Americans Becoming More Pro-Life

[Demen 2]

a pro-lifer and a supporter of the death penalty? that is something you don't see everyday

Actually it's very common, and easily defensible.

Killing violent, aggressive criminals is not the same as killing innocent babies.

You're not a pro-lifer then.


You're pro-birth.

[Genivaria]

So, yes. An Orc God.

A perfect all powerful being that ever has to use violence is bad at his job and needs to drop a descriptor or two.

A perfect being that gives finite chances to imperfect beings is apparently the factory irregular version of perfect.

Who says he is bad at his job? Do you even know what his job is? Once you know every little detail about everyone, everything, how the universe works, all the hows, whys, whens, whats, who's, and etc... then come back to me about judging the actions and character of God.

And I never said that he us a specific number of outs before whipping us... As long as we are willing to try, repent, and learn from our mistakes, he will show us mercy and grace, but if we refuse, that's when we have to worry. He is very slow to anger, but when he does get angry (and he does on occasion)... you really do not want to be the one that anger is directed at.

I've read about his idea of 'mercy', no thank you.

[Church of Thomas Hayden]

So, yes. An Orc God.

A perfect all powerful being that ever has to use violence is bad at his job and needs to drop a descriptor or two.

A perfect being that gives finite chances to imperfect beings is apparently the factory irregular version of perfect.

Who says he is bad at his job? Do you even know what his job is? Once you know every little detail about everyone, everything, how the universe works, all the hows, whys, whens, whats, who's, and etc... then come back to me about judging the actions and character of God.

And I never said that he us a specific number of outs before whipping us... As long as we are willing to try, repent, and learn from our mistakes, he will show us mercy and grace, but if we refuse, that's when we have to worry. He is very slow to anger, but when he does get angry (and he does on occasion)... you really do not want to be the one that anger is directed at.

Going by your description, he's a blood god.

Even (most) humans know that cruel punishment is wrong, like torturing someone forever for making a different choice and not taking "the blood".

There's a word for people with only two switches "Total love verses violent anger".

They're best often medicated.

[Nocturnylvania]

Who says he is bad at his job? Do you even know what his job is? Once you know every little detail about everyone, everything, how the universe works, all the hows, whys, whens, whats, who's, and etc... then come back to me about judging the actions and character of God.

And I never said that he us a specific number of outs before whipping us... As long as we are willing to try, repent, and learn from our mistakes, he will show us mercy and grace, but if we refuse, that's when we have to worry. He is very slow to anger, but when he does get angry (and he does on occasion)... you really do not want to be the one that anger is directed at.

Going by your description, he's a blood god.

Even (most) humans know that cruel punishment is wrong, like torturing someone forever for making a different choice and not taking "the blood".

There's a word for people with only two switches "Total love verses violent anger".

They're best often medicated.

Lord Cthulhu, Khorne, and the orc gods are more honest.
Also Yaweh has a double standard on his moral code so while YOU would be wrong to torture someone forever, it's perfectly acceptable for him to do so...somehow. He who makes the rules is allowed to break the rules I suppose.

[Genivaria]

Going by your description, he's a blood god.

Even (most) humans know that cruel punishment is wrong, like torturing someone forever for making a different choice and not taking "the blood".

There's a word for people with only two switches "Total love verses violent anger".

They're best often medicated.

Lord Cthulhu, Khorne, and the orc gods are more honest.
Also Yaweh has a double standard on his moral code so while YOU would be wrong to torture someone forever, it's perfectly acceptable for him to do so...somehow. He who makes the rules is allowed to break the rules I suppose.

"Well, when the President does it that means that it is not illegal."
— Richard Nixon, 1977 interview with David Frost

[Church of Thomas Hayden]

Lord Cthulhu, Khorne, and the orc gods are more honest.
Yaweh has a double standard on his moral code so while YOU would be wrong to torture someone forever, it's perfectly acceptable for him to do so...somehow. He who makes the rules is allowed to break the rules I suppose, is what the bible is trying to tell us.

Well...

...if you HAD to find a way to justify a glaring hypocrisy...

...it WOULD be useful to claim that you had an all powerful God that works in mysterious ways who will tell us right from wrong...

...but they wouldn't....would they?

[Kronikta]

I've read about his idea of 'mercy', no thank you.

Whatever floats your boat... We'll all find out the real truth eventually, and some of us are bound to not like it. I'll keep my faith with my God, King, and Heavenly Father, who sacrificed his life (and rose again) so I may be free from the slavery of sin and so I may come to worship him... and you can keep your faith in your little pile of magical ooze that you claim you came from .

Turtles all the way down!

Kudos for those who understand the reference.

[Genivaria]

I've read about his idea of 'mercy', no thank you.

Whatever floats your boat... We'll all find out the real truth eventually, and some of us are bound to not like it.

And here come the threats of eternal torture, classy.

I've read about his idea of 'mercy', no thank you.

and you can keep your faith in your little pile of magical ooze that you claim you came from .

The fuck are you talking about?

[Yuonela]

Whatever floats your boat... We'll all find out the real truth eventually, and some of us are bound to not like it.

And here come the threats of eternal torture, classy.

Lol.

[Hallistar]

I haven't read the thing in a while, but didn't God order at least one war where everything alive was to be killed? That sounds closer to "murder" than expelling something that isn't even aware and can often cause you serious health problems...

There is a difference between "murder" and a divine order of the purging of the enemies of the God. They were wicked peoples who sacrificed their children on altars of fire to false gods of stone and wood. The nation itself needed to be utterly destroyed, because it was an abomination before His eyes.

Exactly!

[Church of Thomas Hayden]

Whatever floats your boat... We'll all find out the real truth eventually, and some of us are bound to not like it. I'll keep my faith with my God, King, and Heavenly Father, who sacrificed his life (and rose again) so I may be free from the slavery of sin and so I may come to worship him... and you can keep your faith in your little pile of magical ooze that you claim you came from .

Do you honestly not realize you sound exactly like a little kid who starts bragging about how his Dad is rich, because he's butthurt that some poor kid won the race?

[Hallistar]

I've read about his idea of 'mercy', no thank you.

Whatever floats your boat... We'll all find out the real truth eventually, and some of us are bound to not like it. I'll keep my faith with my God, King, and Heavenly Father, who sacrificed his life (and rose again) so I may be free from the slavery of sin and so I may come to worship him... and you can keep your faith in your little pile of magical ooze that you claim you came from .

Turtles all the way down!

Kudos for those who understand the reference.

Right, because god who somehow is split into three and yet is one recreated himself as a son to kill himself to somehow redeem himself for certain actions that he arbitrarily deemed sins all for the pointless little rat race that is our existence and will barbecue those in eternal hell for whoever didn't stroke his ego the hardest and will babysit the rest in a pointless heaven. All this surrounding a character who we don't even know existed, versus even Muhammad who we know existed for a fact, and a milennia old book.

Of course, that 'magical pile of ooze' is factually where we all came from, since we were not magically created out of thin air and evolution (As a SCIENTIFIC theory, which explains facts) proves it. Its the specific mechanism of evolution that is debated.

And for the last time, evolution does not 'prove' or 'disprove' a god, although it does challenge the biblical interpretation.

Whether there is or isn't a god, why would they give a flying fuck about what we puny mortals do?

Uhoh spaghetios, theres those facts and logic again.

[Nocturnylvania]

And for the last time, evolution does not 'prove' or 'disprove' a god, although it does challenge the biblical interpretation.

Whether there is or isn't a god, why would they give a flying fuck about what we puny mortals do?

Uhoh spaghetios, theres those facts and logic again.

Not everyone who is opposed to religion is an evolutionist. There are many christians who are both christians and evolutionists, so evolution has little to do with proving or disproving the existence of deities.
God apparently doesn't much of a flying fuck about this world judging by his actions.

[Hallistar]

And for the last time, evolution does not 'prove' or 'disprove' a god, although it does challenge the biblical interpretation.

Whether there is or isn't a god, why would they give a flying fuck about what we puny mortals do?

Uhoh spaghetios, theres those facts and logic again.

Not everyone who is opposed to religion is an evolutionist. There are many christians who are both christians and evolutionists, so evolution has little to do with proving or disproving the existence of deities.

God apparently doesn't much of a flying fuck about this world judging by his actions.

Agreed, I don't understand why some feel so threatened by evolution and insist in their 'belief' that we were suddenly all created. Just like the notion that the universe was created by the big bang when in reality it was just expanded by it, and scientifically we are still learning more about quantum physics, multiverses/dimensions, and string-theory and virtual particles. Evolution and science and logic and the universe only deal with the falsifiable.

[Arkinesia]

Murder is fine too. Yahweh did it himself numerous times, once even on a global scale. It is an undeniable fact unborn babies were included too, so therefore if Yaweh can kill unborn babies and Yaweh is never ever wrong, it can't be wrong by that logic.

According to most Christian theology, God is not bound by the morality that binds humans. Disagree if you want, but it voids your argument.

Aquinas and Augustine followed in this path, following further from I believe it was Socrates who said “nothing is in itself holy, rather, what the God says is holy is holy.”

[Nocturnylvania]

Aquinas and Augustine followed in this path, following further from I believe it was Socrates who said “nothing is in itself holy, rather, what the God says is holy is holy.”

That doesn't change that God is a hypocrite by any logical standards. All defenses of God being good rely on making up extra rules to get around the fact he is murderer and does exactly the very things he punishes people in all eternity for doing, which in itself could be said to be extreme and inexcusable sadistic cruelty by anyone's standards but God.
If christians won't apply the same excuses to other hypocritical deities they have no right to be applying it to theirs.

[Maurepas]

Thou shalt not kill.

Pretty much sums it up.



EDIT: Alright, I see your argument. When the government kills a person they were either an immediate threat or had a fair trial. The aborted was/had neither.

However:

After God formed man in Genesis 2:7, He “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and it was then that the man became a living being”. Although the man was fully formed by God in all respects, he was not a living being until after taking his first breath.

Further, in Job 33:4, it states: “The spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.” and again, to quote Ezekiel 37:5&6, “Thus says the Lord God to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live."

So, though the Bible states never to kill, it also states that one is not alive before taking one's first breath, and therefore, an aborted fetus is not killed, because it was never alive, according to the Bible.

In fact, in Exodus abortion/miscarriage is directly referenced:
Exodus 21:22 "If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she gives birth prematurely, yet there is no injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide."

And the only punishment incurred for this occurrence is a fine. The people who are against abortion because their Bible tells them so, haven't actually read their bible very well.

[Augarundus]

1) God is moral.

2) God killed everyone in the world during the Great Flood.

3) "Doesn't matter; they were all sinful! God is still moral."

4) Some of them were pregnant.

5) God killed fetuses/embryos/zygotes.

6) God committed abortion.

7) Abortion is moral.

[Samuraikoku]

Use your indoor voice, please.

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

BURN, HERETIC!

[Rick Rollin]

and he shall pay as the judges determine.

It's legal.

Can you explain what this has to due with intentional, surgical fetal termination?

It demands that all slut babies must DIE!

He should be bound by it. Good example and all that. Yahweh was always all about him, though, from the start. That's why none of us liked him.

I liked Zeus, he went to bed with everyone.

He was a pedo. Yahweh, on the other hand, has standards.

Thous shalt not kill. If you actually crack your Bibles open and read intently before spouting off you'd see that God says that murder is wrong. Life begins at conception therefore it is murder. Use your brains people

Thous shalt not kill. If you actually crack your Bibles open and read intently before spouting off you'd see that God says that murder is wrong. Life begins at conception therefore self-defense is murder. Use your brains people

They are not sentient at conception. Do you support meat eating?

What's your opinion on this?

I fail at formatting BBC hnnnnggg

Irrelevant.

That is a human being in its most basic form the instant of conception. Whether you like it or not. That is the beginning of life. Disgusting how casually today's society is willing to throw away human life.

Fuck fetuses.

What is the woman is in danger of death?

A total slut.

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

*uses sign language to say "Dongs for the Dong Necklace!"*

Gay...

There is a difference between "murder" and a divine order of the purging of the enemies of the God. They were wicked peoples who sacrificed their children on altars of fire to false gods of stone and wood. The nation itself needed to be utterly destroyed, because it was an abomination before His eyes.

Is your God like the God of the Orcs or something?

Jesus, switch out a few proper nouns and you have exactly the mentality of Mussolinni or Cthulhu.

You expect too much from a cosmic horror.

Who says he is bad at his job? Do you even know what his job is? Once you know every little detail about everyone, everything, how the universe works, all the hows, whys, whens, whats, who's, and etc... then come back to me about judging the actions and character of God.

And I never said that he us a specific number of outs before whipping us... As long as we are willing to try, repent, and learn from our mistakes, he will show us mercy and grace, but if we refuse, that's when we have to worry. He is very slow to anger, but when he does get angry (and he does on occasion)... you really do not want to be the one that anger is directed at.

I've read about his idea of 'mercy', no thank you.

That's Blue and Orange morality for you.

[Desperate Measures]

Can you explain what this has to due with intentional, surgical fetal termination?

It demands that all slut babies must DIE!

I liked Zeus, he went to bed with everyone.

He was a pedo. Yahweh, on the other hand, has standards.

Thous shalt not kill. If you actually crack your Bibles open and read intently before spouting off you'd see that God says that murder is wrong. Life begins at conception therefore it is murder. Use your brains people

Thous shalt not kill. If you actually crack your Bibles open and read intently before spouting off you'd see that God says that murder is wrong. Life begins at conception therefore self-defense is murder. Use your brains people

What's your opinion on this?

I fail at formatting BBC hnnnnggg

Irrelevant.

Fuck fetuses.

What is the woman is in danger of death?

A total slut.

*uses sign language to say "Dongs for the Dong Necklace!"*

Gay...

Is your God like the God of the Orcs or something?

Jesus, switch out a few proper nouns and you have exactly the mentality of Mussolinni or Cthulhu.

You expect too much from a cosmic horror.

I've read about his idea of 'mercy', no thank you.

That's Blue and Orange morality for you.

I have a hard time understanding your position on anything.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

It demands that all slut babies must DIE!

He was a pedo. Yahweh, on the other hand, has standards.

Thous shalt not kill. If you actually crack your Bibles open and read intently before spouting off you'd see that God says that murder is wrong. Life begins at conception therefore self-defense is murder. Use your brains people

Irrelevant.

A total slut.

Gay...

You expect too much from a cosmic horror.

That's Blue and Orange morality for you.

I have a hard time understanding your position on anything.

I don't even understand anything he says. But it can sometimes be amusing.

[Wamitoria]

I have a hard time understanding your position on anything.

Crack is a hell of a drug.

[Desperate Measures]

I have a hard time understanding your position on anything.

Crack is a hell of a drug.

Everybody goes on and on about it. Geez. Fine. I'll try it.

[Rick Rollin]

I have a hard time understanding your position on anything.

I don't even understand anything he says. But it can sometimes be amusing.

Is that an insult?