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Postby Wikkiwallana » Thu May 31, 2012 8:56 pm

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Price gouging bastards. They know they got us.

You should have gone to Las Vegas. I hear they have free marriage license dispensers in the lobbies of the casinos.

Yeah, but if you hit the jackpot on those things, you end up with 50 wives.
And they all look like this.
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Postby Neo Art » Thu May 31, 2012 9:00 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You should have gone to Las Vegas. I hear they have free marriage license dispensers in the lobbies of the casinos.

Yeah, but if you hit the jackpot on those things, you end up with 50 wives.
And they all look like this.


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Postby Grenartia » Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:03 am

Nidaria wrote:
Tmutarakhan wrote:Your cruelty towards people who have done nothing to you and nothing to deserve such treatment is not "the moral center" but quite the opposite.

1. "Cruelty?" 2. Contrary to liberal belief, we are not Big Brothers who use torture on everyone who disagrees with us. 3. They are guilty, they are guilty of sexual perversion. 4. Sexual preference is their choice, 5. and they simply have to face the consequences of that choice.


1. Yes. Calling us immoral and denying us our rights with bullshit reasons for doing so IS cruel.

2. You certainly are making it look like that.

3. First, define perversion. Secondly, as long as its not depriving somebody of their rights without informed consent, its not illegal. We are committing no crime. You, therefore, have no reason to discriminate against us by denying our rights.

4. No, its not. Why would somebody choose to be non-heterosexual with people like you oppressing us? Its like choosing to be black in 1950s Mississippi.

5. You can't face the consequences of a choice that doesn't exist.

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Ifreann wrote:I'm quite aware of what I said. If the moral centre of America would oppress gays then hells yeah degrade it. Tie it up in the sex dungeon and degrade the shit out of it.

6. We would no longer be civilized. 7. Abandoning the morals which have prevented Western civilization from killing itself off is the most idiotic thing one can do.


6. Proof? People are beginning to realize just how stupid it is to discriminate against LGBTs. Don't like it? Move to Iran.

7. Right, because teh gays are going to destroy America. :roll:

You've been severely misinformed. So, do yourself a favor, and get educated.
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Postby Nidaria » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:40 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Nidaria wrote:1. "Cruelty?" 2. Contrary to liberal belief, we are not Big Brothers who use torture on everyone who disagrees with us. 3. They are guilty, they are guilty of sexual perversion. 4. Sexual preference is their choice, 5. and they simply have to face the consequences of that choice.


1. Yes. Calling us immoral and denying us our rights with bullshit reasons for doing so IS cruel.

2. You certainly are making it look like that.

3. First, define perversion. Secondly, as long as its not depriving somebody of their rights without informed consent, its not illegal. We are committing no crime. You, therefore, have no reason to discriminate against us by denying our rights.

4. No, its not. Why would somebody choose to be non-heterosexual with people like you oppressing us? Its like choosing to be black in 1950s Mississippi.

5. You can't face the consequences of a choice that doesn't exist.

Nidaria wrote:6. We would no longer be civilized. 7. Abandoning the morals which have prevented Western civilization from killing itself off is the most idiotic thing one can do.


6. Proof? People are beginning to realize just how stupid it is to discriminate against LGBTs. Don't like it? Move to Iran.

7. Right, because teh gays are going to destroy America. :roll:

You've been severely misinformed. So, do yourself a favor, and get educated.

1. Placing reasonable restraints on how people should act is not cruel.
2. How? By your logic liberals look the same as well, if not worse.
3. A sexual perversion is a relationship other than that between one man and one woman. "Informed consent" should go only so far. Two people should not be allowed to torture each other if they both consent to it. A perversion could be considered a crime.
4. Some people simply want to go against the rules of society, however just they are. Homophobia bears no resemblance with racism. It is evil to discriminate against someone for how they are born. However, until concrete evidence is provided to the contrary, one cannot be born homosexual, and thus it is a conscious choice. Of course, the alternative is that homosexuality is a mental illness, which just makes it worse for you.
5. See what I just said.
6. Cannibalism did not exist in the West for several hundred years, and now, in our much more liberal society, there is a sudden wave of it. I believe it is no just coincidence. Also, the crime rate has gone up and people are more violent. Rapes and child molestations have also increased. Why is stopping a perversion "stupid"? Harm can only come to us if we allow just one perversion to be legal. Homosexuality one day, pedophilia the next.
7. Perhaps not suddenly, but America will be severely compromised. As people are more sexually open, sex crimes and perversions will invariably increase (see my note on rapes and child molestations).

In any case, you would be sharing my point of view if you had even a basic understanding of history and social studies. :D
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Postby Hammurab » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:44 pm

Did somebody just argue that cannibalism and an increasing crime rate (where there is one) are because of gays getting married?

Because if so I'm going to go drink something.
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Postby Raeyh » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:45 pm

Hammurab wrote:Did somebody just argue that cannibalism and an increasing crime rate (where there is one) are because of gays getting married?

Because if so I'm going to go drink something.


Must be a chaos butterfly argument.

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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:47 pm

Hammurab wrote:Did somebody just argue that cannibalism and an increasing crime rate (where there is one) are because of gays getting married?

Because if so I'm going to go drink something.

Don't you see the obvious correlation? If gays marry, a gene inherent in all of us is suddenly triggered, inducing us to eat people's faces and steal old women's purses.
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Postby Nidaria » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:48 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Hammurab wrote:Did somebody just argue that cannibalism and an increasing crime rate (where there is one) are because of gays getting married?

Because if so I'm going to go drink something.


Must be a chaos butterfly argument.

No, it is because the legalization of homosexuality dissolves the moral code (which liberals call unfair and barbaric) which protects the people from crime and other evils.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:50 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
Must be a chaos butterfly argument.

No, it is because the legalization of homosexuality dissolves the moral code (which liberals call unfair and barbaric) which protects the people from crime and other evils.

How, exactly?
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Buffett and Colbert wrote:Clever, but your Jedi mind tricks don't work on me.

His Jedi mind tricks are insignificant compared to the power of Buffy's sex appeal.
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Buffett and Colbert wrote:My law class took my virginity. And it was 100% consensual.

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Postby Hammurab » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:50 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Hammurab wrote:Did somebody just argue that cannibalism and an increasing crime rate (where there is one) are because of gays getting married?

Because if so I'm going to go drink something.

Don't you see the obvious correlation? If gays marry, a gene inherent in all of us is suddenly triggered, inducing us to eat people's faces and steal old women's purses.


Okay. John Carpenter directs, and handles the soundtrack. Peter Jackson can handle DP and editing.

I say we shoot it mockumentary style, with the exception of Christopher Walken as Pastor Jerry Hymenatric, the only one who can save us all.
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Postby Hammurab » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:51 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
Must be a chaos butterfly argument.

No, it is because the legalization of homosexuality dissolves the moral code (which liberals call unfair and barbaric) which protects the people from crime and other evils.


So if crime was actually going down and was lower in more progressive areas, you'd have to reverse your conclusion.

Hmmm.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:51 pm

Hammurab wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:Don't you see the obvious correlation? If gays marry, a gene inherent in all of us is suddenly triggered, inducing us to eat people's faces and steal old women's purses.


Okay. John Carpenter directs, and handles the soundtrack. Peter Jackson can handle DP and editing.

I say we shoot it mockumentary style, with the exception of Christopher Walken as Pastor Jerry Hymenatric, the only one who can save us all.

It'll be a hit.
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Buffett and Colbert wrote:Clever, but your Jedi mind tricks don't work on me.

His Jedi mind tricks are insignificant compared to the power of Buffy's sex appeal.
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Buffett and Colbert wrote:My law class took my virginity. And it was 100% consensual.

I accuse your precious law class of statutory rape.

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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:52 pm

Hammurab wrote:
Nidaria wrote:No, it is because the legalization of homosexuality dissolves the moral code (which liberals call unfair and barbaric) which protects the people from crime and other evils.


So if crime was actually going down and was lower in more progressive areas, you'd have to reverse your conclusion.

Hmmm.

Or crime going up in conservative ones... such as my own...
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Buffett and Colbert wrote:Clever, but your Jedi mind tricks don't work on me.

His Jedi mind tricks are insignificant compared to the power of Buffy's sex appeal.
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Buffett and Colbert wrote:My law class took my virginity. And it was 100% consensual.

I accuse your precious law class of statutory rape.

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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:52 pm

Cromarty wrote:Excellent move that doesn't go far enough in it's scope.

Well, they really don't have the power though SCOTUS will with any luck follow through.
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Postby Raeyh » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:53 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
Must be a chaos butterfly argument.

No, it is because the legalization of homosexuality dissolves the moral code (which liberals call unfair and barbaric) which protects the people from crime and other evils.


So your solution is to treat homosexuals as social pariahs so that they aren't accepted into society and cause it to change?

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Postby Hammurab » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:56 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Hammurab wrote:
Okay. John Carpenter directs, and handles the soundtrack. Peter Jackson can handle DP and editing.

I say we shoot it mockumentary style, with the exception of Christopher Walken as Pastor Jerry Hymenatric, the only one who can save us all.

It'll be a hit.



Fine. We can call it "Night of the Faceless Gucci-bag FagHag Homoloving Liberals: A Musical".
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Postby The Republican Tea Party » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:56 pm

This is truly a step back from Good ol' Bill Clinton's message that marriage is to be defined as between a man and a woman.
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Postby Free South Califas » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:56 pm

Nidaria, it is your desire to exclude people from civic participation which erodes the moral standard. That you claim to be a self-righteously moral being degrades it further.
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Postby Hammurab » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:56 pm

The Republican Tea Party wrote:This is truly a step back from Good ol' Bill Clinton's message that marriage is to be defined as between a man and a woman.


Bill Clinton foolishly squandered his Presidency on other issues.
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Postby Nidaria » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:57 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Nidaria wrote:No, it is because the legalization of homosexuality dissolves the moral code (which liberals call unfair and barbaric) which protects the people from crime and other evils.


So your solution is to treat homosexuals as social pariahs so that they aren't accepted into society and cause it to change?

No, they should be rehabilitated. Our society has degraded far enough already, it is time to reverse the process.
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Postby Hammurab » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:57 pm

Free South Califas wrote:Nidaria, it is your desire to exclude people from civic participation which erodes the moral standard. That you claim to be a self-righteously moral being degrades it further.


Yeah, but somebody explained "Utilitarianism" to him in a way that stuck in his head as important.

Like when that dockworker on the Kids in the Hall learned the word "ascertain".
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Postby Free South Califas » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:57 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
So your solution is to treat homosexuals as social pariahs so that they aren't accepted into society and cause it to change?

No, they should be rehabilitated. Our society has degraded far enough already, it is time to reverse the process.


I agree. Off to camp you go.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:57 pm

The Republican Tea Party wrote:This is truly a step back from Good ol' Bill Clinton's message that marriage is to be defined as between a man and a woman.

Because he's definitely the authority on the subject.
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His Jedi mind tricks are insignificant compared to the power of Buffy's sex appeal.
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Buffett and Colbert wrote:My law class took my virginity. And it was 100% consensual.

I accuse your precious law class of statutory rape.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:58 pm

Hammurab wrote:Did somebody just argue that cannibalism and an increasing crime rate (where there is one) are because of gays getting married?

Because if so I'm going to go drink something.


I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually believes that.
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Postby Raeyh » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:58 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
So your solution is to treat homosexuals as social pariahs so that they aren't accepted into society and cause it to change?

No, they should be rehabilitated. Our society has degraded far enough already, it is time to reverse the process.


Then you also have to hold heterosexuals to the same moral standard.

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