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NYC bans sweet drinks

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Should government tell us what not to drink?

1.Never
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29%
2.Sure, sugar is ebbil
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4%
3. Maybe if it is underage drinking you are talking about
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12%
4. Under certain circumstances
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10%
5. What about the beverage makers, hm?
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6%
6. Now I feel soooo thirsty
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8%
7. Hey Bloomberg, does this apply to stadium beer? the public will not stand for that.
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8%
8. Movie drinks are too expensive anyway
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7%
9. Your tax dollars at work
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12%
10. other
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4%
 
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NYC bans sweet drinks

Postby Pope Joan » Thu May 31, 2012 3:17 pm

"Forget about super-sizing sugary drinks in New York City starting in Spring of 2013. Mayor Michael Bloomberg, frustrated he couldn't get a 'soda tax' passed, is ordering restaurants and delis to stop selling sodas, sugared teas and other sweet high-calorie drinks, over 16 ounces, in restaurants, delis, movie theatres and sports arenas."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/def ... E|featured

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/busin ... t-business

Is this a good thing? Some people actually need those calories, what about them?

There is no proof that obesity leads to higher health costs, no proven cause-and-effect relationship, so I say government should not tell us what not to drink.
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Postby A Republican Empire State » Thu May 31, 2012 3:18 pm

Unbelievable. This is a violation of the Constitution.
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Postby Divair » Thu May 31, 2012 3:18 pm

The utter fuck? How did this pass? :blink:

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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Thu May 31, 2012 3:20 pm

In defiance everyone should go on protest with a Big Gulp.

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Postby Imsogone » Thu May 31, 2012 3:21 pm

A Republican Empire State wrote:Unbelievable. This is a violation of the Constitution.


Where in the Constitution does it say we have a right to life, liberty and kool-aid?

[size=85]yes, I know, it's the Declaration of Independence[/size]
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu May 31, 2012 3:21 pm

A Republican Empire State wrote:Unbelievable. This is a violation of the Constitution.

No, it's not.

The New York State Constitution grants the state and it's organs almost unlimited power to regulate commerce within the state. Hence, it is perfectly permissible under the Charter of the City of New York to ban the sale of all sugared drinks in restaurants etc. that are over 16 oz.

Whether it is a good idea or not has really no bearing on its legality.
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Postby Vecolia » Thu May 31, 2012 3:21 pm

I will pass out coca-cola on Flatbush Avenue if I have to, my city shall not be healthy!

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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu May 31, 2012 3:22 pm

Occupy Bloomberg.
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Postby A Republican Empire State » Thu May 31, 2012 3:22 pm

Imsogone wrote:
A Republican Empire State wrote:Unbelievable. This is a violation of the Constitution.


Where in the Constitution does it say we have a right to life, liberty and kool-aid?

[size=85]yes, I know, it's the Declaration of Independence[/size]

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Postby Rupudska » Thu May 31, 2012 3:22 pm

What the flying fuck is this sorcery. This had better be a ploy. It's a ploy, right? Right?
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu May 31, 2012 3:22 pm

The thread title is also misleading some people who don't bother to read the post
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Postby Pope Joan » Thu May 31, 2012 3:22 pm

Imsogone wrote:
A Republican Empire State wrote:Unbelievable. This is a violation of the Constitution.


Where in the Constitution does it say we have a right to life, liberty and kool-aid?

[size=85]yes, I know, it's the Declaration of Independence[/size]


Well, I think you reference the Declaration of Independence there, but surely mega Pepsi Max is a major step toward the pursuit of happiness?
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Postby Woodfin » Thu May 31, 2012 3:22 pm

I hate him so much, if the man could he would turn this great city into a city state that would end up starving to death.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 pm

Divair wrote:The utter fuck? How did this pass? :blink:


Well when a group of people (preferably a majority) elect a liberal douchebag to office...

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Postby Imsogone » Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 pm

Children! To your kool-aid stands!
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 pm

A Republican Empire State wrote:
Imsogone wrote:
Where in the Constitution does it say we have a right to life, liberty and kool-aid?

yes, I know, it's the Declaration of Independence

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Which isn't in the constitution.
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Postby Episarta » Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 pm

Well, I suppose the intentions are good, but this could be done in a better way. Maybe something more gradual.
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Postby Imsogone » Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 pm

Pope Joan wrote:
Imsogone wrote:
Where in the Constitution does it say we have a right to life, liberty and kool-aid?

[size=85]yes, I know, it's the Declaration of Independence[/size]


Well, I think you reference the Declaration of Independence there, but surely mega Pepsi Max is a major step toward the pursuit of happiness?


Read the fine print, please.
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Postby Olthar » Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 pm

Wow, this has to be one of the stupidest laws ever passed.
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Postby A Republican Empire State » Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
A Republican Empire State wrote:Happiness

Which isn't in the constitution.

It;s in the declaration of indepenence.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 pm

Well, portion sizes have gotten out of control lately. Stemming that tide may be a good idea if there's evidence of real health problems that could be linked back to this which are also becoming any kind of major issue.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Thu May 31, 2012 3:24 pm

Easy fix: Take a Big Gulp, fill with soda, add a small splash of alcoholic beverage.

32oz mixed drink.

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Postby Imsogone » Thu May 31, 2012 3:24 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:Well, portion sizes have gotten out of control lately. Stemming that tide may be a good idea if there's evidence of real health problems that could be linked back to this which are also becoming any kind of major issue.


They can have my 64 oz. Classic Coke when they pry it out of my cold, sticky dead hands.
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Postby Blazedtown » Thu May 31, 2012 3:25 pm

Bloomberg is an asshole. He' doesn't even live in NYC. He sleeps there, but he spends all his time off in Bermuda. he flies there every weekend. My sister knows a guy in his office, its not just a rumor.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Thu May 31, 2012 3:25 pm

Imsogone wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Well, portion sizes have gotten out of control lately. Stemming that tide may be a good idea if there's evidence of real health problems that could be linked back to this which are also becoming any kind of major issue.


They can have my 64 oz. Classic Coke when they pry it out of my cold, sticky dead hands.


I know. I know your pain. I down 4 a day if I'm really going. Diet coke for me, though. Still, I get it.
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