The story of Stuff debate

[Surote]

Story of stuff

This has lies but it also has some truth we need to change our system so it's better for the enviroment.

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This country has become comsumer country and that's not bad but we need to make our comsumer more green.
The media tells us that we suck cause our stuff is not up to date it's wrong and that's why we need to teach our kids media literacy.

So your turn to sound off is our system okay as it is or do we need to fix it.

[Conserative Morality]

Get off your computer. Your killing the enviromentz.

[Surote]

Get off your computer. Your killing the enviromentz.

Ha so funny I forgot to laugh

[Conserative Morality]

Ha so funny I forgot to laugh

In case you couldn't tell, I have a very dim view of most of the modern green movement. Focuses too much on fear-mongering and anti-modernism.

[Surote]

Ha so funny I forgot to laugh

In case you couldn't tell, I have a very dim view of most of the modern green movement. Focuses too much on fear-mongering and anti-modernism.

Anti-modernism going green is modern it's the status quo the is anti-modernism.

[New Kereptica]

Ha so funny I forgot to laugh

In case you couldn't tell, I have a very dim view of most of the modern green movement. Focuses too much on fear-mongering and anti-modernism.

Anti-modernism going green is modern it's the status quo the is anti-modernism.

Ha so unintelligible I forgot to read

Modernism does not necessarily equal environmentalism.

[Conserative Morality]

Anti-modernism going green is modern it's the status quo the is anti-modernism.

Wrong. Apparently, you don't know much about anti-modernism. Going green is not inherently modern. Depending on which way you go, it can be very ANTI-modern. The status quo is modern, on the other hand.

[Surote]

Ha so funny I forgot to laugh

In case you couldn't tell, I have a very dim view of most of the modern green movement. Focuses too much on fear-mongering and anti-modernism.

Anti-modernism going green is modern it's the status quo the is anti-modernism.

Ha so unintelligible I forgot to read

Modernism does not necessarily equal environmentalism.

Going modern means more succesful and efficient technology which means going green is very modern

[Surote]

Anti-modernism going green is modern it's the status quo the is anti-modernism.

Wrong. Apparently, you don't know much about anti-modernism. Going green is not inherently modern. Depending on which way you go, it can be very ANTI-modern. The status quo is modern, on the other hand.

For the rich

[Conserative Morality]

Going modern means more succesful and efficient technology which means going green is very modern

Green technology is not efficient or successful.

[Conserative Morality]

For the rich

Afraid not. Green technology is FAR more expensive than the technology we are currently using. Therefore, Green technology is for the rich.

[New Kereptica]

Going modern means more succesful and efficient technology which means going green is very modern

And if more "succesful [sic] and efficient" technology were harmful to the environment? What then?

[Surote]

Going modern means more succesful and efficient technology which means going green is very modern

Green technology is not efficient or successful.

Sure technology that helps raise our fuel efficiency is not efficient at all and it waste our money shhh my bad man.

so keeping the old polluting technology is totally better for us way to go my man.

[The Godly Nations]

Ninety percent of what we buy usually doesn't last until the end of the month, said they. Well, I don't know about you, but about ninety percent of what I buy is foodstuff, so you can just shove your hippy-theory.

[Surote]

Going modern means more succesful and efficient technology which means going green is very modern

And if more "succesful [sic] and efficient" technology were harmful to the environment? What then?

If that were to help it just means it needs some more upgrades and reviews to help the efficiency

[Conserative Morality]

Sure technology that helps raise our fuel efficiency is not efficient at all and it waste our money shhh my bad man.

so keeping the old polluting technology is totally better for us way to go my man.

No, refining existing technology until it is feasible is the better way to go. Until then, yeah, let's keep with what we have now.

And Green Technology isn't technology that 'helps raise our fuel efficiency'.

[Conserative Morality]

If that were to help it just means it needs some more upgrades and reviews to help the efficiency

In which case:

We shouldn't be using it as a replacement yet!

[Surote]

Sure technology that helps raise our fuel efficiency is not efficient at all and it waste our money shhh my bad man.

so keeping the old polluting technology is totally better for us way to go my man.

No, refining existing technology until it is feasible is the better way to go. Until then, yeah, let's keep with what we have now.

And Green Technology isn't technology that 'helps raise our fuel efficiency'.

So using oil that kills our planet and destroys our health plus only has a hundred years left that's modern

[Surote]

If that were to help it just means it needs some more upgrades and reviews to help the efficiency

In which case:

We shouldn't be using it as a replacement yet!

Most of the green technology is efficient enough

[Conserative Morality]

So using oil that kills our planet and destroys our health plus only has a hundred years left that's modern

At the moment?

Yep.

[Surote]

So using oil that kills our planet and destroys our health plus only has a hundred years left that's modern

At the moment?

Yep.

Okay man but that's not what our current pres thinks and he's bent on changing it.

[Surote]

So using oil that kills our planet and destroys our health plus only has a hundred years left that's modern

At the moment?

Yep.

Oh and get out of the past once in a while

[Conserative Morality]

Most of the green technology is efficient enough

No. It really isn't. Unless you have a link that proves that Solar/Wind/Tidal/Hydro power can completely replace Fossil Fuels, with the world exactly as it is at the moment, without incredible jumps in production cost, without significant jumps in technology, and without reducing current electricity usage.

I want a reliable source, mind you.

[Conserative Morality]

Okay man but that's not what our current pres thinks and he's bent on changing it.

Just like he was 'bent' on repealing don't ask, don't tell?

Oh, wait, that's right, he's just another politician!

[Conserative Morality]

Oh and get out of the past once in a while

I am out of the past. I'm in the present.