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Would you kill an intruder?

Yes
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Id shoot him in a limb
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Id hide & wait till he leaves
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Other(plz explain)
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Postby The United Citizen Federation » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:48 am

I think the above poster said something about this, but I would shoot to wound. If he still isnt subdued and its either me or him then yes I would kill him
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:50 am

Heck, if I saw somebody in my yard during the night, coming toward my house, he wouldn't make it to the porch.

So, yes, I would shoot to kill. Several times.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:50 am

The United Citizen Federation wrote:I think the above poster said something about this, but I would shoot to wound. If he still isnt subdued and its either me or him then yes I would kill him

What if he has a gun? Are you going to just wound him, so that he can then kill you?
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:51 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Heck, if I saw somebody in my yard during the night, coming toward my house, he wouldn't make it to the porch.

So, yes, I would shoot to kill. Several times.

This would make you a murderer.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:52 am

Parpolitic Citizens wrote:
Kardelia wrote:Castle laws have been in many states for years now, as we all know. Also the general answer you will get from cops about if you should shoot to kill is "kill them, they cant sue if they are dead"
So, here is the scenario. You live in a state where it is legal to shoot and/or kill a tresspasser. One day a robber breaks into your house and starts stripping it to the walls. You notice the robber also has a large knife.
You have a gun. Assuming the robber is dangerous-you don't know if he really wants to kill you or just harm you but nevertheless you must decide what to do.Do you shoot to kill?,Do you shoot to wound?, or you just let him strip your house to the walls?
Remember he is armed and poses a threat. He is also trying to steal everything you ever owned for the express purpose of getting money illegaly through your own hardwork.
Personally, id probably shoot to kill if I really have to but that is my own opinion.

Well, what's yours NSG?



I would give him a warning and tell him to drop the weapon. If he does not relent, I would kill him.



You: "Drop your weapon!"

Him: *throws knife/shoots gun/uses weapon*

End Result: You die.
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Postby The United Citizen Federation » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:52 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Citizen Federation wrote:I think the above poster said something about this, but I would shoot to wound. If he still isnt subdued and its either me or him then yes I would kill him

What if he has a gun? Are you going to just wound him, so that he can then kill you?

As the below person said, you would be a murderer. As i said, wound first i doubt he will still hold on to the gun
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Postby CTALNH » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:53 am

Yes I would shoot in a heartbeat then laugh with a maniacal laugher.

What?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:54 am

Cromarty wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Heck, if I saw somebody in my yard during the night, coming toward my house, he wouldn't make it to the porch.

So, yes, I would shoot to kill. Several times.

This would make you a murderer.

I don't see how. Please explain.

By the way, the "in my yard" was more sarcastic. If I saw he had a weapon, I would shoot him. If I didn't think he did, I'd just yell from a window, while drawing a bead on him just in case.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:55 am

The United Citizen Federation wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:What if he has a gun? Are you going to just wound him, so that he can then kill you?

As the below person said, you would be a murderer. As i said, wound first i doubt he will still hold on to the gun

You doubt that, hmm? Try it out some time, then. It's your life of course.
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Postby Communist State of Sandon » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:56 am

Hell yes i would kill him. He has a knife, so it's legal. the world needs freed of scum like that anyway.

i'm like Ivan Drago and Jimbo form south park.

"IT'S COMIN RIGHT TOWARDS ME!!!" *shoots twice, once in heart, once in head* "If he dies, he dies."

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Postby The United Citizen Federation » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:58 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Citizen Federation wrote:As the below person said, you would be a murderer. As i said, wound first i doubt he will still hold on to the gun

You doubt that, hmm? Try it out some time, then. It's your life of course.

Robber are not soldiers, their first thought is their life. Most do not want to be charged for murder, or die in a robbery. If the victim has a gun then they will most likely run for the hills. If they dont then yes, shoot to wound, if they still try to shoot/harm you then kill them.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:59 am

Self-defense is not murder. I do not see how that is hard to understand. You deliberately came into my house, with a deadly weapon. By doing that, you forfeit your "right to life," or whatever you would like to cell it.
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Postby Dagnia » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:01 am

First I would try to see who it is first. I wouldn't want to find out it is a drunk housemate stumbling in or someone else when it was too late. If it turned out to be a burglar or murderer, I would kill without a second of hesitation.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:01 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Parpolitic Citizens wrote:

I would give him a warning and tell him to drop the weapon. If he does not relent, I would kill him.



You: "Drop your weapon!"

Him: *throws knife/shoots gun/uses weapon*

End Result: You die.

Presumably, he has gotten the drop on the intruder, catching him in a position where he'd be unable to counterattack.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:02 am

The United Citizen Federation wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You doubt that, hmm? Try it out some time, then. It's your life of course.

Robber are not soldiers, their first thought is their life.

Then they should not have robbed a house.
The United Citizen Federation wrote:Most do not want to be charged for murder, or die in a robbery.

Then they should not have robbed a house.
The United Citizen Federation wrote: If the victim has a gun then they will most likely run for the hills.

So that they can live to rob another day? Great idea.
The United Citizen Federation wrote: If they dont then yes, shoot to wound, if they still try to shoot/harm you then kill them.

Who says you will have time before they shoot you?
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Postby The United Citizen Federation » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:02 am

It's not the legality of it, it's the fact that I do not know if i could kill a man and live with it.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:04 am

The United Citizen Federation wrote:It's not the legality of it, it's the fact that I do not know if i could kill a man and live with it.

That's nice. That is your personal choice. That doesn't make it murder.

I'd rather live with having killed a man than be killed because I was scared.
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Postby The United Citizen Federation » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:09 am

Have you ever actually killed someone, or faced a situation where you needed to? I don't think you would be as care free and bold as you think you would.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:11 am

The United Citizen Federation wrote:Have you ever actually killed someone, or faced a situation where you needed to? I don't think you would be as care free and bold as you think you would.

I never said, nor implied, I would be "carefree and bold" about it. I would sincerely hope, however, that I would not be so much of a coward as to let him hurt or kill me and possibly my family.
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:12 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Self-defense is not murder. I do not see how that is hard to understand. You deliberately came into my house, with a deadly weapon. By doing that, you forfeit your "right to life," or whatever you would like to cell it.

The law in most civilised places disagrees with you. Force has to be reasonable. The moment it goes beyond that, then it's murder.
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Postby The United Citizen Federation » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:18 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The United Citizen Federation wrote:Have you ever actually killed someone, or faced a situation where you needed to? I don't think you would be as care free and bold as you think you would.

I never said, nor implied, I would be "carefree and bold" about it. I would sincerely hope, however, that I would not be so much of a coward as to let him hurt or kill me and possibly my family.

It is certainly implied. I am not a coward about it and it seems like you are trying to insinuate an insult towards me. On top of just being unsure if i could live with that, the law may find that self defence was not the case if i simply killed him on sight.
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Postby Safhaven » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:20 am

Of course I'd kill him. Shooting a limb would make me liable for hundreds of thousands of euro's in damages. Anyone breaking in my home at night with the intent of stealing loses all of his rights while on my property. If the Belgian government thinks differently, I honestly don't care. I'd make it into a media case and get some civilian support on my side.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:23 am

Cromarty wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Self-defense is not murder. I do not see how that is hard to understand. You deliberately came into my house, with a deadly weapon. By doing that, you forfeit your "right to life," or whatever you would like to cell it.

The law in most civilised places disagrees with you. Force has to be reasonable. The moment it goes beyond that, then it's murder.

Killing someone who is on my property, holding a deadly weapon, is perfectly reasonable force.
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:26 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Cromarty wrote:The law in most civilised places disagrees with you. Force has to be reasonable. The moment it goes beyond that, then it's murder.

Killing someone who is on my property, holding a deadly weapon, is perfectly reasonable force.

In all circumstances?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:59 am

Cromarty wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Killing someone who is on my property, holding a deadly weapon, is perfectly reasonable force.

In all circumstances?

If they are coming to hurt or kill me or my family, or to steal from my property while having the ability to kill or harm me or my family, then yes.
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