Abortion discussion in Turkey

[Gideus]

You disrespect life with your bigoted views. You should be happy your parents didn't decide to abort you.

Well, if my mother had aborted me, I wouldn't have been sad about it, now would I? I still stand by that my mother had absolute right to abort me.

You, sir/madam, deserve a medal. I agree. My mother could have aborted me, taken a night after pill, etc. etc. I wouldn't be sad about it unless somehow I could think, but simple multicellular organisms that early in development lack thoughts. Do bacteria or archaea think? No. There are multicellular/eukaryotic archae, but they do not think. They would not be sad if you sprayed them with an anti-biotic chemical.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Ah. I hope no restrictions are placed upon abortion. Turkey is a wonderful and vibrant nation, easily one of the best in that part of the world and easily the best primarily Muslim nation. I'd hate to see that restricted.

I wish I knew more about Turkey. What little I've seen of major cities is beautiful. Amazing Race may have been a bit biased on showing the beauty of cities, though.

[Hallistar]

HAHAHA.

Had I never been born, I would have not existed in the first place, which means that I would have never lost anything. Thats not masochism, thats a FACT.

If it lets you sleep at night. become more intelligent by accepting facts, which it does.

Fixed.

[EnragedMaldivians]

Do jellyfish have thoughts?
Do sea sponges have thoughts?

Maybe.

Entirely plausible, by the standards you ostensibly possess.

It doesn't really matter what the semantics of what you consider personhood are; if there is something inside of a woman she doesn't consent to being inside of her body, it's not really your business whether she removes it or not.

[Hallistar]

Well, if my mother had aborted me, I wouldn't have been sad about it, now would I? I still stand by that my mother had absolute right to abort me.

You, sir/madam, deserve a medal. I agree. My mother could have aborted me, taken a night after pill, etc. etc. I wouldn't be sad about it unless somehow I could think, but simple multicellular organisms that early in development lack thoughts. Do bacteria or archaea think? No. There are multicellular/eukaryotic archae, but they do not think. They would not be sad if you sprayed them with an anti-biotic chemical.

Exactly, but Jedi can't accept this because that would mean facing reality. That we're all bigots for not fooling ourselves. Its a basic fact, had you never been born you would not be sad or lose anything.

[Jedi8246]

You've been bigots from the start. You show no respect for humanity when you disrespect the nature of life and death.

ARGUING IS HARD GAISE.
You want to enslave women and strip them of their rights over a glob of cells.
And you want to talk about disrespecting humanity?

Yep. That's exactly what I want. Let's put some shiny shackles on them slaves.

[The Nuclear Fist]

You're going to be cool with a woman being forced to invest hundred of thousands of dollars and 18 years of her life because you think a first trimester fetus could think?

She's no forced to do any of that.

So you're not going to restrict abortion and allow women to make decisions for themselves?

Got it.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

You're going to be cool with a woman being forced to invest hundred of thousands of dollars and 18 years of her life because you think a first trimester fetus could think?

She's no forced to do any of that.

Good, then you support abortion!

[Parpolitic Citizens]

You disrespect life with your bigoted views. You should be happy your parents didn't decide to abort you.

Well, if my mother had aborted me, I wouldn't have been sad about it, now would I? I still stand by that my mother had absolute right to abort me.

And I could kill you in your sleep and you wouldn't be sad about it. Please think before you fucking post something.

[Scotovy]

ARGUING IS HARD GAISE.
You want to enslave women and strip them of their rights over a glob of cells.
And you want to talk about disrespecting humanity?

Yep. That's exactly what I want. Let's put some shiny shackles on them slaves.

It's what you're implying.

[Jedi8246]

If it lets you sleep at night. become more intelligent by accepting facts, which it does.

Fixed.

You're not facing any facts.

[Jedi8246]

Yep. That's exactly what I want. Let's put some shiny shackles on them slaves.

It's what you're implying.

You go ahead and believe that.

[Scotovy]

Fixed.

You're not facing any facts.

[Hallistar]

Well, if my mother had aborted me, I wouldn't have been sad about it, now would I? I still stand by that my mother had absolute right to abort me.

And I could kill you in your sleep and you wouldn't be sad about it. Please think before you fucking post something.

Except when you were awake you were sad about the prospect of death, and didn't want to die.

[Jedi8246]

Well, if my mother had aborted me, I wouldn't have been sad about it, now would I? I still stand by that my mother had absolute right to abort me.

And I could kill you in your sleep and you wouldn't be sad about it. Please think before you fucking post something.

This is who deserves a medal.

[Jedi8246]

And I could kill you in your sleep and you wouldn't be sad about it. Please think before you fucking post something.

Except when you were awake you were sad about the prospect of death, and didn't want to die.

He's not killing you when you're awake though,

[Hallistar]

It's what you're implying.

You go ahead and believe that.

How about you go ahead and believe we're taking part in a holocaust?

[Gideus]

She's no forced to do any of that.

Good, then you support abortion!

No, remember, they can put the baby into adoption! Because that's totally better, right? Adoption>Abortion because it "Saves" a life that would be in terrible conditions either way. Also, can we PLEASE keep Jews out of this argument? It is irrelevant. I do not understand why people are relating Jews and the Holocaust to abortion; frankly it is offensive. I hate to imagine that millions of people being killed is being reduced to the level of termination of cells.

[Hallistar]

Except when you were awake you were sad about the prospect of death, and didn't want to die.

He's not killing you when you're awake though,

But you've already had a desire to live in the first place. You've wanted to live. You've had things that you would stand to lose by not existing to maintain.

Compared to a fetus, that would never be able to be sad or know anything about existence.

[Kemaliste]

easily one of the best in that part of the world .

Turkey doesn't belong to the Middle East, that's what separates her from average middle eastern nations. The geography is not everything.

[Parpolitic Citizens]

And I could kill you in your sleep and you wouldn't be sad about it. Please think before you fucking post something.

Except when you were awake you were sad about the prospect of death, and didn't want to die.

What? So potential thoughts and experiences matter now?

[EnragedMaldivians]

You mean Jewish men women and children? Who were scared for their lives? Who suffered and were gassed or shot with bullets? Who were loaded on to trains?

If you seriously agree that a woman who gets an elective abortion at 4 weeks is in any way taking part in a holocaust, you're the one whose sickening by disrespecting those who died in it.

You disrespect life with your bigoted views. You should be happy your parents didn't decide to abort you.

I am quite glad my mother aborted my "elder sibling" and waited until they were financially secure before having a child: me.

If my mother had decided to abort me, it really wouldn't be any more different an experience from what I was experiencing all those eons before I was conceived.

[Hallistar]

Good, then you support abortion!

No, remember, they can put the baby into adoption! Because that's totally better, right? Adoption>Abortion because it "Saves" a life that would be in terrible conditions either way. Also, can we PLEASE keep Jews out of this argument? It is irrelevant. I do not understand why people are relating Jews and the Holocaust to abortion; frankly it is offensive. I hate to imagine that millions of people being killed is being reduced to the level of termination of cells.

Its even funnier how over a hundred thousand children in the US alone go unadopted each year, and are stuck in crappy government orphanages. But, you know, those damn facts again.

[Scotovy]

Except when you were awake you were sad about the prospect of death, and didn't want to die.

He's not killing you when you're awake though,

Someone shoots you and you didn't see them. You instantly die. You didn't have time to give a fuck about death.

[Napkiraly]

No, remember, they can put the baby into adoption! Because that's totally better, right? Adoption>Abortion because it "Saves" a life that would be in terrible conditions either way. Also, can we PLEASE keep Jews out of this argument? It is irrelevant. I do not understand why people are relating Jews and the Holocaust to abortion; frankly it is offensive. I hate to imagine that millions of people being killed is being reduced to the level of termination of cells.

Its even funnier how over a hundred thousand children in the US alone go unadopted each year, and are stuck in crappy government orphanages. But, you know, those damn facts again.

Remember, facts are Satan's way of corrupting civilization. *nods*