Nidaria wrote:Grenartia wrote:1. Yes. Calling us immoral and denying us our rights with bullshit reasons for doing so IS cruel.
2. You certainly are making it look like that.
3. First, define perversion. Secondly, as long as its not depriving somebody of their rights without informed consent, its not illegal. We are committing no crime. You, therefore, have no reason to discriminate against us by denying our rights.
4. No, its not. Why would somebody choose to be non-heterosexual with people like you oppressing us? Its like choosing to be black in 1950s Mississippi.
5. You can't face the consequences of a choice that doesn't exist.
6. Proof? People are beginning to realize just how stupid it is to discriminate against LGBTs. Don't like it? Move to Iran.
7. Right, because teh gays are going to destroy America.
You've been severely misinformed. So, do yourself a favor, and get educated.
1. Placing reasonable restraints on how people should act is not cruel.
What's reasonable about laws targeting homosexuality?
2. How? By your logic liberals look the same as well, if not worse.
3. A sexual perversion is a relationship other than that between one man and one woman. "Informed consent" should go only so far. Two people should not be allowed to torture each other if they both consent to it. A perversion could be considered a crime.
Gay sex isn't torture. It does no harm to the participants nor anyone around them.
4. Some people simply want to go against the rules of society, however just they are. Homophobia bears no resemblance with racism. It is evil to discriminate against someone for how they are born. However, until concrete evidence is provided to the contrary, one cannot be born homosexual, and thus it is a conscious choice. Of course, the alternative is that homosexuality is a mental illness, which just makes it worse for you.
The majority of the psychiatric community disagrees.
5. See what I just said.
Same.
6. Cannibalism did not exist in the West for several hundred years,
No, people just didn't talk about it. Crazy fuckers have always been around everywhere, but 24 hour instant communication hasn't.
and now, in our much more liberal society, there is a sudden wave of it. I believe it is no just coincidence.
We've been liberalizing society for centuries, the cannibalism wave is a few months old. Odds are something else is causing it.
Also, the crime rate has gone up and people are more violent.
Source?
Rapes and child molestations have also increased.
Source?
Why is stopping a perversion "stupid"?
What's the definition of perversion? Homosexual sex? Anal sex? Vaginal sex not in the missionary position? Where is the line?
Harm can only come to us if we allow just one perversion to be legal. Homosexuality one day, pedophilia the next.
Homosexuality has no connection to pedophilia.
7. Perhaps not suddenly, but America will be severely compromised. As people are more sexually open, sex crimes and perversions will invariably increase (see my note on rapes and child molestations).
Provide evidence of a causative link, please.
In any case, you would be sharing my point of view if you had even a basic understanding of history and social studies.
Extremely basic, verging on non-existant.