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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 11, 2012 7:35 am

Raeyh wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Right...so where did the other wimmin come from?
Since they're not named one can only assume then that Cain and Abel had to reproduce with the only woman around.

You do the math.


You are wrong.

There were people created by other gods, such as Lilith. For crying out loud, there was a enough people to make a city in the land of Nod, where Cain got sent to for killing Abel.

I thought there were no other gods.
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Postby Condunum » Fri May 11, 2012 7:37 am

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Condunum wrote:I checked, and you've stated what Leviticus condemns.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=173280&p=8909570#p8909570

Whether or not you were in support of this doesn't mean shit. I was wrong that you cite it often, but you have cited the bible.

I was saying what Leviticus was, thats not citing the Bible.

No, that's citing the bible, actually, but fine.

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Fri May 11, 2012 7:37 am

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Raeyh wrote:
You are wrong.

There were people created by other gods, such as Lilith. For crying out loud, there was a enough people to make a city in the land of Nod, where Cain got sent to for killing Abel.

I thought there were no other gods.

According to the bible, there are. "Thou shalt have no other god before me."
Seems a bit odd to have instead of something like "Thou shalt worship me because I'm in the one who exists."
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 11, 2012 7:38 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Condunum wrote:I checked, and you've stated what Leviticus condemns.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=173280&p=8909570#p8909570

Whether or not you were in support of this doesn't mean shit. I was wrong that you cite it often, but you have cited the bible.

I was saying what Leviticus was, thats not citing the Bible.

Are you actually going to address any of the relevant points or are you just going to get pissy about whether you cite the Bible or not?
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri May 11, 2012 7:38 am

Condunum wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I was saying what Leviticus was, thats not citing the Bible.

No, that's citing the bible, actually, but fine.

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Its still not using the Bible as a source. And I know what passage says homosexuality is an abomination thank you very much.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 11, 2012 7:40 am

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I thought there were no other gods.

According to the bible, there are. "Thou shalt have no other god before me."
Seems a bit odd to have instead of something like "Thou shalt worship me because I'm in the one who exists."

I know, huh? Christians seem to miss the fact that the Old Testament has as one of its themes the wonderfulness of Yahweh as compared to every other god. Those others are important to the story, because without them, who would Yahweh have to dis?
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Postby Condunum » Fri May 11, 2012 7:40 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Condunum wrote:No, that's citing the bible, actually, but fine.

viewtopic.php?p=9064286#p9064286

Its still not using the Bible as a source. And I know what passage says homosexuality is an abomination thank you very much.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=174780&p=9053561&hilit=verse#p9053561
Found somthing similar.

#4 – Mark 14:51-52

“A young man was following Him, wearing nothing but a linen sheet over his naked body; and they seized him. But he pulled free of the linen sheet and escaped naked.”


Stop fucking saying you didn't cite the bible. I don't care if it's not often, you've done it.

Back on topic; you still need a reason for Gay Marriage to be banned. Your personal definition of Marriage is not good enough.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 11, 2012 7:42 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:According to the bible, there are. "Thou shalt have no other god before me."
Seems a bit odd to have instead of something like "Thou shalt worship me because I'm in the one who exists."

I know, huh? Christians seem to miss the fact that the Old Testament has as one of its themes the wonderfulness of Yahweh as compared to every other god. Those others are important to the story, because without them, who would Yahweh have to dis?

There's always Satan.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri May 11, 2012 7:43 am

Condunum wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Its still not using the Bible as a source. And I know what passage says homosexuality is an abomination thank you very much.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=174780&p=9053561&hilit=verse#p9053561
Found somthing similar.

#4 – Mark 14:51-52

“A young man was following Him, wearing nothing but a linen sheet over his naked body; and they seized him. But he pulled free of the linen sheet and escaped naked.”


Stop fucking saying you didn't cite the bible. I don't care if it's not often, you've done it.

Back on topic; you still need a reason for Gay Marriage to be banned. Your personal definition of Marriage is not good enough.

I was mentioning a similar verse. Sure I have posted things from the Bible, but I have never ONCE used it as a source.
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Postby Raeyh » Fri May 11, 2012 7:44 am

Ifreann wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I know, huh? Christians seem to miss the fact that the Old Testament has as one of its themes the wonderfulness of Yahweh as compared to every other god. Those others are important to the story, because without them, who would Yahweh have to dis?

There's always Satan.


You mean Lucifer? That just makes him look so bad, not even his own followers like him.

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Postby Condunum » Fri May 11, 2012 7:44 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Condunum wrote:viewtopic.php?f=20&t=174780&p=9053561&hilit=verse#p9053561


Stop fucking saying you didn't cite the bible. I don't care if it's not often, you've done it.

Back on topic; you still need a reason for Gay Marriage to be banned. Your personal definition of Marriage is not good enough.

I was mentioning a similar verse. Sure I have posted things from the Bible, but I have never ONCE used it as a source.

That is using it as a source. Now, stop avoiding the request, and tell me why Homosexuals can't marry one another.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 11, 2012 7:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I know, huh? Christians seem to miss the fact that the Old Testament has as one of its themes the wonderfulness of Yahweh as compared to every other god. Those others are important to the story, because without them, who would Yahweh have to dis?

There's always Satan.

Yes, but he's not really that much fun in the OT. He's got about as much free will as a rock, when it comes down to it. Yahweh never goes up against any real gods, like Zeus or Enki or Nanna or Isis or Amun-Ra or, you know, me.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri May 11, 2012 7:46 am

Condunum wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I was mentioning a similar verse. Sure I have posted things from the Bible, but I have never ONCE used it as a source.

That is using it as a source. Now, stop avoiding the request, and tell me why Homosexuals can't marry one another.

No no it isnt. If you want to know visit my old "Your opinion on homosexuality?" thread.
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Postby Condunum » Fri May 11, 2012 7:48 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Condunum wrote:That is using it as a source. Now, stop avoiding the request, and tell me why Homosexuals can't marry one another.

No no it isnt. If you want to know visit my old "Your opinion on homosexuality?" thread.

I don't have an obligation to visit it, and I participated in that thread. You have no legitimate reasons why Homosexual marriage is wrong, or should not be allowed.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 11, 2012 7:49 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:There's always Satan.

Yes, but he's not really that much fun in the OT. He's got about as much free will as a rock, when it comes down to it. Yahweh never goes up against any real gods, like Zeus or Enki or Nanna or Isis or Amun-Ra or, you know, me.

Not terribly impressive when you put it like that.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri May 11, 2012 7:50 am

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The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:No no it isnt. If you want to know visit my old "Your opinion on homosexuality?" thread.

I don't have an obligation to visit it, and I participated in that thread. You have no legitimate reasons why Homosexual marriage is wrong, or should not be allowed.

Yes I have, you clearly arent paying attention. Again that thread contains my opinion and this thread is on why people choose to be straight/gay not on gay marrige.
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Postby Condunum » Fri May 11, 2012 7:53 am

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Condunum wrote:I don't have an obligation to visit it, and I participated in that thread. You have no legitimate reasons why Homosexual marriage is wrong, or should not be allowed.

Yes I have, you clearly arent paying attention. Again that thread contains my opinion and this thread is on why people choose to be straight/gay not on gay marrige.

No, you don't have a legitimate reason. The reasons you put forth weren't good reasons, they were backed by your ill concieved notion about marrriage. Yes, we did stray off topic. Your position on choice is wrong, too, though.
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Postby Gossia » Fri May 11, 2012 7:53 am

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Gossia wrote:I agree it's not a choice no more than anyone born with a mental or physical disability! Yet we blame those who commit crimes with being a product of their surroundings or poor upbringing. Is it not true that these people had no choice in their actions? I for one am tired of being forced to except peoples actions as being normal (when in my understanding) it's just a matter of a birth defect! After all these actions of homosexuals do not fit into the prepetual design of life. This being said, I don't believe these people deserve any harm and are free to live their lives in the manner they choose!! But please stop with forcing others to except your lifestyle as much as you denounce theirs. And finally, I hope everyone with or with out a choice a happy life experience provided it brings no harm to another Human being. Thank You

What? You choose to be gay or straight, you choose who you go out with.

If you read what I wrote you will see I am straight! And yes I believe you choose whom you go out with!

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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri May 11, 2012 8:25 am

Gossia wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:What? You choose to be gay or straight, you choose who you go out with.

If you read what I wrote you will see I am straight! And yes I believe you choose whom you go out with!

But that doesn't necessarily mean you choose who you are attracted to at a fundamental biological level. No evidence in the world points to an ability to simply change your sexual orientation on a dime, no credible evidence anyway.
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Postby Salandriagado » Fri May 11, 2012 9:20 am

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Condunum wrote:I don't have an obligation to visit it, and I participated in that thread. You have no legitimate reasons why Homosexual marriage is wrong, or should not be allowed.

Yes I have, you clearly arent paying attention. Again that thread contains my opinion and this thread is on why people choose to be straight/gay not on gay marrige.


OK, post your "legitimate reason" why homosexual marriage is wrong.
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Postby Laerod » Fri May 11, 2012 9:31 am

The Archregimancy wrote:Apologies to everyone else for the derail, but I thought that worth addressing quickly.

Thoroughly, yes, but quickly? =P

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Postby Nui-ta » Fri May 11, 2012 9:49 am

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Who are you talking about? Sorry, I just don't understand your post.

He's saying the sexual default is bisexual.


I can see this happening. So I guess I'll just check "default" on any questions asking me about my sexuality...
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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri May 11, 2012 10:39 am

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The Archregimancy wrote:Apologies to everyone else for the derail, but I thought that worth addressing quickly.

Thoroughly, yes, but quickly? =P


I'm more used to writing several thousand word-long journal papers/book chapters with extensive in-text citations and massive bibliographies.

By my standards, that was brevity incarnate. ;)

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 11, 2012 10:49 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Laerod wrote:Thoroughly, yes, but quickly? =P


I'm more used to writing several thousand word-long journal papers/book chapters with extensive in-text citations and massive bibliographies.

By my standards, that was brevity incarnate. ;)

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Postby The Aryan Nations » Fri May 11, 2012 11:21 am

Raeyh wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Right...so where did the other wimmin come from?
Since they're not named one can only assume then that Cain and Abel had to reproduce with the only woman around.

You do the math.


You are wrong.

There were people created by other gods, such as Lilith. For crying out loud, there was a enough people to make a city in the land of Nod, where Cain got sent to for killing Abel.


...is that in there? i think i might need to reread genesis... i dont even believe the book in the first place and i think thats wrong...


Also, forgot to mention this earlier-

OP, you do realize that the big gay pride deal from the 80s and 90s was that it was 'their choice' to be gay?
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