Would you kill an intruder?

[The Republic of Lerasia]

Yeah, see, you're still not doing very well here. Firstly, you're running a little close to the rules about personal attacks (admittedly, I've made the same mistake). Secondly, you can't just act smug and expect to look cool - you have to actually have a point, or people are just going to dismiss you as being called out on your bullshit. In this case, it's readily apparent that you don't have any point, because - as mentioned - you've just misrepresented everything about me and pretended that was some hilarious indictment of my argument.

Third, if you're going to make a post that short, make sure you cut out any excess quotes above it - it makes the comment punchier and pithier, which is basically what you want.

Oh, and there it goes, the personal attack card. Where was that exactly?

You know what never mind. I have stuff to do and innocents to murder. Cheers lads have fun. Oh noez I'm quitting I guess that means that Tubbs "wins" and I "lose" noooooooo!!!

[The Germania Alliance]

He'd get a warning and the order to get on the ground. He may get a second warning a few seconds after, but if he doesn't comply, he's a dead man.

[Tubbsalot]

You know what never mind. I have stuff to do and innocents to murder. Cheers lads have fun. Oh noez I'm quitting I guess that means that Tubbs "wins" and I "lose" noooooooo!!!

A remark that cuts at the heart of my soul, verily.

I am seriously trying to help you here - if you're not doing well, just give up trying to push the sarcasm. It only makes you look worse.

[Big Jim P]

He'd get a warning and the order to get on the ground. He may get a second warning a few seconds after, but if he doesn't comply, he's a dead man.

Yes, this is how it should be done.

[The Germania Alliance]

He'd get a warning and the order to get on the ground. He may get a second warning a few seconds after, but if he doesn't comply, he's a dead man.

Yes, this is how it should be done.

And should he run, I'm tackling him. You don't shoot a man with his back turned.

[Genivaria]

If I was forced to yes.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Shooting at a limb is goofily whimsical, and nonsensical. It would be less likely to disable them, and significantly more likely to miss.

That depends on where you aim. It's not very difficult to hit a thigh for example. Average person also drops from that, if not, just repeat the process for the other leg.

There is a major artery in the thigh, and if you shoot someone in the femoral artery they will bleed out really fast.

[Gun Manufacturers]

They can shoot far enough for the ranges you're likely to see in most houses (the effective range of a 1 ounce 12 gauge slug is 50+ yards).

What if I use a frag 12 ?

If you use Frag-12 against an intruder, I hope you've got some money in your budget for some house remodeling.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

I can only hope that I would not commit such a base and barbaric and cowardly action out of fear. Whether I would actually be strong enough not to is something I could only discover should I ever be in such a situation.

[Stedicules]

I'd aim to wound them, then disarm them. I'd call the police and restrain the intruder, but I wouldn't kill them. I'd want them to live with their mistake for the rest of their life.

[Jetan]

That depends on where you aim. It's not very difficult to hit a thigh for example. Average person also drops from that, if not, just repeat the process for the other leg.

There is a major artery in the thigh, and if you shoot someone in the femoral artery they will bleed out really fast.

True, but they still got much more time and better chances than if you just shot them in chest or stomach though. And if they are armed shooting them in the arm (pun not intentional) or shoulder might not disable them. Obviously you'd need to call ambulance right away, but yrah it's a difficult situation.

[Pope Joan]

I hope I would not kill, but I also hope I could convince him that I was ready and eager to.

A burglar broke into a retired lady's domicile. She stared at him sternly and said "Be careful! Acts 2:38!"

Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins

The intruder dropped his weapon and tools and surrendered!

The lady summoned the police and explained to them "I simply cited a Bible verse urging him to repent, and he did!"

But the burglar cursed "Dammit! I thought she said she had an axe and two .38s!"

[Free South Califas]

Personally, I don't actually want to kill anyone.

Some here seem to be raring for an excuse. Almost makes me think they should bring a gun on their commute and squeeze off a few warning shots in rush hour, just so they don't lose it and start slaughtering people in their apartment complex for looking at them cock-eyed.

[Free South Califas]

From the self defense thread:

Everyone has the right to defend themselves, their property and their loved ones, against unprovoked attack. Anyone not willing to stand up and do so is unworthy of further consideration, let alone respect.

This includes using lethal force if required.

Well, aren't you a charmer. Everyone's gotta do it your way, huh? Individual freedom isn't good enough for you?

[Occupied Deutschland]

Well, hopefully I never have to find out. But if I thought I or my friends/family were in danger? I'd hope I could do it and I'd likely end up aiming to kill. The chest is a much larger target than an arm or a leg, and it's also the target I practice shooting at the most, so I doubt I'd go for a wounding shot in a spur-of-the moment situation like that.

Edit: And no, I have no moral compunctions about doing so either.

[Free South Califas]

threat·en/ˈTHretn/
Verb:
1. State one's intention to take hostile action against someone in retribution for something done or not done.
2. Express one's intention to harm or kill (someone): "the men threatened the customers with a handgun".

You've posted this before. The very act of breaking into someones home armed is an expression of intent to harm or kill.

That is a convenient take for someone who is looking for an excuse to blow someone away. Why not just kill them because you're a stone cold badass and you have the right to revoke anyone's life at any time? Why do you need to couch it in philosophical terms and get our approval for your execution plans?

[Occupied Deutschland]

You've posted this before. The very act of breaking into someones home armed is an expression of intent to harm or kill.

That is a convenient take for someone who is looking for an excuse to blow someone away. Why not just kill them because you're a stone cold badass and you have the right to revoke anyone's life at any time? Why do you need to couch it in philosophical terms and get our approval for your execution plans?

You honestly don't see the difference between shooting a random person and shooting a man who has broken into your home with a weapon?

[Aleckandor]

Assuming that I do actually grow up and live in a house of my own with a family, and at some point in the future, a hostile individual tries to invade my home's safety, I will do everything in my power to take away his ability to cause harm to my family and myself. A well-placed .357 round (or a magnum shell out of 10-gauge) could do the trick. Or just a simple bonk of the flashlight. But I would try to avoid killing them wherever possible, and would probably try to contact authorities to apprehend them after I've neutralized them (assuming I'm capable of doing so).

[San Marie]

Without hesitation or that remorse thing and I'd sleep fine afterwards.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

That is a convenient take for someone who is looking for an excuse to blow someone away. Why not just kill them because you're a stone cold badass and you have the right to revoke anyone's life at any time? Why do you need to couch it in philosophical terms and get our approval for your execution plans?

You honestly don't see the difference between shooting a random person and shooting a man who has broken into your home with a weapon?

There isn't any.

[Vigilantes And Knights]

Depends on what his motivations were. If it was to rob me, I'd just get my stuff back and give him a hard hitting for good measure that he didn't try robbing me again.

If it were to rape a lady in the house, I'd give him a serious beating and crush his "tenders."

If it were to kidnap or murder one of us, like hell I'd kill him.

[Occupied Deutschland]

You honestly don't see the difference between shooting a random person and shooting a man who has broken into your home with a weapon?

There isn't any.

Let's play a game of spot-the-differences!

I dunnow about you, but I see a fair number of differences.
Guess I'm just a base and barbaric coward *shrug* Doesn't bother me much.

[Lemurian Islands]

I'd warn them to drop their weapon while I call the police otherwise I'd shoot them. If they didn't comply and looked ready to attack, I'd shoot a limb, but I don't think I could shoot to kill (at least not on purpose).

[United States of PA]

shoot to kill

[Der Teutoniker]

That depends on where you aim. It's not very difficult to hit a thigh for example. Average person also drops from that, if not, just repeat the process for the other leg.

Not really.

Shooting a torso is still easier than shooting a thigh, and I'll give you a couple reasons why. It's a larger target - that means that there is more surface to hit. It is a target that is less likely to move quickly - human limbs have a tendency of moving faster than the torso itself making the shot harder. Thirdly, the angle of shooting a torso is likely to be less, meaning you have less angular compensation to make up for - this isn't a huge deal, but in a life or death situation, perhaps it's best to go with the safest option.

Additionally, shooting someone in the torso is very likely to drop them. Just as much as shooting them in the leg, I'm sure. Additionally, it is more likely to be disabling than a thigh shot.

So yeah, center mass for the torso shot. It's an easier, and generally superior shot.