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Postby Captain Apollo » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:18 am

Condunum wrote:
Ifreann wrote:World: We can haz peace?
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this.

If the aliens came in ships I doubt our nukes would be powerful enough to penetrate the aliens shields. If they had space ships and were able to try to invade I doubt we would be powerful enough to defeat them. The world would panic, and if we didn't have our own ships that could exit the atmosphere and combat them we'd be dead.

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Postby Grand America » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:18 am

Felkonberg wrote:Focus on trying to capture an alien, render them unconscious.

Then, infect them with as many of the worlds most infectious diseases as possible, and, in a contained environment, send the alien back to the mothership.

Keep on attacking the mothership until the infection spreads throughout the ship and destroys them all.


That doesn't quite work. Primarily because the concept of a mothership probably wouldn't exist, the same way no mothership exists in human navies.

Additionally, what infects us might not infect them.
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Postby Grand America » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:19 am

Captain Apollo wrote:
Condunum wrote:this.

If the aliens came in ships I doubt our nukes would be powerful enough to penetrate the aliens shields. If they had space ships and were able to try to invade I doubt we would be powerful enough to defeat them. The world would panic, and if we didn't have our own ships that could exit the atmosphere and combat them we'd be dead.


What atmospheric ships?
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Postby Captain Apollo » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:21 am

Grand America wrote:
Captain Apollo wrote:If the aliens came in ships I doubt our nukes would be powerful enough to penetrate the aliens shields. If they had space ships and were able to try to invade I doubt we would be powerful enough to defeat them. The world would panic, and if we didn't have our own ships that could exit the atmosphere and combat them we'd be dead.


What atmospheric ships?

I said if we didn't have ships that could exit our atmosphere (meaning they had enough power and survived the flight by not getting burned up) we wouldn't have a chance.

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Postby Grand Antarctica » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:22 am

Captain Apollo wrote:
Condunum wrote:this.

If the aliens came in ships I doubt our nukes would be powerful enough to penetrate the aliens shields. If they had space ships and were able to try to invade I doubt we would be powerful enough to defeat them. The world would panic, and if we didn't have our own ships that could exit the atmosphere and combat them we'd be dead.

Again we have better technology than most people think, we have FUSION not FISSION nuclear missiles, you want to know that the sun does? Fusion. Shields would not absorb heat I am almost certain energy produces heat and would have a tough time stopping heat and the heat would be spread.. the missile doesn't need to hit the ship just blow up close enough to it.
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Postby Felkonberg » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:24 am

Grand America wrote:
Felkonberg wrote:Focus on trying to capture an alien, render them unconscious.

Then, infect them with as many of the worlds most infectious diseases as possible, and, in a contained environment, send the alien back to the mothership.

Keep on attacking the mothership until the infection spreads throughout the ship and destroys them all.


That doesn't quite work. Primarily because the concept of a mothership probably wouldn't exist, the same way no mothership exists in human navies.

Additionally, what infects us might not infect them.


It's worth a shot, and I'm only basing this scenario on the clichéd media portrayal of an alien invasion.

Besides, nukes might not work on them either. Advanced technology and all. So either way, we need to figure the shit out.
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Postby Captain Apollo » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:25 am

Grand Antarctica wrote:
Captain Apollo wrote:If the aliens came in ships I doubt our nukes would be powerful enough to penetrate the aliens shields. If they had space ships and were able to try to invade I doubt we would be powerful enough to defeat them. The world would panic, and if we didn't have our own ships that could exit the atmosphere and combat them we'd be dead.

Again we have better technology than most people think, we have FUSION not FISSION nuclear missiles, you want to know that the sun does? Fusion. Shields would not absorb heat I am almost certain energy produces heat and would have a tough time stopping heat and the heat would be spread.. the missile doesn't need to hit the ship just blow up close enough to it.

You're guessing that the shields they have aren't powerful enough to stop that kind of explosion. I could be wrong also, they could have weaker shields than we think and our missiles could blow up their ships. But, I'm guessing if these aliens figure out interstellar travel and are smart enough and poweful enough to create ships that can fly and shoot at Earth from orbit than they'll probably have shields that can stop our primitive in comparsion nuclear weapons.

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Postby Grand America » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:26 am

Captain Apollo wrote:
Grand America wrote:
What atmospheric ships?

I said if we didn't have ships that could exit our atmosphere (meaning they had enough power and survived the flight by not getting burned up) we wouldn't have a chance.


Oh.
Damn.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:26 am

Captain Apollo wrote:
Condunum wrote:this.

If the aliens came in ships I doubt our nukes would be powerful enough to penetrate the aliens shields. If they had space ships and were able to try to invade I doubt we would be powerful enough to defeat them. The world would panic, and if we didn't have our own ships that could exit the atmosphere and combat them we'd be dead.

You're assuming they'd have shields strong enough to withstand the energy from a fusion reaction of that size. They'd be hard pressed to get something with that much energy, and probably wouldn't have it.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:28 am

If aliens ever invaded, a lot of people would say "I told you aliens existed!"

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Postby Captain Apollo » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:28 am

Condunum wrote:
Captain Apollo wrote:If the aliens came in ships I doubt our nukes would be powerful enough to penetrate the aliens shields. If they had space ships and were able to try to invade I doubt we would be powerful enough to defeat them. The world would panic, and if we didn't have our own ships that could exit the atmosphere and combat them we'd be dead.

You're assuming they'd have shields strong enough to withstand the energy from a fusion reaction of that size. They'd be hard pressed to get something with that much energy, and probably wouldn't have it.

You're guessing that the shields they have aren't powerful enough to stop that kind of explosion. I could be wrong also, they could have weaker shields than we think and our missiles could blow up their ships. But, I'm guessing if these aliens figure out interstellar travel and are smart enough and poweful enough to create ships that can fly and shoot at Earth from orbit than they'll probably have shields that can stop our primitive in comparsion nuclear weapons.

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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:30 am

Captain Apollo wrote:
Condunum wrote:You're assuming they'd have shields strong enough to withstand the energy from a fusion reaction of that size. They'd be hard pressed to get something with that much energy, and probably wouldn't have it.

You're guessing that the shields they have aren't powerful enough to stop that kind of explosion. I could be wrong also, they could have weaker shields than we think and our missiles could blow up their ships. But, I'm guessing if these aliens figure out interstellar travel and are smart enough and poweful enough to create ships that can fly and shoot at Earth from orbit than they'll probably have shields that can stop our primitive in comparsion nuclear weapons.

Yes, I read it, and I didn't need to respond it. You're still assuming that they have strong enough shields, but they'd be hard pressed to amass that much energy. That's basically trying to stop a micro-star from enveloping your spaceship. Not going to happen.
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Postby Captain Apollo » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:33 am

Condunum wrote:
Captain Apollo wrote:
You're guessing that the shields they have aren't powerful enough to stop that kind of explosion. I could be wrong also, they could have weaker shields than we think and our missiles could blow up their ships. But, I'm guessing if these aliens figure out interstellar travel and are smart enough and poweful enough to create ships that can fly and shoot at Earth from orbit than they'll probably have shields that can stop our primitive in comparsion nuclear weapons.

Yes, I read it, and I didn't need to respond it. You're still assuming that they have strong enough shields, but they'd be hard pressed to amass that much energy. That's basically trying to stop a micro-star from enveloping your spaceship. Not going to happen.

You think they have a problem with energy? Did they just decide that their ships would appear above our planet or did they make engines with enough energy to support their travel to earth. It would take a massive amount of energy to travel that quickly to get here quickly, and they would probably want to get here quickly because taking years just to invade another planet wouldn't be that worthwhile. I'm saying if they have enough energy to support their engines they'll have pretty powerful shields.

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Postby Grand Antarctica » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:36 am

In theory, An Electromagnetic field spinning fast enough could rip through space time, like a theoretical double-sided screw. May sound retarded but that might be why we haven't done warp yet? It could take minimal energy to warp if that theory could be proven? So not necessarily would one require gargantuan amounts of energy for Faster than light travel.
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Postby Captain Apollo » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:38 am

Still, if they were smart enough to create ships that can travel faster than light than they'd probably be smart enough to create shields that can withstand our nukes.

In my opinion we should be spending a lot more money on space travel so we can have ships and start exploring.

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Postby Sentinel XV » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:44 am

Why does it always have to be an invasion? Why are all alien races always depicted as hostile and bent on conquest? Is it really that absurd to think that an alien race might be benevolent, or wish to aid the human race?
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:45 am

Captain Apollo wrote:
Condunum wrote:Yes, I read it, and I didn't need to respond it. You're still assuming that they have strong enough shields, but they'd be hard pressed to amass that much energy. That's basically trying to stop a micro-star from enveloping your spaceship. Not going to happen.

You think they have a problem with energy? Did they just decide that their ships would appear above our planet or did they make engines with enough energy to support their travel to earth. It would take a massive amount of energy to travel that quickly to get here quickly, and they would probably want to get here quickly because taking years just to invade another planet wouldn't be that worthwhile. I'm saying if they have enough energy to support their engines they'll have pretty powerful shields.

Yes, it would take a massive amount of energy to get there and back. That doesn't guarantee that they will have enough energy for a massive shield, because that would take the same, if not more power, and that power doesn't replenish. The more power they put on their ship, the more impractical it becomes.
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Postby Captain Apollo » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:46 am

Sentinel XV wrote:Why does it always have to be an invasion? Why are all alien races always depicted as hostile and bent on conquest? Is it really that absurd to think that an alien race might be benevolent, or wish to aid the human race?

I agree and even, it wouldn't be that outrageous that they were humans (or humanoid) as well.

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Postby Sentinel XV » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:47 am

Captain Apollo wrote:
Sentinel XV wrote:Why does it always have to be an invasion? Why are all alien races always depicted as hostile and bent on conquest? Is it really that absurd to think that an alien race might be benevolent, or wish to aid the human race?

I agree and even, it wouldn't be that outrageous that they were humans (or humanoid) as well.

It depends on the climate and atmosphere they they evolved in. They could be vaguely humanoid, very humanoid, but more likely than not, they wouldn't really resemble humans at all. Which isn't a bad thing, really.
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Postby Captain Apollo » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:48 am

Yeah. This is why we need to start making some sort of ship that can travel faster than light and start exploring.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:50 am

Captain Apollo wrote:Yeah. This is why we need to start making some sort of ship that can travel faster than light and start exploring.

No, we don't.
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Postby Xekliv » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:50 am

I for one welcome our new alien overlords.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:51 am

Xekliv wrote:I for one welcome our new alien overlords.

I for one don't. I will be shooting all of them.

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Postby Grand Antarctica » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:52 am

Captain Apollo wrote:Yeah. This is why we need to start making some sort of ship that can travel faster than light and start exploring.

I second that thought, Really wish experts would stop looking at the VERY most complicated methods of space travel and see what is simple and could potentially work for faster than light.. and actually TEST IT! (my theory if tested has to be outside the atmosphere or.. it just might suck out our air to some random location in space. Hehehehe.)
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Postby Captain Apollo » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:53 am

Condunum wrote:
Captain Apollo wrote:Yeah. This is why we need to start making some sort of ship that can travel faster than light and start exploring.

No, we don't.

We've screwed our own world too badly to repair it. We may need all the help we can get.

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