If you could change one thing in history.

[Glorious Brittania]

Henry V was actually a bit of a bastard really, when you look past the Shakespearean propaganda. He massacred French civilians, brutally quashed any religious dissidence and had a crap haircut

Like most other medieval kings, then?

Pretty much. But with a really godawful hairdo thrown in on top of everything else.

[Bordurian]

Like most other medieval kings, then?

Pretty much. But with a really godawful hairdo thrown in on top of everything else.

Henry V (in my opinion) was a fairly good ruler.

[Disserbia]

Thats funny, because it worked pretty well for Museveni in Uganda. Doing research always helps when making arguments.

I'd like to point out that Uganda is a third world country and therefore it's very likely that a high population of both homosexual and heterosexual people are infected with STDs due to the lack of contraception.

Wow that shows how little you know what I'm talking about. Like I said, its generally a good idea to be able to back up your views concretely before debating with someone that can do this. If you are not familiar with Museveni's policies concerning the aids epidemic and homosexuality in Uganda, its stupid to make assumptions about it. Do your homework please.

[Disserbia]

Thats funny, because it worked pretty well for Museveni in Uganda. Doing research always helps when making arguments.
the difference is that Gaddafi didn't invade the US and try to kill Obama, and then justify it as working for the benefit of the American people. Sure he did, but so do Western governments when its to their advantage, so its pretty stupid of them to use it as a reason to invade a sovereign nation and break international law conventions, especially when that isn't the reason they're doing it. Meanwhile in Syria...

The US didn't invade. We were rather insistent on not entering the country.

I didn't say they invaded. If we were really that insistent we wouldn't have participated in military action...its a really easy thing not to do...particularly during a global recession where our troops still have other commitments abroad.

[Shofercia]

The US didn't invade. We were rather insistent on not entering the country.

I didn't say they invaded. If we were really that insistent we wouldn't have participated in military action...its a really easy thing not to do...particularly during a global recession where our troops still have other commitments abroad.

I think that the Lockheed-Martin missiles and bombs that entered the country certainly did the objectives they hit a disserbice

[Disserbia]

I didn't say they invaded. If we were really that insistent we wouldn't have participated in military action...its a really easy thing not to do...particularly during a global recession where our troops still have other commitments abroad.

I think that the Lockheed-Martin missiles and bombs that entered the country certainly did the objectives they hit a disserbice

I'm sure those who launched them would agree with that comment on many levels.

[Zutendaal]

I'd like to point out that Uganda is a third world country and therefore it's very likely that a high population of both homosexual and heterosexual people are infected with STDs due to the lack of contraception.

Wow that shows how little you know what I'm talking about. Like I said, its generally a good idea to be able to back up your views concretely before debating with someone that can do this. If you are not familiar with Museveni's policies concerning the aids epidemic and homosexuality in Uganda, its stupid to make assumptions about it. Do your homework please.

this is MY homework
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjnrLt3VuSM
oh,yes.He is very serious

[Disserbia]

Wow that shows how little you know what I'm talking about. Like I said, its generally a good idea to be able to back up your views concretely before debating with someone that can do this. If you are not familiar with Museveni's policies concerning the aids epidemic and homosexuality in Uganda, its stupid to make assumptions about it. Do your homework please.

this is MY homework
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjnrLt3VuSM
oh,yes.He is very serious

Yeah and this proves that Museveni's measures to reduce the spread of aids in his country were ineffective...how? Oh right, it didn't because his measures were effective. I'm not condoning discrimination and suppression of homosexuals, I'm just pointing out that that was part of his policy and it did prove successful. This was in response to someone who theorized that such measures would have no effect on that problem and thus be unsuccessful. Here is an empirical example proving otherwise. I'm sorry if this little truth offends you, however, it happened nonetheless, and to ignore it and say things to the contrary would be inaccurate.

[Horsefish]

He massacred French civilians, brutally quashed any religious dissidence

In all fairness, that was practicly the national past-time back then.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

All those inidans needed was decent border security and the country would still be free.

Bull shit. They would have sent more men. Europe was going to colonise the Americas, one way or another, and I'm pretty damn glad they did.

[The TransPecos]

Richard III wins the Battle of Bosworth...

[Hamerville]

Assassination of julius caesar

[Nazis in Space]

The invention of ice cream never happens.

[Nu Sparta]

If i had to change one thing in history it would either be

1. That the religions of the "god of Abraham" never developed and the world remained mostly pagan.

or

2. That people never forgot they ARE animals and NOT above nature, and instead of changing the planet to suit their needs they adapted to their surroundings.

[New Sapienta]

If i had to change one thing in history it would either be

1. That the religions of the "god of Abraham" never developed and the world remained mostly pagan.

or

2. That people never forgot they ARE animals and NOT above nature, and instead of changing the planet to suit their needs they adapted to their surroundings.

You know many pagan religion were just a violent as the Christian Theocracies right?

[Nu Sparta]

If i had to change one thing in history it would either be

1. That the religions of the "god of Abraham" never developed and the world remained mostly pagan.

or

2. That people never forgot they ARE animals and NOT above nature, and instead of changing the planet to suit their needs they adapted to their surroundings.

You know many pagan religion were just a violent as the Christian Theocracies right?

Who said it had anything to do with violence?

[New Sapienta]

You know many pagan religion were just a violent as the Christian Theocracies right?

Who said it had anything to do with violence?

Then why change it?

[New England and The Maritimes]

Who said it had anything to do with violence?

Then why change it?

One god is boring.

[New Sapienta]

Then why change it?

One god is boring.

I suppose so.

Someone could make a drama show from the acitions of the Greek Goods, constantly squabbaling and and making tempoary alliances.

[Nu Sparta]

Who said it had anything to do with violence?

Then why change it?

Because I believe that ancient religions were much truer then Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. I find it hard to believe that people all over the world would believe in multitudes of gods for absolute no reason what so ever without any sort of proof. I find things in their (Christianity and Islam, don't really have that much of a problem with Judaism) holy books hard to believe. Like the fact that they say we are all created in their one god's image but we all look and act quite differently. Or if there were only two people created at the beginning of the world who did their children marry if not each other, so we should all be inbred and sterile. Or if he is all knowing and omnipresent and supreme intelligence why hasn't he come to the conclusion that just showing himself and snapping his fingers to remake us "perfect" is the best solution. I find it easier to accept that ancient gods existed and were much like us yet more powerful. I also find it easier to accept that they've decided to go "Fuck you, you aren't paying attention to us" and have either left us or are just ignoring us now. Not saying they shouldn't have existed just wish they didn't take over the world. At least the world would be a more diverse place that way.

[Conserative Morality]

2. That people never forgot they ARE animals and NOT above nature, and instead of changing the planet to suit their needs they adapted to their surroundings.

"Yes, in a real sense nature does not exist. I mean that nobody can discover what the original nature of things would have been if things had not interfered with it. The first blade of grass began to tear up the earth and eat it; it was interfering with nature, if there is any nature. The first wild ox began to tear up the grass and eat it; he was interfering with nature, if there is any nature. In the same way," continued Turnbull, "the human when it asserts its dominance over nature is just as natural as the thing which it destroys."

[New Sapienta]

Then why change it?

Because I believe that ancient religions were much truer then Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. I find it hard to believe that people all over the world would believe in multitudes of gods for absolute no reason what so ever without any sort of proof. I find things in their (Christianity and Islam, don't really have that much of a problem with Judaism) holy books hard to believe. Like the fact that they say we are all created in their one god's image but we all look and act quite differently. Or if there were only two people created at the beginning of the world who did their children marry if not each other, so we should all be inbred and sterile. Or if he is all knowing and omnipresent and supreme intelligence why hasn't he come to the conclusion that just showing himself and snapping his fingers to remake us "perfect" is the best solution. I find it easier to accept that ancient gods existed and were much like us yet more powerful. I also find it easier to accept that they've decided to go "Fuck you, you aren't paying attention to us" and have either left us or are just ignoring us now. Not saying they shouldn't have existed just wish they didn't take over the world. At least the world would be a more diverse place that way.

I don't think you can get away with getting rid of Monotheistic religions because they weren't as true.

Because, hate to break it to ya, but no religion is objectavly truer than the other. They all require faith and have no evidence to back them up.

[Nu Sparta]

2. That people never forgot they ARE animals and NOT above nature, and instead of changing the planet to suit their needs they adapted to their surroundings.

"Yes, in a real sense nature does not exist. I mean that nobody can discover what the original nature of things would have been if things had not interfered with it. The first blade of grass began to tear up the earth and eat it; it was interfering with nature, if there is any nature. The first wild ox began to tear up the grass and eat it; he was interfering with nature, if there is any nature. In the same way," continued Turnbull, "the human when it asserts its dominance over nature is just as natural as the thing which it destroys."

And to that i say stop over thinking things. I'm not saying human beings shouldn't have gathered resources. I'm saying we shouldn't have done massive land clearing just to build a city. I would of preferred human kind stay in its tribal form.

[New Sapienta]

And to that i say stop over thinking things. I'm not saying human beings shouldn't have gathered resources. I'm saying we shouldn't have done massive land clearing just to build a city. I would of preferred human kind stay in its tribal form.

When we died of extremely mundane diseases?

[Conserative Morality]

And to that i say stop over thinking things.

Thought is such a terrible thing, isn't it?

I'm not saying human beings shouldn't have gathered resources. I'm saying we shouldn't have done massive land clearing just to build a city. I would of preferred human kind stay in its tribal form.

But clearing land to build a city is just as natural as a Beaver's Dam or a Bee's hive.