sex marriage!

[Terruana]

Why? What makes Beethoven so much better than any modern musicians? I actually find his music kinda dull. So using your logic of "what I think is good is the universal standard", I can categorically say that classical music is terrible.

Seriously though. Why are "classics" better than modern? And I'm gonna need more than just "because I said so".

Your lack of taste is no problem of mine. I listen to modern music too, frequently even than classical, rock and roll partially carrying on it's role in the 20th century.
But, you know, where as rockers would have to tune their guitars, all your guys need to do is to update the software anti-virus. I'm not saying you're some simpleton, but your failure to recognize quality is your shame.
Is the concept of chords, tones, keys, time signatures known to you? Now, I ain't no expert, but you can't argue what music is more complex. There are melody and rhythm all fit together perfectly. Violins playing unison, the true beauty of music.
Of course, you aren't a robot. Complex harmonies and scales alone do not mean good music. It is about what is captured in it, the tempo change, the constant discovery, you explore one piece as you listen to it. It's not just a sampled synthesizer played over a repetitive beat.

If you think Beethoven is better than anything any modern artists have ever come up with, that's your opinion. That doesn't make it an established fact. Get your head out of your arse and stop pretending like your opinion is so god damn important that anybody who doesn't agree with you is a "simpleton", or just plain wrong.

[Copenhagen Metropolis]

Civil unions provide same-sex couples rights, benefits, and responsibilities identical to those of different-sex civil marriages.

Mind sourcing this?

http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko12530/s2.htm
https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms/R0710.aspx?id=31533
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registreret_partnerskab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Denmark
http://www.kristendom.dk/artikel/428066:Indfoering--Hvad-er-forskellen-paa-aegteskab-og-registreret-partnerskab

[Zaras]

What "Central health research clinic" are you talking about?

Is it the VersaLife building? That level was quite fiendishly hard...

[Zaras]

Good for Denmark.

I remember the time when I hoped that Finland would be among the first ten countries in the world to legalize same sex marriage.. Well, it's not going to happen until 2015 and you can thank True Finns and their ''but two men can't have children and it's unnatural!!!11'' bullshit for that.

Man, fuck the True Finns then. Why won't they just get out of the fucking way...

[Hippostania]

Mind sourcing this?

http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko12530/s2.htm
https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms/R0710.aspx?id=31533
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registreret_partnerskab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Denmark
http://www.kristendom.dk/artikel/428066:Indfoering--Hvad-er-forskellen-paa-aegteskab-og-registreret-partnerskab

Civil unions are not equal to marriage, at least not here in Finland. Same-sex couples don't have a right to a common surname, for example

And oh god it makes me so sad to look at that map and see Finland as the only Nordic country that is not colored in dark blue. Fuck you True Finns.

[Zaras]

http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko12530/s2.htm
https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms/R0710.aspx?id=31533
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registreret_partnerskab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Denmark
http://www.kristendom.dk/artikel/428066:Indfoering--Hvad-er-forskellen-paa-aegteskab-og-registreret-partnerskab

Civil unions are not equal to marriage, at least not here in Finland. Same-sex couples don't have a right to a common surname, for example

And oh god it makes me so sad to look at that map and see Finland as the only Nordic country that is not colored in dark blue. Fuck you True Finns.

Wow, that is depressing.

Now I really really hate True Finns.

[Bordoria]

Why do you hate the idea of two consenting people getting married?
Clicky in case you bring up pedophilia.

cause its stupid and just doesnt make sense.politcal one is acceptable i guess but still.cant they just get a contract which allows them the inheritance and hospital rights that married people do?

Its about equal rights, adult consenting citizens have the right to marry other adult consenting citizens. Period.

If you disagree with gay marriage, do not marry a gay person, its as simple as that.

[Arcada Xenon VI]

Majority? Maybe in your country.

I never once said the word majority.

Just complain? Maybe in your country? Just see how will the gay pride in Serbia develop. Three were cancelled, we showed our position on it. We're not girly little politically-correct Scandinavians.

Which is nothing you did. If a parade were permitted, I doubt you'd do a damn thing but bitch.

All the parades in my country were violently imposed, and thusly, have been violently broken up. I'm not for the lynching of gays, but when they get all over us, hell, we won't just file a compliant. It's my country, my city, and I wont be ridiculed by roughly 500 Belgrade's gays and equally much money mad politicians.

[Zaras]

All the parades in my country were violently imposed, and thusly, have been violently broken up. I'm not for the lynching of gays, but when they get all over us, hell, we won't just file a compliant. It's my country, my city, and I wont be ridiculed by roughly 500 Belgrade's gays and equally much money mad politicians.

The homophobes should've been violently broken up. As violently as fucking possible.

And if an entire country and city thinks like that, it's a shitty place and unworthy of being called "civilised".

[Divair]

Mind sourcing this?

http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko12530/s2.htm
https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms/R0710.aspx?id=31533
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registreret_partnerskab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Denmark
http://www.kristendom.dk/artikel/428066:Indfoering--Hvad-er-forskellen-paa-aegteskab-og-registreret-partnerskab

A specific English link proving they are equal would help.

And if Denmark managed that, then congrats, they were slightly ahead of everyone else.

[Dick]

This seems like an issue that kind of flies 'under the radar' for many libertarians and anti-statists, but it seems like we could make a lot of headway with the marriage debate by promoting the solution of simply getting government out of marriage altogether:

http://governmentfreemarriage.com/about/

[Zaras]

This seems like an issue that kind of flies 'under the radar' for many libertarians and anti-statists, but it seems like we could make a lot of headway with the marriage debate by promoting the solution of simply getting government out of marriage altogether:

http://governmentfreemarriage.com/about/

That'd still allow people to violate LGBT people's civil rights, even more in the absence of a government.

[Kaleer]

They thing is if you don't have the "big bad government" swinging their mallet, then we'd have all kinds of groups fighting with each other over basic rights.

And if people were killing/assaulting homosexuals and not being pursued and punished for it, you'd have a point. Since the law protects homosexuals from actual violations of human rights, you don't.

In SOME countries. But not all. In some, homosexuality is still punishable by death. And there is such thing as fighting that doesn't involve physical violence.

[Bordoria]

http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko12530/s2.htm
https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms/R0710.aspx?id=31533
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registreret_partnerskab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Denmark
http://www.kristendom.dk/artikel/428066:Indfoering--Hvad-er-forskellen-paa-aegteskab-og-registreret-partnerskab

Civil unions are not equal to marriage, at least not here in Finland. Same-sex couples don't have a right to a common surname, for example

And oh god it makes me so sad to look at that map and see Finland as the only Nordic country that is not colored in dark blue. Fuck you True Finns.

Finland is also the only Nordic republic, and republics often turn to factors like religion/ideology to unify their populations, as opposed to monarchies which use a living person as the symbol of unity. Only 2 countries out of the 11 to have legalized SSM are republics, and they were among the last to do so.

[Zaras]

Finland is also the only Nordic republic, and republics often turn to factors like religion/ideology to unify their populations, as opposed to monarchies which use a living person as the symbol of unity. Only 2 countries out of the 11 to have legalized SSM are republics, and they were among the last to do so.

Argentina, Iceland, Portugal and South Africa are republics. It's 4 out of 11.

[Arcada Xenon VI]

Your lack of taste is no problem of mine. I listen to modern music too, frequently even than classical, rock and roll partially carrying on it's role in the 20th century.
But, you know, where as rockers would have to tune their guitars, all your guys need to do is to update the software anti-virus. I'm not saying you're some simpleton, but your failure to recognize quality is your shame.
Is the concept of chords, tones, keys, time signatures known to you? Now, I ain't no expert, but you can't argue what music is more complex. There are melody and rhythm all fit together perfectly. Violins playing unison, the true beauty of music.
Of course, you aren't a robot. Complex harmonies and scales alone do not mean good music. It is about what is captured in it, the tempo change, the constant discovery, you explore one piece as you listen to it. It's not just a sampled synthesizer played over a repetitive beat.

If you think Beethoven is better than anything any modern artists have ever come up with, that's your opinion. That doesn't make it an established fact. Get your head out of your arse and stop pretending like your opinion is so god damn important that anybody who doesn't agree with you is a "simpleton", or just plain wrong.

I see now that you may not be a simpleton, but an utter idiot. Some jerk fooling around on his laptop in front of a half drugged crowd is an artist equal to Beethoven?
It's not just my opinion, it's a fact. I can't be the first you hear say that classical music is above any else?
If your tastes go for the two chord beat bashing, then at lest have the courage to admit it.

[Zaras]

And if people were killing/assaulting homosexuals and not being pursued and punished for it, you'd have a point. Since the law protects homosexuals from actual violations of human rights, you don't.

In SOME countries. But not all. In some, homosexuality is still punishable by death. And there is such thing as fighting that doesn't involve physical violence.

I'm surprised Jewcrew isn't familliar with African and Asian countries that execute people for homosexuality.

[Bordoria]

Finland is also the only Nordic republic, and republics often turn to factors like religion/ideology to unify their populations, as opposed to monarchies which use a living person as the symbol of unity. Only 2 countries out of the 11 to have legalized SSM are republics, and they were among the last to do so.

Argentina, Iceland, Portugal and South Africa are republics. It's 4 out of 11.

Still in the minority

[Arcada Xenon VI]

What "Central health research clinic" are you talking about?

Is it the VersaLife building? That level was quite fiendishly hard...

I always were more of a System Shock man, rather then Deus EX.

[Zaras]

It's not just my opinion, it's a fact.

You know what else is a fact? You're 100% fucking wrong and also a hateful homophobe. Same-sex marriage is something you agree with. If you don't, you're wrong and your opinion is useless and worthless.

[Anvilonia]

If you think Beethoven is better than anything any modern artists have ever come up with, that's your opinion. That doesn't make it an established fact. Get your head out of your arse and stop pretending like your opinion is so god damn important that anybody who doesn't agree with you is a "simpleton", or just plain wrong.

I see now that you may not be a simpleton, but an utter idiot. Some jerk fooling around on his laptop in front of a half drugged crowd is an artist equal to Beethoven?
It's not just my opinion, it's a fact. I can't be the first you hear say that classical music is above any else?
If your tastes go for the two chord beat bashing, then at lest have the courage to admit it.

If you're not here for intelligent debate then what the fuck are you doing here?
Get out.

[Zaras]

Is it the VersaLife building? That level was quite fiendishly hard...

I always were more of a System Shock man, rather then Deus EX.

System Shock's graphics were worse.

[Kaleer]

They'd probably come out of the woodwork if backwards countries didn't have things like death penalties for being homosexual.

What death penalty? The're better protected then us normal, people! And yet they argue! Indeed, jewscrew, it selfishness taken to a whole different level.
Saying: "I don't care, they can do a\what day want, as long as my ass is fed" Is freaking selfish. It's utterly degrading. All that JJ Russo crap.

Incase you didn't notice, Jew doesn't care about gays marrying, he just doesn't want government involved. So you're probably reaching for the wrong support.

And no, I don't care what they do. And yes, my ass is fed because I work 40+ hours a week to make sure.

And yes, countries do have death penalties for homosexuality.

[Ulfaborg]

I never once said the word majority.

Which is nothing you did. If a parade were permitted, I doubt you'd do a damn thing but bitch.

All the parades in my country were violently imposed, and thusly, have been violently broken up. I'm not for the lynching of gays, but when they get all over us, hell, we won't just file a compliant. It's my country, my city, and I wont be ridiculed by roughly 500 Belgrade's gays and equally much money mad politicians.

That's because you can't stand people being different than you. They're inferior to you, and they don't deserve the same rights, right?

[Zaras]

I see now that you may not be a simpleton, but an utter idiot. Some jerk fooling around on his laptop in front of a half drugged crowd is an artist equal to Beethoven?
It's not just my opinion, it's a fact. I can't be the first you hear say that classical music is above any else?
If your tastes go for the two chord beat bashing, then at lest have the courage to admit it.

If you're not here for intelligent debate then what the fuck are you doing here?
Get out.

Nobody who's against LGBT rights is ever here for intelligent debate, they just want to shout abuse, troll and flamebait people who are right to make up for the fact that they're wrong.