Who's side are you on Israel or Iran?

[Nazis in Space]

I support finding the last living descendant of the Achaemenid dynasty, dissolving both, Iran and Israel, and rebuilding the ancient Persian empire under Cyrus II.

With zoroastrianism as majority religion, of course.

Yes, because all the Jews will be thrilled to be forced to enter an empire with Zoroastrianism. Never mind that they were supposed to get a nation where they finally wouldn't have people bossing them around and oppressing them.

Historically, they were happier under the Persians than they were under pretty much any other empire that's ruled them historically. So I'm sure they'll be fine.

If they're not, well, too bad. The Behistun inscription needs some updates, anyway.

[Fedeledland]

I support finding the last living descendant of the Achaemenid dynasty, dissolving both, Iran and Israel, and rebuilding the ancient Persian empire under Cyrus II.

With zoroastrianism as majority religion, of course.

I agree.

[Lahuland]

I stand for Israel. Iran is sometimes attacked by a terrorist group (Jundullah). But, Iran hates the USA and Israel more than terrorists. Even Iran always blames the USA and Israel. You can search it on many websites. It's ironic and ridiculous. Belief makes people irrational.

[Costa Fiero]

Yes there is no an agreement signed by Israel and Iran just like Treaty of Guarantee which could justify a possible action of Israel.

So there is no agreement so how can Israel violate it?

When did I say something like that ? my country shares the same sect with them but I know that our people are not sectarianist. But those brutal kingdoms are totally sectarianist and they don't recognize any other sect rather than Wahhabism or brutal Sunnism.

Aparently describing Sunni Islam as "brutal" comes close to calling it "evil". As I said, just because someone has different religious beliefs to you doesn't make them bad.

I believe that Iran knows how to manage a war. Israel was brave enough to attack those shitty countries in the past, why can't they attack now in the same way ? they have no balls to do that ?

Look at the countries around Israel. Jordan sees no point in delcaring war, Lebanon can't even maintain internal security, Syria is too busy slaughtering its own people to care about what Israel is up to and Egypt can't fight because it knows aid from the US and the West will stop and therefore bring the country on its knees. Iran has no projective capabilities so all it could do is fire dated missiles which Israel can easily defeat with its latest anti-missile installations.

Fact is, all Iran can do know is simply claim that its rockets can reach Israel when anyone who knows anything about them will know that this is false.

I will not buy it.

Figures.

[Marshmellowstan]

Iran, we need to preserve our diminishing supplies of comical dictators.

[Milks Empire]

Iran, we need to preserve our diminishing supplies of comical dictators.

Perfect AQ material!

[Cameroi]

baha'u'llah's. which is both and neither. (not surprisingly baha'is are hated by the government in iran, where they origenated, and while great show is made of tollerating them in israel, there are many signs this is neither total nor unconditional)

[The Horror Channel]

Israel is way more trouble than it's worth.

[Cameroi]

Israel is way more trouble than it's worth.

both are. the only reason america's nose is poked into the region is our addiction to oil. that and the egotistical nonsense of controlling the entire planet, which ISN'T how its going to be unified anyway.

as for who's side I'M on. well i've already answered that. i'm on the side of real people, places and things, everywhere, and not governments that put ideology or national glory ahead of them.

[Hypparchia]

I'm entirely on Israel's side because they are a pro-Western nation and I could never support a radical Islamic theocracy like Iran.

But you could support a country with radical Jewish ministers in the cabinet ? You're a funny guy, Sully.

But seriously, I'm for neither. Perfect outcome would be if they destroy each other and leave everyone else be.

[Disserbia]

Who is more reactionary and irrational, Israel or Iran? Sometimes its hard to tell, and when its not I attribute it to the fact that I've lived in the western world since the age of 9. There are many reasons for Israel to be paranoid in the region it is in, there are many reasons for those around it to be angry and paranoid as well. If you can't acknowledge this you have no business thinking about this issue in the first place.

[The Greater Persian Republic]

How about Israel and america stops being so paranoid and launch another coup on Iran like the 1953 coup when they overthrew the first democratically elected iranian prime minister and started the whole thing.

[Pope Joan]

There is a dangerous rogue state in the Mideast, secretly expanding its horde of nuclear weapons, constantly preying upon its neighbors.

When Lebanon caught a couple of its spies, it retaliated by destroying Lebanese beaches, hotels and orchards.

Because, you know, those were such obvious military targets.

And then there was the other nasty neighbor which was known to have weapons of mass destruction, so it had to be invaded by a docile ally of this rogue state.

Too bad the international community is too cowardly to intervene there and restore regional stability.

[Disserbia]

funny guy...

I hope you aren't implying China and Russia are going to launch WW3 over Iran.

Over Iran.

I think you seem to be forgetting the series of events that led to the 1967 war. I think if Iran starts it they are on their own...but I'm also pretty sure that Israel is the one known for pre-emptive attacks, and if they do attack and the US supports them Russia and China may take that as a sign of the west trying to continue to enforce their "hegemony" through military means. I don't think Russia or China would appreciate that very much, I don't think they'd do anything to the US but they might come to Iran's aid more covertly, or at least acknowledge their right to retaliate.

[The Greater Persian Republic]

I hope you aren't implying China and Russia are going to launch WW3 over Iran.

Over Iran.

I think you seem to be forgetting the series of events that led to the 1967 war. I think if Iran starts it they are on their own...but I'm also pretty sure that Israel is the one known for pre-emptive attacks, and if they do attack and the US supports them Russia and China may take that as a sign of the west trying to continue to enforce their "hegemony" through military means. I don't think Russia or China would appreciate that very much, I don't think they'd do anything to the US but they might come to Iran's aid more covertly, or at least acknowledge their right to retaliate.

Good Point but the west wants Iran's oil and everybody knows that. And what do you guys think would happen if the west attempted another coup in Iran like in 1953 July coup ??

[Azania]

When the choices are an apartheid state on the one hand, and an Islamic theocracy on the other, how can anyone support either?

[Disserbia]

I think you seem to be forgetting the series of events that led to the 1967 war. I think if Iran starts it they are on their own...but I'm also pretty sure that Israel is the one known for pre-emptive attacks, and if they do attack and the US supports them Russia and China may take that as a sign of the west trying to continue to enforce their "hegemony" through military means. I don't think Russia or China would appreciate that very much, I don't think they'd do anything to the US but they might come to Iran's aid more covertly, or at least acknowledge their right to retaliate.

Good Point but the west wants Iran's oil and everybody knows that. And what do you guys think would happen if the west attempted another coup in Iran like in 1953 July coup ??

I don't think the west will try anything like that Israel maybe.

When the choices are an apartheid state on the one hand, and an Islamic theocracy on the other, how can anyone support either?

Thank you for calling it what it is.

[Divair]

When the choices are an apartheid state on the one hand, and an Islamic theocracy on the other, how can anyone support either?

Well, you see, when you live in one you don't really have a choice.

[Ovisterra]

Neither. Both exploit their huge potential to be unethical and stupid to each other at every opportunity.

[Yahkima]

Oh gods, do I really have to choose?

Israel, I guess. Though, if Iran ever gets its act together, Iran. Certainly Iran is capable of being a much better nation if it wishes to be. I don't think Israel can ever escape the problems that are innate to the Zionist project (though I'd love to be proven wrong about this.)

In the meantime... Turkey. Let's go with them.

[Pootania]

OH GOD either the nazi state, or the peaceful islamic nation of Iran hmm TOUGH CHOICE

Why would ANYONE support israel, they are a nazi state oppressing the Palestinians, there is a silent holocaust nobody is talking about because the jews control the media!! Iran only wants nukes to defend themselves from Israel's muslim massacre crusade WAKE UP PEOPLE

[Farnhamia]

OH GOD either the nazi state, or the peaceful islamic nation of Iran hmm TOUGH CHOICE

Why would ANYONE support israel, they are a nazi state oppressing the Palestinians, there is a silent holocaust nobody is talking about because the jews control the media!! Iran only wants nukes to defend themselves from Israel's muslim massacre crusade WAKE UP PEOPLE

Troll harder, dear. 1/10.

[Divair]

OH GOD either the nazi state, or the peaceful islamic nation of Iran hmm TOUGH CHOICE

Why would ANYONE support israel, they are a nazi state oppressing the Palestinians, there is a silent holocaust nobody is talking about because the jews control the media!! Iran only wants nukes to defend themselves from Israel's muslim massacre crusade WAKE UP PEOPLE

Troll harder, dear. 1/10.

What if I told you that feeding the troll only makes it worse.

[Farnhamia]

Troll harder, dear. 1/10.

What if I told you that feeding the troll only makes it worse.

I would look at you as if you were mad to think that I didn't know that. Have you no vices you simply cannot resist? Know that if you answer that you do not, I am quite prepared to pronounce you not human.

[Freiheit Reich]

Iran. I dislike their values and country but if we have the right to have nukes they should also. We need to respect other nations' sovereignty. If Iran uses their nuke than we should punish them. They have reason to worry. If the USA invades Iraq without just cause than why should our words matter. Iran might worry about the USA invading them. After Iraq the USA is no longer "a good guy." Ron Paul's philosophy that would ban "premeptive attack" is the fairest philosophy.