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Would you kill an intruder?

Yes
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Id shoot him in a limb
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Id hide & wait till he leaves
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5%
Other(plz explain)
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Postby Meowfoundland » Wed May 30, 2012 3:10 am

No, I'd press the emergency button our security system has and lock myself in the bathroom. I don't trust myself to deal well with high pressure situations.
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Postby Trabzon » Wed May 30, 2012 3:31 am

Not intentionally. I would try to disable them first. But if it happens, it happens.

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Postby Tubbsalot » Wed May 30, 2012 3:34 am

Jesus, a majority of people here would kill outright someone who wasn't physically threatening them while they were better-armed than the robber. Fuck me dead.

The non-lunatic course of action would be to confront them with the gun, wait until they ran, then report it to the police. I mean fucking hell.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 30, 2012 3:39 am

Tubbsalot wrote:Jesus, a majority of people here would kill outright someone who wasn't physically threatening them while they were better-armed than the robber. Fuck me dead.

The non-lunatic course of action would be to confront them with the gun, wait until they ran, then report it to the police. I mean fucking hell.

There's a few non-lunatic options. The safest thing to do would probably be to barricade yourself into a room, call the police, and leave the house if possible.
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Postby Trabzon » Wed May 30, 2012 3:40 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:Jesus, a majority of people here would kill outright someone who wasn't physically threatening them while they were better-armed than the robber. Fuck me dead.

The non-lunatic course of action would be to confront them with the gun, wait until they ran, then report it to the police. I mean fucking hell.

There's a few non-lunatic options. The safest thing to do would probably be to barricade yourself into a room, call the police, and leave the house if possible.


It would be impractical and inefficient though.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 30, 2012 3:45 am

Trabzon wrote:
Ifreann wrote:There's a few non-lunatic options. The safest thing to do would probably be to barricade yourself into a room, call the police, and leave the house if possible.


It would be impractical and inefficient though.

What's impractical and inefficient about it? You're preserving your own ass without much effort.
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Postby Trabzon » Wed May 30, 2012 3:49 am

Ifreann wrote:
Trabzon wrote:
It would be impractical and inefficient though.

What's impractical and inefficient about it? You're preserving your own ass without much effort.


Because by the time you have barricaded yourself and called the police, the burglar would of already left. Therefore making the powers of the police redundant.
As Tubbsalot already mentioned, the smartest thing to do would be to confront and scare them into leaving.

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Postby Cormac250 » Wed May 30, 2012 3:52 am

Shoot to kill, they have come for everything I have worked for and dare to pose a threat to me (and my family if there is one in the scenario) I'll go for the old heart shot, because headshots are too main stream yo 8)

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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Wed May 30, 2012 4:00 am

Tubbsalot wrote:Jesus, a majority of people here would kill outright someone who wasn't physically threatening them while they were better-armed than the robber. Fuck me dead.

The non-lunatic course of action would be to confront them with the gun, wait until they ran, then report it to the police. I mean fucking hell.


If they don't run and charge after you with a large knife? Why the hell should I risk my life for someone who clearly doesn't give a damn about my life?
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Postby Tubbsalot » Wed May 30, 2012 4:01 am

Soviet Russia Republic wrote:If they don't run and charge after you with a large knife?

In the event that your non-violent robber suddenly turns murderous and has absolutely no self-preservation instinct whatsoever, you have a gun. :roll:
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 30, 2012 4:03 am

Trabzon wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What's impractical and inefficient about it? You're preserving your own ass without much effort.


Because by the time you have barricaded yourself and called the police, the burglar would of already left. Therefore making the powers of the police redundant.
As Tubbsalot already mentioned, the smartest thing to do would be to confront and scare them into leaving.

You assume that the intruder is a burglar.

And going to confront them sounds like it could only be more dangerous than staying put or leaving.


Cormac250 wrote:Shoot to kill, they have come for everything I have worked for and dare to pose a threat to me (and my family if there is one in the scenario) I'll go for the old heart shot, because headshots are too main stream yo 8)

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Postby The Cookish States » Wed May 30, 2012 4:05 am

I would likely hear my dog barking, get up and walk to the stairway where I'd ask who it was sleepily. At that point I'd probably turn on my light and see him, then grab my Mossberg 500 from my room and he would probably be gone by the time I returned. If he was still there, he's going to be scared, or he'll die. Either way, he's shitting his pants.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Wed May 30, 2012 4:06 am

Ifreann wrote:You assume that the intruder is a burglar.

And going to confront them sounds like it could only be more dangerous than staying put or leaving.

Mmm well that's a reasonable assumption in this case, because the OP asks you to consider a situation where a robber is stealing your shit.

If this was meant to be realistic, I wouldn't suggest using a gun, because I don't own one. I'd just say you should grab a solid bit of something and make some noise going towards them. Thieves generally not known for their murderous instincts.
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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Wed May 30, 2012 4:07 am

Tubbsalot wrote:
Soviet Russia Republic wrote:If they don't run and charge after you with a large knife?

In the event that your non-violent robber suddenly turns murderous and has absolutely no self-preservation instinct whatsoever, you have a gun. :roll:


He has a large knife in the example, I'm not going be stupid and assume he's not violent. For all I know he could be a complete lunatic. I'm going to assume if he has a large knife, breaking into my house, he is willing to use it. If that criminal didn't want to get killed, than he shouldn't of broken into my house with a weapon, putting my life and my family members lives in danger. I protected my life and he will serve as an example to other possible criminals.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed May 30, 2012 4:07 am

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on topic: I would wound him and wait till the police arrive, but i would kill him if absolutely necessary.


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Postby Tubbsalot » Wed May 30, 2012 4:08 am

Soviet Russia Republic wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:In the event that your non-violent robber suddenly turns murderous and has absolutely no self-preservation instinct whatsoever, you have a gun. :roll:

He has a large knife in the example, I'm not going be stupid and assume he's not violent. For all I know he could be a complete lunatic. I'm going to assume if he has a large knife, breaking into my house, he is willing to use it. If that criminal didn't want to get killed, than he shouldn't of broken into my house with a weapon, putting my life and my family members lives in danger. I protected my life and he will serve as an example to other possible criminals.

Did you even bother reading my post? Let me reiterate: in the event that your non-violent robber suddenly turns murderous and has absolutely no self-preservation instinct whatsoever, you have a gun.

Your flippant dismissal of the seriousness of, er, murder, doesn't do you any favours.
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Postby Trabzon » Wed May 30, 2012 4:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
Trabzon wrote:
Because by the time you have barricaded yourself and called the police, the burglar would of already left. Therefore making the powers of the police redundant.
As Tubbsalot already mentioned, the smartest thing to do would be to confront and scare them into leaving.

You assume that the intruder is a burglar.

And going to confront them sounds like it could only be more dangerous than staying put or leaving.


It doesn't matter what the intruder's intentions are. Burglar or otherwise, it makes no difference to the situation.
If you have a weapon confronting them would be a sensible move. However, yes, confronting an intruder unarmed is potentially dangerous. Of course hiding and calling the police would be safer in that scenario.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed May 30, 2012 4:09 am

I'd first call the police and see what it happens from there. I would only shoot if it was my last option, because I cannot possibly control what's going to happen if I do.

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Postby Tagmatium » Wed May 30, 2012 4:11 am

A lot of Internet Tough Guys in this thread.

As to the example, I wouldn't know until it happened.

Personally, I don't actually want to kill anyone.
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Postby The Cookish States » Wed May 30, 2012 4:13 am

Tagmatium wrote:A lot of Internet Tough Guys in this thread.

As to the example, I wouldn't know until it happened.

Personally, I don't actually want to kill anyone.

Yeah, I mean it'd be a cool story and all..I think people just get too hyped up over justified murder. If he was a danger, hell yeah he's dead. If he gets down when I tell him to, I'll let him go so the cops don't find the dead bodies in my fridge ;)

(In all reality, I just wouldn't want the cops all around my house asking questions and making me feel like an idiot for a guy that broke in and didn't steal anything.)
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Postby Grand Antarctica » Wed May 30, 2012 4:13 am

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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 30, 2012 4:15 am

Tubbsalot wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You assume that the intruder is a burglar.

And going to confront them sounds like it could only be more dangerous than staying put or leaving.

Mmm well that's a reasonable assumption in this case, because the OP asks you to consider a situation where a robber is stealing your shit.

Yes, the OP's scenario does seem to assume that you've caught the intruder in the act of robbing your shit. I was speaking more generally.

If this was meant to be realistic, I wouldn't suggest using a gun, because I don't own one. I'd just say you should grab a solid bit of something and make some noise going towards them. Thieves generally not known for their murderous instincts.

No, not generally. All the same, I'd prefer not to give them the chance to prove themselves an outlier.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Wed May 30, 2012 4:15 am

Grand Antarctica wrote:Head Shot.

Have fun explaining to the police about the dead person killed execution-style with a shot to the back of the head.

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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Wed May 30, 2012 4:15 am

Tubbsalot wrote:
Soviet Russia Republic wrote:He has a large knife in the example, I'm not going be stupid and assume he's not violent. For all I know he could be a complete lunatic. I'm going to assume if he has a large knife, breaking into my house, he is willing to use it. If that criminal didn't want to get killed, than he shouldn't of broken into my house with a weapon, putting my life and my family members lives in danger. I protected my life and he will serve as an example to other possible criminals.

Did you even bother reading my post? Let me reiterate: in the event that your non-violent robber suddenly turns murderous and has absolutely no self-preservation instinct whatsoever, you have a gun.

Your flippant dismissal of the seriousness of, er, murder, doesn't do you any favours.


Funny, I don't think you read mine.

Oh, I'd be heart broken for defending myself and family members in the house against some idiot breaking in with a weapon. So heart broken.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Wed May 30, 2012 4:17 am

Soviet Russia Republic wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:Did you even bother reading my post? Let me reiterate: in the event that your non-violent robber suddenly turns murderous and has absolutely no self-preservation instinct whatsoever, you have a gun.

Your flippant dismissal of the seriousness of, er, murder, doesn't do you any favours.

Funny, I don't think you read mine.

Oh, I'd be heart broken for defending myself and family members in the house against some idiot breaking in with a weapon. So heart broken.

:roll: Good to know, but since you were talking about shooting someone who hadn't threatened you in any way, that's an irrelevant comment. I also note you've failed to explain why my suggested strategy (of not shooting them dead immediately) would be insufficient.
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