When did you choose to be straight?

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Sexuality is who you are attracted to, who you date, and who you have sex with.[/quote]
No. You can be a male who is attracted to males but chose not to persue it, instead date women who you not in the slightest attracted to and have sex with tose same women simply because you want to fit in and/or you are pressurised by your family, you are still gay, aren't you?

Im not still gay, I have never been gay yet.

[Ifreann]

Then he should be asked whenever he says it.

It's USSR. He doesn't base his information off of much besides the bible, so it'll probably never happen.

I can't imagine the Bible ever mentioned dating.

[Farnhamia]

Then he should be asked whenever he says it.

It's USSR. He doesn't base his information off of much besides the bible, so it'll probably never happen.

No free passes for being a Bible-thumper.

[Northern Dominus]

Sexuality is who you are attracted to, who you date, and who you have sex with.[/quote]
No. You can be a male who is attracted to males but chose not to persue it, instead date women who you not in the slightest attracted to and have sex with tose same women simply because you want to fit in and/or you are pressurised by your family, you are still gay, aren't you?

Im not still gay, I have never been gay yet.

And if you are positively attracted to females then most likely you never will be. You don't have a choice in the matter as far as baseline attraction. Neither does a gay, lesbian bisexual or transsexual person.
As I cited earlier:

Sexuality revolves almost completly around dating.

....and you have citations regarding studies to back that up? Because I have a few saying you're very wrong.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_caus.htm
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/about-a ... ation.page
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... logy/4683/

And while there is no discernible concrete reason as to why one person is hetero, and another is gay, but ethical research is shedding new light on the subject.
http://www.gaybros.com/

Any questions?

The notion of "Choice" is completely bunk and false.

[Samuraikoku]

Sexuality is who you are attracted to, who you date, and who you have sex with.

I admit I'm ignorant of this topic, but "who you date" has no relationship to sexuality. Dating is an entirely different issue.

[Northern Dominus]

It's USSR. He doesn't base his information off of much besides the bible, so it'll probably never happen.

I can't imagine the Bible ever mentioned dating.

It sure mentioned a lot of incest and murder.

[Condunum]

It's USSR. He doesn't base his information off of much besides the bible, so it'll probably never happen.

No free passes for being a Bible-thumper.

I didn't say there was one, Farn. I'm saying that taking his posts to heart is asking for a headache.

[Ifreann]

I can't imagine the Bible ever mentioned dating.

It sure mentioned a lot of incest and murder.

Maybe that's how dates went back then.

[Farnhamia]

I can't imagine the Bible ever mentioned dating.

It sure mentioned a lot of incest and murder.

There's a little incest, Noah's daughters and Lot's, I think, but not a lot. A good many people do get murdered, though.

[The Aryan Nations]

I do not understand the idea that homosexuals choose to be so.
It is an idea that many seem to have, particularly on NS, but also in the news.
I am personally straight, but I never made a concious decision to be. As such I think that the idea that people choose is a ridiculous one.
So, my question is, why do people think it is a choice, and, if you think people choose to be gay, when did you choose to be straight?

Heterosexuality is the natural state; the desire to reproduce appears almost universally across nature.

[The Aryan Nations]

It sure mentioned a lot of incest and murder.

There's a little incest, Noah's daughters and Lot's, I think, but not a lot. A good many people do get murdered, though.

Noah and lots?

think about this.

Adam and Eve had two sons. there were no other humans.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Then he should be asked whenever he says it.

It's USSR. He doesn't base his information off of much besides the bible, so it'll probably never happen.

I have never ONCE based ANY of my imformation off the Bible, read my posts. I have barely mentioned it before anyway.

[Samuraikoku]

I have never ONCE based ANY of my imformation off the Bible, read my posts. I have barely mentioned it before anyway.

Then what do you base it on?

[Northern Dominus]

There's a little incest, Noah's daughters and Lot's, I think, but not a lot. A good many people do get murdered, though.

Noah and lots?

think about this.

Adam and Eve had two sons. there were no other humans.

Right...so where did the other wimmin come from?
Since they're not named one can only assume then that Cain and Abel had to reproduce with the only woman around.

You do the math.

[Ifreann]

There's a little incest, Noah's daughters and Lot's, I think, but not a lot. A good many people do get murdered, though.

Noah and lots?

think about this.

Adam and Eve had two sons. there were no other humans.

Pretty sure there were.

[Farnhamia]

There's a little incest, Noah's daughters and Lot's, I think, but not a lot. A good many people do get murdered, though.

Noah and lots?

think about this.

Adam and Eve had two sons. there were no other humans.

I was going to say that there's some implied incest, yes. But then all of a sudden, in the time of Cain and Abel, there suddenly are bunches of people, if I remember aright.

[The Aryan Nations]

Noah and lots?

think about this.

Adam and Eve had two sons. there were no other humans.

Right...so where did the other wimmin come from?
Since they're not named one can only assume then that Cain and Abel had to reproduce with the only woman around.

You do the math.

yes; that was what i was implying.

[Condunum]

It's USSR. He doesn't base his information off of much besides the bible, so it'll probably never happen.

I have never ONCE based ANY of my imformation off the Bible, read my posts. I have barely mentioned it before anyway.

Bullshit, I know for a fact you've cited at least Corinthians and John.
What other sources have you used, then?
Edit: Leviticus, from what I saw.

[Ifreann]

It's USSR. He doesn't base his information off of much besides the bible, so it'll probably never happen.

I have never ONCE based ANY of my imformation off the Bible, read my posts. I have barely mentioned it before anyway.

So where did you get this shit about sexuality and dating?

[Northern Dominus]

It's USSR. He doesn't base his information off of much besides the bible, so it'll probably never happen.

I have never ONCE based ANY of my imformation off the Bible, read my posts. I have barely mentioned it before anyway.

Except in a certain thread you've clearly identified yourself as a "christian" so it stands to reason that's where your base of knowledge comes from until proven otherwise.

Once again, listed several sources that debunk your "Choice" theory:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_caus.htm
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/about-a ... ation.page
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... logy/4683/
http://www.gaybros.com/

Any questions?

[Raeyh]

Noah and lots?

think about this.

Adam and Eve had two sons. there were no other humans.

Right...so where did the other wimmin come from?
Since they're not named one can only assume then that Cain and Abel had to reproduce with the only woman around.

You do the math.

You are wrong.

There were people created by other gods, such as Lilith. For crying out loud, there was a enough people to make a city in the land of Nod, where Cain got sent to for killing Abel.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

I have never ONCE based ANY of my imformation off the Bible, read my posts. I have barely mentioned it before anyway.

Bullshit, I know for a fact you've cited at least Corinthians and John.
What other sources have you used, then?

What? Where the Hell is your source?

[Condunum]

Bullshit, I know for a fact you've cited at least Corinthians and John.
What other sources have you used, then?

What? Where the Hell is your source?

I checked, and you've stated what Leviticus condemns.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=173280&p=8909570#p8909570

Leviticus is a chapter in the bible that says that homosexuality is wrong.

Whether or not you were in support of this doesn't mean shit. I was wrong that you cite it often, but you have cited the bible.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

What? Where the Hell is your source?

I checked, and you've stated what Leviticus condemns.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=173280&p=8909570#p8909570

Leviticus is a chapter in the bible that says that homosexuality is wrong.

Whether or not you were in support of this doesn't mean shit. I was wrong that you cite it often, but you have cited the bible.

I was saying what Leviticus was, thats not citing the Bible.

[Northern Dominus]

Right...so where did the other wimmin come from?
Since they're not named one can only assume then that Cain and Abel had to reproduce with the only woman around.

You do the math.

yes; that was what i was implying.

So... you're also implying that using the bible to justify the subjugation and discrimination of LGBT people is pretty hypocritical considering the other bad stuff in the bible that doesn't get the same airtime?