Are mods corrupt/biased?

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

There is a line between discussing an illegal activity and advocating for others to perform the illegal activity.

Yes, and the question is whether or not he crossed it. I think he should be allowed to come back as long as he watches what he says a bit more.

EDIT: He never told others to do what he did.

Well since they made it so we cant see the thread I cant confirm this or not, but confession to a crime is different than endorsing it.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

I think everybody needs to stop making the false assumption that the moderators actually care about what we think of their actions. They know what they're doing; we don't.

I would think they actually do care about opinion to a degree, their hands are just sort of tied when the bosslady tells them to do something.

[Mallorea and Riva]

I think everybody needs to stop making the false assumption that the moderators actually care about what we think of their actions. They know what they're doing; we don't.

I think they care to the extent that they are out to make this site a better place for us, the users. And if they mess up they want to know so that they can rectify any problems.

[Norstal]

He is not the only one though. I have heard of other members that suffered unfair treatment and overly-harsh sentences even though I am too new to have known them personally.

So what do you think NSG? Are the mods justified in their decisions or am I right about any of this? I would also like to hear the moderators opinion on this issue as well.

Lol

Lolol.

The mods in this forum are pretty damn lenient compared to the mods of other forums.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

My faith in humanity has once again been severely shakened.

Just now? I lost my faith in humanity a long time ago.

Nah, I did actually lose hope in humanity quite some time ago. This only confirms it.

[Ultor Corporation]

Yes, and the question is whether or not he crossed it. I think he should be allowed to come back as long as he watches what he says a bit more.

EDIT: He never told others to do what he did.

Well since they made it so we cant see the thread I cant confirm this or not, but confession to a crime is different than endorsing it.

Exactly. A person can confess to stealing without endorsing it.

[Norstal]

Yes, and the question is whether or not he crossed it. I think he should be allowed to come back as long as he watches what he says a bit more.

EDIT: He never told others to do what he did.

Well since they made it so we cant see the thread I cant confirm this or not, but confession to a crime is different than endorsing it.

So if someone were to confess to a murder and show all the evidence of them doing, it'll be a-okay.

It's not an endorsement. It's just showing that they are teh c00l.

[Corvega]

I would think they actually do care about opinion to a degree, their hands are just sort of tied when the bosslady tells them to do something.

I think they care to the extent that they are out to make this site a better place for us, the users. And if they mess up they want to know so that they can rectify any problems.

I understand. I just think that all of these, ''Oh, the DoS was too harsh'', comments are a waste of time.

[Norstal]

Well since they made it so we cant see the thread I cant confirm this or not, but confession to a crime is different than endorsing it.

Exactly. A person can confess to stealing without endorsing it.

Pretty sure you can make an argument without confessing to crimes. So, with that in mind, why do you think he confessed?

[Ultor Corporation]

Well since they made it so we cant see the thread I cant confirm this or not, but confession to a crime is different than endorsing it.

So if someone were to confess to a murder and show all the evidence of them doing, it'll be a-okay.

It's not an endorsement. It's just showing that they are teh c00l.

well, murder is a much more severe crime then what Cats did, I even think it's legal where he lives.

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Well since they made it so we cant see the thread I cant confirm this or not, but confession to a crime is different than endorsing it.

Exactly. A person can confess to stealing without endorsing it.

Although you said you werent a puppet of 1000 cats, it sure looks like it, you have RIP 1000 cats in your sig, you are even in his old region. Anyway yes, although confessing to being involved in 9/11 or mass murder might be a bit much.

[Avalar]

Are the mods corrupt/biased? Pff, you should be asking a different question!

Are the mods corrupt/biased enough? I, for one, think they've still got an unfortunately long ways to go. I mean really, threads like this one and Karin's utterly absurd revolution thread are proof enough of that. Where is the hellfire and nuclear modbomb barrage? They ought to be more liberally applying their banhammers, and they are sorely lacking on their DEAT-stabbings. Their names should be making the peasantry flee in fear at the mere mention of them! Their wrath should be quickly and freely given, with none of this obnoxious escalating warnings and one-day softly-softly ban crap. Can you imagine? People getting unofficial notices and redtext warnings, instead of the skull-smashing impact of a banhammer at the first cause of modly annoyance! And don't even get me started on their idiotic appeals process! It's disgusting I tell you! Letting players get erroneous warnings overturned, letting them question the infaliable Word of Mod? Preposterous!

Seriously, what kinda of mamby-pamby corruption is that? Sweet merciless BOFH, they are doing it completely wrong! Try harder, mods! Come on, you can do better than this!

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~Reploid Seductions
~She Who is Feared, She Who Wields the Oversized Butcher Knives of Deletion
~The Bastard Nationstates Game Moderator... from HELL!

Thats the way!!! Defend the Modocracy!!!!!! WE WANT MORE OPPRESSION!!!!!!!

[Laerod]

There is a line between discussing an illegal activity and advocating for others to perform the illegal activity.

Yes, and the question is whether or not he crossed it. I think he should be allowed to come back as long as he watches what he says a bit more.

EDIT: He never told others to do what he did.

He'd been repeatedly told not to discuss what comprises a criminal act in a good chunk of the part of the world that the forum services. He'd been warned ad nauseam too. Somehow he didn't take a hint and after he got deleted, he kept it up. It's really no surprise that he got DOS'd.

[Mallorea and Riva]

I would think they actually do care about opinion to a degree, their hands are just sort of tied when the bosslady tells them to do something.

I think they care to the extent that they are out to make this site a better place for us, the users. And if they mess up they want to know so that they can rectify any problems.

I understand. I just think that all of these, ''Oh, the DoS was too harsh'', comments are a waste of time.

Yeah and that's understandable, they've been over it a thousand time and seen at least four of these threads in the last two days about the issue.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

I would think they actually do care about opinion to a degree, their hands are just sort of tied when the bosslady tells them to do something.

I think they care to the extent that they are out to make this site a better place for us, the users. And if they mess up they want to know so that they can rectify any problems.

I understand. I just think that all of these, ''Oh, the DoS was too harsh'', comments are a waste of time.

Yeah, if it didn't bring back New Nicksyllvania...

[Arumdaum]

I understand. I just think that all of these, ''Oh, the DoS was too harsh'', comments are a waste of time.

Yeah, if it didn't bring back New Nicksyllvania...

He's DoS?

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

So if someone were to confess to a murder and show all the evidence of them doing, it'll be a-okay.

It's not an endorsement. It's just showing that they are teh c00l.

well, murder is a much more severe crime then what Cats did, I even think it's legal where he lives.

The issue is also a PR one as much as anything. Bestiality is not looked upon well at all, given a poster in this thread's outright statement that they would "hunt him down and destroy [1000 Cats]" if given the chance, allowing Cats to post about that openly... Could bring Hell down on the forum's head.

[Ultor Corporation]

Exactly. A person can confess to stealing without endorsing it.

Although you said you werent a puppet of 1000 cats, it sure looks like it, you have RIP 1000 cats in your sig, you are even in his old region. Anyway yes, although confessing to being involved in 9/11 or mass murder might be a bit much.

I am his friend on NS so I still talk to him off-site. That's why I made this thread. We did an RP together too.

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[Norstal]

So if someone were to confess to a murder and show all the evidence of them doing, it'll be a-okay.

It's not an endorsement. It's just showing that they are teh c00l.

well, murder is a much more severe crime then what Cats did, I even think it's legal where he lives.

I really don't see the difference. If 4chan can call the cops for people torturing cats, pretty sure the NS mods can do what they need to do in regards to this.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

Yeah, if it didn't bring back New Nicksyllvania...

He's DoS?

I'm gonna assume you mean Cats and not New Nicksyllvania, but yes.

[Laerod]

well, murder is a much more severe crime then what Cats did, I even think it's legal where he lives.

The issue is also a PR one as much as anything. Bestiality is not looked upon well at all, given a poster in this thread's outright statement that they would "hunt him down and destroy [1000 Cats]" if given the chance, allowing Cats to post about that openly... Could bring Hell down on the forum's head.

I dunno. Avoiding potential liability sounds like a lot more than just PR...

[Sabre]

I think everybody needs to stop making the false assumption that the moderators actually care about what we think of their actions. They know what they're doing; we don't.

Yep, this is how I look at it. They're probably of the 'if you don't like it, don't be here' attitude ultimately.
It's a privately run site / game / forum, they can do what they like, but in the interests of most of us and of the game's success, they don't just ban us for no reason.
Once you start on topics that are distasteful to the average person, that are illegal in many places, and are against what the mods believe is good for the game, and you know this but push the limits, and you have been warned, you have to expect to be banned.

I'm pretty new, but it seems obvious enough.
They can ban us anytime and they don't have to explain themselves. They don't (obviously), but if we push our luck, and especially if we know we are, it's goodbye.
How is that unfair?

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

The issue is also a PR one as much as anything. Bestiality is not looked upon well at all, given a poster in this thread's outright statement that they would "hunt him down and destroy [1000 Cats]" if given the chance, allowing Cats to post about that openly... Could bring Hell down on the forum's head.

I dunno. Avoiding potential liability sounds like a lot more than just PR...

There is that too, of course. God knows the last thing they'd need is this site getting deleted or looked into.

[Vitaphone Racing]

[The Greater Aryan Race]

well, murder is a much more severe crime then what Cats did, I even think it's legal where he lives.

The issue is also a PR one as much as anything. Bestiality is not looked upon well at all, given a poster in this thread's outright statement that they would "hunt him down and destroy [1000 Cats]" if given the chance, allowing Cats to post about that openly... Could bring Hell down on the forum's head.

That's my own belief that bestiality is a crime. I can't speak for the rest of NSG though....