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Postby Divair » Tue May 29, 2012 12:12 pm

Melas wrote:
Divair wrote:Yes, the USA would win. Get real for a second and snap back into reality. I don't care how anti-USA you are (I am as well), but you HAVE to give them credit for having the strongest military. The USN can alone take on most of the world. Who the hell can stand up to 11 aircraft carriers with a few more in production?

And this is all irrelevant anyway because Russia and China won't intervene.


well i am anti-usa but i do recognise that they do have a good military.i cant believe that they could pick on russia and china at the same time.... imagine how many troops russia and china would have if they mobilized,the economy would be fucked everything would be fucked but so would the U.S and face it they are the 2 biggest nations in the word its not gonna be easy to win them

No, it wouldn't be easy, and no one would profit. That's why it won't happen. There will most probably be an Israel-Iran war (unfortunately. All I can hope is that it ends swiftly or I leave before it starts), but the chances of Russia or China intervening are astronomically small.

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Postby Melas » Tue May 29, 2012 12:13 pm

Divair wrote:
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well i am anti-usa but i do recognise that they do have a good military.i cant believe that they could pick on russia and china at the same time.... imagine how many troops russia and china would have if they mobilized,the economy would be fucked everything would be fucked but so would the U.S and face it they are the 2 biggest nations in the word its not gonna be easy to win them

No, it wouldn't be easy, and no one would profit. That's why it won't happen. There will most probably be an Israel-Iran war (unfortunately. All I can hope is that it ends swiftly or I leave before it starts), but the chances of Russia or China intervening are astronomically small.


and even if they do, we would fall into WW3 since most likely N.A.T.O would take action (north atlantic terrorist organisation)
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Postby New Abooutland » Tue May 29, 2012 12:16 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
Fedeledland wrote:Ahmedinajad has stated his intention to kill all the Jews.

To wipe Israel off the map.

I wish to inform you that third-world sabre rattling =/= actual foreign policy. Besides, it's not like he actually has any power over Iran's foreign policy.


that is the best plan ever and while hes at it wipe saudi off the map as well
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Postby Divair » Tue May 29, 2012 12:17 pm

New Abooutland wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:To wipe Israel off the map.

I wish to inform you that third-world sabre rattling =/= actual foreign policy. Besides, it's not like he actually has any power over Iran's foreign policy.


that is the best plan ever and while hes at it wipe saudi off the map as well

So basically just get rid of the Middle East?


*Shrug* Meh, get me out of here and I'd agree instantly. This region has been in a constant state of warfare since.. well, forever.

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Postby Melas » Tue May 29, 2012 12:18 pm

Divair wrote:
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that is the best plan ever and while hes at it wipe saudi off the map as well

So basically just get rid of the Middle East?


*Shrug* Meh, get me out of here and I'd agree instantly. This region has been in a constant state of warfare since.. well, forever.


i dont get it
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Postby Divair » Tue May 29, 2012 12:19 pm

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Divair wrote:So basically just get rid of the Middle East?


*Shrug* Meh, get me out of here and I'd agree instantly. This region has been in a constant state of warfare since.. well, forever.


i dont get it

You don't get what?

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Postby Milks Empire » Tue May 29, 2012 12:19 pm

Divair wrote:
New Abooutland wrote:that is the best plan ever and while hes at it wipe saudi off the map as well

So basically just get rid of the Middle East?
*Shrug* Meh, get me out of here and I'd agree instantly. This region has been in a constant state of warfare since.. well, forever.

Anywhere with any kind of strategic importance to anyone is going to be hotly contested. If not for trade routes, then for oil, in the case of the Middle East.

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Postby New Abooutland » Tue May 29, 2012 12:20 pm

Divair wrote:
New Abooutland wrote:
that is the best plan ever and while hes at it wipe saudi off the map as well

So basically just get rid of the Middle East?


*Shrug* Meh, get me out of here and I'd agree instantly. This region has been in a constant state of warfare since.. well, forever.


because...................... of israel and the USA!
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Postby Melas » Tue May 29, 2012 12:22 pm

Divair wrote:
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i dont get it

You don't get what?


so you are living somewhere in the middle east and you want to leave? soz im kinda dizzy today and my brain doesnt work well (i blame the zombie thread)
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Postby Divair » Tue May 29, 2012 12:22 pm

New Abooutland wrote:
Divair wrote:So basically just get rid of the Middle East?


*Shrug* Meh, get me out of here and I'd agree instantly. This region has been in a constant state of warfare since.. well, forever.


because...................... of israel and the USA!

Erm, no. Look back through history. Persia, Greece, Rome, Muhammad's armies..

The Middle East is a region of war, no matter who you put in it.

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Postby Divair » Tue May 29, 2012 12:22 pm

Melas wrote:
Divair wrote:You don't get what?


so you are living somewhere in the middle east and you want to leave? soz im kinda dizzy today and my brain doesnt work well (i blame the zombie thread)

Look at my sig.

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Postby Melas » Tue May 29, 2012 12:23 pm

Divair wrote:
Melas wrote:
so you are living somewhere in the middle east and you want to leave? soz im kinda dizzy today and my brain doesnt work well (i blame the zombie thread)

Look at my sig.


oh ok soz
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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Tue May 29, 2012 12:25 pm

Divair wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Ahmadinejad won't be the president anymore next year.

As if Ahmandinejad had any power in the first place.

The Supreme Leader Khameini is basically the leader of that nation.

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Postby Divair » Tue May 29, 2012 12:26 pm

The Jahistic Unified Republic wrote:
Divair wrote:As if Ahmandinejad had any power in the first place.

The Supreme Leader Khameini is basically the leader of that nation.

He is the leader. That's basically the point of their political system.

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Postby Spetznaz Assault Teams » Tue May 29, 2012 12:30 pm

Divair wrote:
New Abooutland wrote:
because...................... of israel and the USA!

Erm, no. Look back through history. Persia, Greece, Rome, Muhammad's armies..

The Middle East is a region of war, no matter who you put in it.


Not to mention the only time the Arabs stop killing eachother is when there are Christians or Jews to kill [/not exaggerating]
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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Tue May 29, 2012 12:31 pm

Divair wrote:
The Jahistic Unified Republic wrote:The Supreme Leader Khameini is basically the leader of that nation.

He is the leader. That's basically the point of their political system.

Being President of Iran is like being a Senator in North Korea, you can act like you have power, but you really don't.

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Postby Mesoland » Tue May 29, 2012 1:05 pm

New Abooutland wrote:
Divair wrote:So basically just get rid of the Middle East?


*Shrug* Meh, get me out of here and I'd agree instantly. This region has been in a constant state of warfare since.. well, forever.


because...................... of israel and the USA!

I assume you're referring to the USA's intervention in the region, not their geographical position in North America?

And I don't understand how you can entirely blame the USA and Israel?

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Postby Sedgistan » Tue May 29, 2012 1:09 pm

New Abooutland wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:To wipe Israel off the map.

I wish to inform you that third-world sabre rattling =/= actual foreign policy. Besides, it's not like he actually has any power over Iran's foreign policy.


that is the best plan ever and while hes at it wipe saudi off the map as well

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Tue May 29, 2012 1:13 pm

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Freiheit Reich wrote:Iran. I dislike their values and country but if we have the right to have nukes they should also. We need to respect other nations' sovereignty. If Iran uses their nuke than we should punish them. They have reason to worry. If the USA invades Iraq without just cause than why should our words matter. Iran might worry about the USA invading them. After Iraq the USA is no longer "a good guy." Ron Paul's philosophy that would ban "premeptive attack" is the fairest philosophy.

Fine, you explain to the dead how you punished Iran for using their nukes. Be sure to mention that you gave up trying to stop them from getting them in the first place. I'm sure the dead will want to know that.


So I guess you are fine with thousands of dead US soldiers and Iraqis caused by our "preemptive attack" based on lies? Do you believe the USA is a saint and will never again attack a country with just cause? Iran has the right to have nukes as a way to defend themselves from attacks like the Iraq War. Also, we did not attack the Soviet Union for having nukes even though they were much more dangerous and powerful than Iran is. Pakistan also has nukes, should we attack them or are they an innocent country that deserves to have nukes? What gives the USA the right to tell other countries what to do within their borders?

Yes, people will die if Iran launches a nuke but people will also die if we attack them for building one. Should Iran have the right to attack us because we have nukes? Your view sounds very unfair.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Tue May 29, 2012 1:14 pm

Israel. At least they have some humanity in their government.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue May 29, 2012 1:24 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Fine, you explain to the dead how you punished Iran for using their nukes. Be sure to mention that you gave up trying to stop them from getting them in the first place. I'm sure the dead will want to know that.


So I guess you are fine with thousands of dead US soldiers and Iraqis caused by our "preemptive attack" based on lies? Do you believe the USA is a saint and will never again attack a country with just cause? Iran has the right to have nukes as a way to defend themselves from attacks like the Iraq War. Also, we did not attack the Soviet Union for having nukes even though they were much more dangerous and powerful than Iran is. Pakistan also has nukes, should we attack them or are they an innocent country that deserves to have nukes? What gives the USA the right to tell other countries what to do within their borders?

Yes, people will die if Iran launches a nuke but people will also die if we attack them for building one. Should Iran have the right to attack us because we have nukes? Your view sounds very unfair.

You guess wrong. I didn't say we should attack them. I suppose I should have been more clear. We should do everything we can diplomatically to keep Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. As for being able to defend themselves, who is going to attack them? Iraq is not capable of doing so. Iran has considerable influence in Iraq now, thanks to the US's misguided actions. Afghanistan? Yeah, right. The Saudis? I doubt it.

And yes, sorry, the US has a perfect right to tell people what to do. People from other countries are constantly telling us what we should be doing within our borders. It's practically the national pastime here.

Your view sounds very short-sighted.
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Postby South Asia Minor » Tue May 29, 2012 1:30 pm

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Postby Melas » Tue May 29, 2012 1:39 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:


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god i suck at editing.anyways what i want to say is that the U.S has absolutely NO RIGHT to tell other countries what to do
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Postby Romatticus » Tue May 29, 2012 1:40 pm

I'm on the side that wants everyone to get along and for the world to not get blown to hell.
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Postby Mandicoria » Tue May 29, 2012 1:43 pm

Eh I'm on Israel's side, it has a right to be a country. I hate on how Iran thinks it can take on all the nations with tough militaries. (excluding Russia and China)
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