by Kemaliste » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:40 pm
by Geilinor » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:43 pm
by Kemaliste » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:44 pm
Geilinor wrote:Abortion is legal in the United States due to Roe v. Wade. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0410_0113_ZS.html
However, the Republicans are quite anti-abortion now and would try to do everything legal to restrict abortion.
by Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:44 pm
The Andromeda Islands wrote:This! Is! A! Bad! Idea!
Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.
by Ifreann » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:45 pm
Kemaliste wrote:Geilinor wrote:Abortion is legal in the United States due to Roe v. Wade. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0410_0113_ZS.html
However, the Republicans are quite anti-abortion now and would try to do everything legal to restrict abortion.
I know that each state has different laws so is it legal in all of them ?
by Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:45 pm
Kemaliste wrote:Geilinor wrote:Abortion is legal in the United States due to Roe v. Wade. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0410_0113_ZS.html
However, the Republicans are quite anti-abortion now and would try to do everything legal to restrict abortion.
I know that each state has different laws so is it legal in all of them ?
The Andromeda Islands wrote:This! Is! A! Bad! Idea!
Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.
by Geilinor » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:46 pm
Kemaliste wrote:Geilinor wrote:Abortion is legal in the United States due to Roe v. Wade. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0410_0113_ZS.html
However, the Republicans are quite anti-abortion now and would try to do everything legal to restrict abortion.
I know that each state has different laws so is it legal in all of them ?
by Conserative Morality » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:57 pm
Kemaliste wrote:The prime minister Erdogan has brought the whole country into a discussion after surprisingly saying in his party's congress '' “I see abortion as murder… I am asking you: what’s the difference between killing a baby inside a mother’s womb and killing a baby after birth?” for no reason at all. Somebody claimed that Erdogan just tried to change the agenda as his government was under intense public pressure about the a debatable airstrike that led to the killing of 34 Kurdish civilians in Uludure, Turkey's Iraqi border. “Each abortion is one Uludere,” Erdogan said, adding that abortion and caesarean births were part of a sneaky plan to slow the growth of Turkey’s population. Abortion has been legan on request (up to 10 weeks) since 1983.
The next day, his health minister expressed that they've started to work on a new law proposal that would restrict caesarean and abortion. His saying that the state would take care of babies born because of incidents of rape caused a great public criticism. The main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) reacted furiously, “The prime minister should stop guarding vaginas,” said CHP's woman lawmaker Aylin Nazliaka.
A deputy from his party tried to justify Erdogan saying that abortion is still discussed among Western societies. A government-supporter journalist read a fictional letter on a TV program titled '' A letter from an unborn baby to his/her mother '' and then she began to cry. There are such efforts in some channels and newspapers to convince the public that it is a real murder exploiting people's emotions.
Now there has been a harsh debate in public for a few days, from my point I can claim that people are divided about half and half about this issue. I'm against its restriction, some women's organizations began to hold protests in the squares.
Is it a natural result of the party's being social conservative just like the Republican Party in USA ? are there such discussions there ? and are there states there prohibiting abortion ?
by Kemaliste » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:58 pm
Daihan wrote:Sounds like typical conservative BS. I'm sorry you guys have to deal with it in Turkey, too.
by Secruss » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:00 pm
by Ifreann » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:01 pm
Ashmoria wrote:ok.....but what is wrong with cesarian birth? does he want mothers to die while trying to deliver these precious babies?
by Alyekra » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:01 pm
by Kemaliste » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:01 pm
Ashmoria wrote:ok.....but what is wrong with cesarian birth? does he want mothers to die while trying to deliver these precious babies?
by Ashmoria » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:01 pm
Secruss wrote:I'm in agreement with the conservatives in Turkey on this one, abortion is murder of the next generation for the convenience of the current.
by Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:02 pm
Secruss wrote:I'm in agreement with the conservatives in Turkey on this one, abortion is murder of the next generation for the convenience of the current.
The Andromeda Islands wrote:This! Is! A! Bad! Idea!
Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.
by Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:04 pm
The Andromeda Islands wrote:This! Is! A! Bad! Idea!
Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.
by Alyekra » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:04 pm
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Secruss wrote:I'm in agreement with the conservatives in Turkey on this one, abortion is murder of the next generation for the convenience of the current.
It's not murder. To deny a woman the right to an abortion, you take away her bodily autonomy and essentially enslave every woman.
by Kemaliste » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:05 pm
Ashmoria wrote:Kemaliste wrote:
Republicans in USA are not able to do whatever they want at least. Unfortunately the people's rights are dependent on the government's mercy.
isnt there something about abortion rights being important if turkey wants to get into the EU?
does turkey still want to be in the EU?
by Ifreann » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:08 pm
by Kemaliste » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:08 pm
Secruss wrote:I'm in agreement with the conservatives in Turkey on this one, abortion is murder of the next generation for the convenience of the current.
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