Would you kill an intruder?

[Edward Richtofen]

Former Homeland Security officer
and Punta Gorda police department

Ah, I never went to Punta Gorda that I recall, thus it's unlikely we ever met.

you serve?

[Galloism]

Ah, I never went to Punta Gorda that I recall, thus it's unlikely we ever met.

you serve?

A burnout, you might say.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

All violence is intrinsically immoral.

Nope.

It really is.

[Neo Arcad]

I would kill an intruder even if he wasn't doing anything. Heck, I'd kill him if he wasn't armed. If he's willing to break into my house, he'd best be ready to get glued back together... IN HELL! And I'd revel in his death, knowing that I was preventing him from committing further crimes or else draining my taxpayer funds in jail.

Good luck explaining that one to the jury.

"Did you fear for your life?"

"No, I did not. He was unarmed."

"Then why'd you kill him?"

"Because he was criminal scum trespassing in my house."

If you're lucky, they'll let you get away with a mitigated manslaughter rap.

lolno

Obviously, I wouldn't spin it like that. He was attempting to attack me, he must not have seen my gun or something, and I just had to think fast and stop him, so I put one through his skull. Who's going to present contrary eyewitness accounts? Deadington McSkullfucked? I don't think so. I'd get off with self-defense easily.

[Galloism]

Good luck explaining that one to the jury.

"Did you fear for your life?"

"No, I did not. He was unarmed."

"Then why'd you kill him?"

"Because he was criminal scum trespassing in my house."

If you're lucky, they'll let you get away with a mitigated manslaughter rap.

lolno

Obviously, I wouldn't spin it like that. He was attempting to attack me, he must not have seen my gun or something, and I just had to think fast and stop him, so I put one through his skull. Who's going to present contrary eyewitness accounts? Deadington McSkullfucked? I don't think so. I'd get off with self-defense easily.

And have to live with the knowledge of what you did.

The investigation, trial (if it occurs), and press is the easy part.

The hard part is where you drink just to sleep because you can't sleep without it.

[Trollgaard]

Nope.

It really is.

No, it isn't.

[Trotskylvania]

Good luck explaining that one to the jury.

"Did you fear for your life?"

"No, I did not. He was unarmed."

"Then why'd you kill him?"

"Because he was criminal scum trespassing in my house."

If you're lucky, they'll let you get away with a mitigated manslaughter rap.

lolno

Obviously, I wouldn't spin it like that. He was attempting to attack me, he must not have seen my gun or something, and I just had to think fast and stop him, so I put one through his skull. Who's going to present contrary eyewitness accounts? Deadington McSkullfucked? I don't think so. I'd get off with self-defense easily.

Yeah, I'm sure they're going to believe that you legitimately feared for your life, when the forensic evidence will likely show that the person was not actually trying to attack you, and was unarmed.

But that'll be after the police have you on a spitroast for eight hours, and work you over for even the slightest bit of fabrication.

[Farnhamia]

lolno

Obviously, I wouldn't spin it like that. He was attempting to attack me, he must not have seen my gun or something, and I just had to think fast and stop him, so I put one through his skull. Who's going to present contrary eyewitness accounts? Deadington McSkullfucked? I don't think so. I'd get off with self-defense easily.

Yeah, I'm sure they're going to believe that you legitimately feared for your life, when the forensic evidence will likely show that the person was not actually trying to attack you, and was unarmed.

But that'll be after the police have you on a spitroast for eight hours, and work you over for even the slightest bit of fabrication.

For eight hours? People like this will go to pieces in the back of the cruiser on the way to the station.

[New Rogernomics]

No, unless they are members of the Westboro Baptist Church.

[Bornisia]

Yes I would, being that they probably don't have any good reason to be coming into my home. That, and I probably would not know them, thus I would have to assume their intentions would not be beneficial to me or my family.

[Free South Califas]

This is the beauty of combat operations in the FMF........ they handle their own problems their way. Simply put, if you were in my Unit and i observed you "refusing to shoot the poor suckers with the other uniform on" i would make it my business to find an opportunity to waste your fucking ass. Then you could "avert your eyes" from six feet under all day long. My Marines are not gonna die in a firefight due to your inaction/moral objections.

I'm not familiar with what FMF stands for, but in any first world military, you would be court martialed and most likely imprisoned for the rest of your life.

But hey--he has god on his side.

Maybe this is one of those pentagon play-accounts we've heard about, where DoD interns pretend to be trigger-happy jingos and try to make it seem like a multitude of real people live their lives this way.

Either way, who put your soldiers at risk in the first place, Spiritwolf? Might I ask, why would they have been in a Vietnamese jungle, not eating cheese puffs on a couch in Ohio?

[New Embossia]

Yes.

[Hallistar]

Well fuck of course if he has a large knife I'd shoot him dead. Without a knife, I'd probably just fire a warning shot.

[The Nuclear Fist]

I'm not a psychopath, so no, I wouldn't.

Now, assuming that he has resisted my orders to get on the ground and slide his weapon(s) my way, and he has instead decided to attack me, then I would attempt to shoot him in the stomach to maximize the actual chances of hitting him.

[Aquophia]

I'd use to say that I would just blast his kneecap off or something, but I think the unwritten rule that an intruder would be shot/attacked by a dog acts as a pretty good deterrent for home invasion. To say that that is not an option or you would not consider it in a state of fear would probably drive up home invasions.

[New Heathera]

It depends really. If I can disable them without killing them, I'd go for that. But if disabling them isn't an option, then I'm not holding back.

[The Nuclear Fist]

I'd use to say that I would just blast his kneecap off or something, but I think the unwritten rule that an intruder would be shot/attacked by a dog acts as a pretty good deterrent for home invasion. To say that that is not an option or you would not consider it in a state of fear would probably drive up home invasions.

The primary motivator for not breaking into my home and stealing my property is that I don't own anything worth the work you're going to put in burgling my home.

[The Addams Family]

I would shoot the intruder...If I had fire-arm training, I would aim for the arm above the hand holding the weapon.

[New Sapienta]

If armed, without hesistation.

If unarmed, would fire a warning shot and tell him to GTFO.

[Cannot think of a name]

I don't go around trying to find scenarios where I would be 'willing' to kill someone.

Must be something wrong with me.

[Azakhia]

Even before the castle laws became so popular this last couple of years...

If a person has the balls to break into my home when he knows that my family and I are at home, then he will have the balls to hurt me. Thus....

He has shown an intent to committ a felony by breaking into an occupied home at night...

Knowingly breaking into an occupied home, he has put me and my wife in a situation that we are in fear for our lives, and the lives of our children, thus...

Knowing that when you decide to use a firearm, you never shoot to wound, you shoot to kill, thus...

I will keep firing my gun until the threat is negated (he drops dead), then I will call the cops.

Remembering something that the Hell's Angels said many years ago, "Two persons can keep a secret when one of them is dead".

[Azakhia]

I don't go around trying to find scenarios where I would be 'willing' to kill someone.

Must be something wrong with me.

I don't go looking for them either. Just that I refuse to be a victim, since in the US we are not entitled to police protection.

[United State of America]

To be honest, I don't know. I highly doubt that I'd kill him. I have no idea how I'd react in such a situation and don't want to find out.

[Big Jim P]

No, I did not say they had to do it my way. Just that if they aren't willing to step up and defend their own, then they do not deserve (nor will they receive) my consideration or respect.

Ah, thanks for clarifying. You said "any" consideration or respect earlier. Pretty different IMHO, sorry if this comes across as nitpicking.

Any consideration from me. Or any other adult.

[Azakhia]

To be honest, I don't know. I highly doubt that I'd kill him. I have no idea how I'd react in such a situation and don't want to find out.

Ask any police officer, they are not trained to shoot to wound. They are trained to shoot to incapacitate or negate the threat. In other words, you shoot to kill. Shooting to wound is the stuff of movies. And keep in mind, the same way that a wounded animal can be more dangerous, so would a wounded criminal with intent to get away.