Invasion of Australia

[Greater Woodsonia]

So, if Australia were to be invaded by a nearby Asian country (let's just say Indonesia for now) which countries would help Australia, and what would be the outcome?

[Distruzio]

So, if Australia were to be invaded by a nearby Asian country (let's just say Indonesia for now) which countries would help Australia, and what would be the outcome?

What do you think the outcome would be, why, and to what end?

[Greater Woodsonia]

What do you think the outcome would be, why, and to what end?

I don't know. That's sort of why I asked.
Believe me, living in Australia, I don't WANT it to happen, but having read Tomorrow When the War Began, I just got thinking about it.

And the invading country would probably be invading for Australia's natural resources (coal, iron ore, uranium) and space for their ridiculously large populations.

[Meowfoundland]

Why would Indonesia, or anyone else invade Australia? This isn't the Tomorrow series, this is real life.

In any case, Australia would win and America would probably help.

[Tergnitz]

No nearby nation is capable of invading Australia; nor will they be able to do so for the foreseeable future. So your worry is essentially baseless.

If were /were/ to be invaded however; Australia could utilize the Russian strategy of trading space for time. Our military is fairly competent, we have a range of foreign allies (America, UK, NZ, Japan), and the vast majority of our population is located in the south-eastern corner of the country. While we might lose some parts of northern QL and WA; along with NT; in the long run we'd emerge from any such war victorious.

[Greater Woodsonia]

No nearby nation is capable of invading Australia; nor will they be able to do so for the foreseeable future. So your worry is essentially baseless.

I wasn't worried, but thanks for the reassurances.

But do you reckon Brisbane would fall in this hypothetical invasion?

[Tergnitz]

No nearby nation is capable of invading Australia; nor will they be able to do so for the foreseeable future. So your worry is essentially baseless.

I wasn't worried, but thanks for the reassurances.

But do you reckon Brisbane would fall in this hypothetical invasion?

Heh, no problem.

I can't even begin to speculate there. You'd have to consider who is attacking us, what their main strategic goals are, do they have the element of surprise, how many forces they have committed, where Australian military forces are, etc etc.

[Arumdaum]

I wasn't worried, but thanks for the reassurances.

But do you reckon Brisbane would fall in this hypothetical invasion?

Heh, no problem.

I can't even begin to speculate there. You'd have to consider who is attacking us, what their main strategic goals are, do they have the element of surprise, how many forces they have committed, where Australian military forces are, etc etc.

Timor-Leste! Duh!

[Eviliatopia]

So, if Australia were to be invaded by a nearby Asian country (let's just say Indonesia for now)

Bloody unlikely. And for that matters, why Indonesia?
The Australian foreign policy is one of the less aggressive for a nation to adopt, so I don't see them endangered at all.

which countries would help Australia, and what would be the outcome?

At least all the countries involved in NATO and SEATO alliances, plus probably some other nations ,as the invasion would raise international reprobation.

The invaders would be pretty much fucked up.

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[Radiatia]

New Zealand. The enemy troops would all die laughing at the New Zealand army, victory would be declared and then after that the Southern Empire shall rise....

[Saiwania]

The only country Australia has to worry about militarily, is China if they ever build a powerful blue water navy. The US and the commonwealth nations would likely intervene on the side of Australia if they were invaded. I believe Australia would win under such circumstances.

[Greater Woodsonia]

So, if Australia were to be invaded by a nearby Asian country (let's just say Indonesia for now)

Bloody unlikely. And for that matters, why Indonesia?
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Just because it is the closest Asian country that could even begin to pose some sort of threat (sorry Timor Leste). I wasn't implying an imminent Indonesian invasion.

And yes, the invader does seem "fucked"

[Hippostania]

Patriotic kangaroos would kick the hostile invaders back to their homelands, of course.

[Tubbsalot]

Nobody nearby would be able to touch us, especially as the Americans would quickly get involved. I suppose India might have a chance, just because I don't know what state their navy's in, but they'd not be at all interested.

We're just too friendly with everyone to make a decent target for anyone, and even if that weren't true, our navy is capable of holding its own against [insert country here].

If were /were/ to be invaded however; Australia could utilize the Russian strategy of trading space for time. Our military is fairly competent, we have a range of foreign allies (America, UK, NZ, Japan), and the vast majority of our population is located in the south-eastern corner of the country. While we might lose some parts of northern QL and WA; along with NT; in the long run we'd emerge from any such war victorious.

Er, not really. This isn't 1941 anymore, you may recall that Iraq fell over in literally hours. The limiter for speed of advance is defensive capability, and empty desert is notoriously poor at defending itself.

[Eviliatopia]

The only country Australia has to worry about militarily, is China if they ever build a powerful blue water navy.

Question, why would China invade?

The only reason would look like:"We're sick of you fuckers trading with us all the time!!"

So, no worries Aussies, you are safe. Unless the firebombing of the Rainbow Warrior was the first part of a super-awesome french plan to colonize the country... Hehehehe

[Tergnitz]

If were /were/ to be invaded however; Australia could utilize the Russian strategy of trading space for time. Our military is fairly competent, we have a range of foreign allies (America, UK, NZ, Japan), and the vast majority of our population is located in the south-eastern corner of the country. While we might lose some parts of northern QL and WA; along with NT; in the long run we'd emerge from any such war victorious.

Er, not really. This isn't 1941 anymore, you may recall that Iraq fell over in literally hours. The limiter for speed of advance is defensive capability, and empty desert is notoriously poor at defending itself.

In the echo of 1941; people nowadays serious underestimate how notoriously difficult it is to pull off medium to large scale amphibious invasions. I'd argue that realistically, only the US is really able to pull of such a feat in the modern era.

But to your point, Iraq during the second gulf war is a fairly bad example of the complexities of modern conflict. A state with military equipment from the late 80's at best and whose military had low morale; versus the most powerful military ever in existence. Even then though, the full invasion actually took around 2-4 weeks; not hours.

[Meowfoundland]

The only country Australia has to worry about militarily, is China if they ever build a powerful blue water navy.

Question, why would China invade?

The only reason would look like:"We're sick of you fuckers trading with us all the time!!"

So, no worries Aussies, you are safe. Unless the firebombing of the Rainbow Warrior was the first part of a super-awesome french plan to colonize the country... Hehehehe

Why would they bomb a Greenpeace ship in NZ as a precursor to invading Australia?

[Eviliatopia]

and even if that weren't true, our navy is capable of holding its own against [insert country here].

lolno

[Eviliatopia]

Why would they bomb a Greenpeace ship in NZ as a precursor to invading Australia?

Australia wanted France to stop nuclear tests, and this bombing pissed them off big time, right?

Also, it's the DGSE. You never know what they're up to

[Lyrantea]

Great Britain would help Australia, so would the United States.

[Tergnitz]

and even if that weren't true, our navy is capable of holding its own against [insert country here].

lolno

We really are...

Especially given that Australia is in the World's top 15 military spenders; which is $1,164.72 per citizen.

[Socialdemokraterne]

Who comes in to help Australia and how it would go largely depends on which Asian nation is doing the invading, OP. A Chinese invasion of Australia is an infinitely more serious geopolitical situation than an invasion put on by the Philippines, because most of the people who supply the Filipino military wouldn't take too kindly to their sudden invasion plans and in all likelihood would be able to end the entire affair before it even took off.

I just don't see Indonesia being able to stomp down Australia. It's just not in the cards. They've got the PRC and the Russian Federation as two of their military suppliers, but the rest would be pretty pissed if Indonesia suddenly tried to invade Australia. So if Indonesia managed to retain suppliers, the lines would be:

Russian Federation/Indonesia/PRC vs. Germany/South Korea/USA/France/Australia/Spain/Canada. It'd be a damned proxy war between the US, China, and Russia if it was anything at all.

[Greater Woodsonia]

I suppose India might have a chance, just because I don't know what state their navy's in,

Apparently it's a fully fledged blue-water navy.
So, if they managed to sneak across the entire Indian Ocean unnoticed, land a massive force in Perth...Yeah, I think they'd probably still be screwed.

And for reasons: a massive spate of violence against Indian exchange students? (I was getting edgy in 2009)

[Tubbsalot]

and even if that weren't true, our navy is capable of holding its own against [insert country here].

lolno

Shrug. Who do you think could crack it? Keeping in mind we have a pretty good number of submarines.

And if you say "America" I'm going to wonder if you're just replying to the wrong thread accidentally. I obvs mean the relevant Asian countries.

[New Hayesalia]

If North Queensland fell, I would take up arms with my fellow bogans.