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Mallorea and Riva
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Mallorea and Riva » Wed May 09, 2012 11:52 pm

How the shit did you get [violet] to show up in NSG? We've seen so many of these threads recently. No the mods aren't biased. Do they make mistakes? Sure. Shit happens. If you feel you've been wronged, submit a Getting Help Request and moderators unrelated to your initial problem will be called upon to review your appeal/problem. It's a pretty nifty system.

Wait... [violet]... you asked the mods to delete him? Can't you do it yourself?
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Postby Moriskov » Wed May 09, 2012 11:53 pm

Forsher wrote:
Moriskov wrote:Are you insane!?! You will bring death to us all if you do that!


Which is when we realise who the account is. The plan is flawless.

By George, that is a brilliant plan!
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Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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Postby Coffee Cakes » Wed May 09, 2012 11:53 pm

Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
i didn't know you had another account. :?


Every account is Violet. Therefore all nations are Violet.


I'm not Violet. >.>
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Jerusalem and Damascus
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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Wed May 09, 2012 11:53 pm

Moriskov wrote:
Forsher wrote:
Which is when we realise who the account is. The plan is flawless.

By George, that is a brilliant plan!


Indeed. And then we shall all ascend.
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Wed May 09, 2012 11:53 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:How the shit did you get [violet] to show up in NSG? We've seen so many of these threads recently. No the mods aren't biased. Do they make mistakes? Sure. Shit happens. If you feel you've been wronged, submit a Getting Help Request and moderators unrelated to your initial problem will be called upon to review your appeal/problem. It's a pretty nifty system.

Wait... [violet]... you asked the mods to delete him? Can't you do it yourself?


No, [Violet] has her devout followers carry out [Violet]s will. [Violet] doesn't manifest in this world.
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Ultor Corporation
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Postby Ultor Corporation » Wed May 09, 2012 11:54 pm

Somehow I knew this would turn into a spam-fest.

Anyways it's not about being popular. It's about an overly harsh ban order for a player saying something that was never an issue before. I still don't think he deserved a DOS order for posting that IRC conversation. It shouldn't have been that big of a deal.

And I can't use a Getting Help because I'm not the person that was banned.

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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Wed May 09, 2012 11:54 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
Every account is Violet. Therefore all nations are Violet.


I'm not Violet. >.>


That's what they all say.
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Postby Xenoglade Plugins » Wed May 09, 2012 11:54 pm

They are an (admittedly small) institution with a minor degree of power, so I wouldn't doubt it.

"A hierarchical institution isolated from external regulation tends toward corruption." is as close to "law" as one can get is sociology. It's kinda like the second law of thermodynamics, except for institutions of power.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed May 09, 2012 11:54 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
Every account is Violet. Therefore all nations are Violet.


I'm not Violet. >.>

And im not Max Barry.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Wed May 09, 2012 11:54 pm

Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
I'm not Violet. >.>


That's what they all say.


D:
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Posting mod mistakes now are we?

Well, sir, you can have a Vindictive warning for making us look incompetent
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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Wed May 09, 2012 11:55 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
I'm not Violet. >.>

And im not Max Barry.


We know you're not, as Max Barry, being an author, would never not capitalise.
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Postby Grasswalkia » Wed May 09, 2012 11:55 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Hell no. The mods do a good job and are very professional.


Sucking up to the mods isn't going to make you one.
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Novaya Tselinoyarsk
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Wed May 09, 2012 11:55 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
That's what they all say.


D:


Prove you're not! You can't.
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Postby Ovisterra » Wed May 09, 2012 11:55 pm

And another one appears. Mod Bashing season has well and truly begun.
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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Wed May 09, 2012 11:55 pm

Grasswalkia wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Hell no. The mods do a good job and are very professional.


Sucking up to the mods isn't going to make you one.


And saying people who speak favourably of the mods are sucking up does not endear you much.
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Mallorea and Riva » Wed May 09, 2012 11:55 pm

Ultor Corporation wrote:Somehow I knew this would turn into a spam-fest.

Anyways it's not about being popular. It's about an overly harsh ban order for a player saying something that was never an issue before. I still don't think he deserved a DOS order for posting that IRC conversation. It shouldn't have been that big of a deal.

And I can't use a Getting Help because I'm not the person that was banned.

Mods and admin tell him specifically not to do something. He does it. Gets deleted. Keeps doing it. Gets banned. Seems pretty fair to me.
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Postby Monlyth » Wed May 09, 2012 11:56 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
That's what they all say.


D:

I see the pressure stacking on you..
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Wed May 09, 2012 11:56 pm

Grasswalkia wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Hell no. The mods do a good job and are very professional.


Sucking up to the mods isn't going to make you one.


Or maybe, you know, that's just what he thinks. Just because someone has a different opinion on a group of people doesn't mean they're "sucking" up to them.

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Postby Anthoraubia » Wed May 09, 2012 11:56 pm

So far they seem to be ok.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Wed May 09, 2012 11:56 pm

Forsher wrote:
[violet] wrote:I'm here all the time, I just use my other account.


Another account? Is its identity secret?

Wherver that post is, yeah FST was banned. Apparently he was DoS as well, just well hidden.

DoS?
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Postby Ovisterra » Wed May 09, 2012 11:57 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:
Forsher wrote:
Another account? Is its identity secret?

Wherver that post is, yeah FST was banned. Apparently he was DoS as well, just well hidden.

DoS?


Delete on Sight.
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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Wed May 09, 2012 11:57 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:
Forsher wrote:
Another account? Is its identity secret?

Wherver that post is, yeah FST was banned. Apparently he was DoS as well, just well hidden.

DoS?


Delete on sight.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Wed May 09, 2012 11:58 pm

Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
D:


Prove you're not! You can't.


I can actually.

Max Barry = Violet.
And as I'm an American, I'm definitely not Max. *nods*
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Postby Moriskov » Wed May 09, 2012 11:59 pm

Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Moriskov wrote:By George, that is a brilliant plan!


Indeed. And then we shall all ascend.

But then wouldn't [violet] somehow found a way to keep themselves ahead of the pack? It is an endless viscous cycle.
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Osaea wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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Postby Ultor Corporation » Wed May 09, 2012 11:59 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Ultor Corporation wrote:Somehow I knew this would turn into a spam-fest.

Anyways it's not about being popular. It's about an overly harsh ban order for a player saying something that was never an issue before. I still don't think he deserved a DOS order for posting that IRC conversation. It shouldn't have been that big of a deal.

And I can't use a Getting Help because I'm not the person that was banned.

Mods and admin tell him specifically not to do something. He does it. Gets deleted. Keeps doing it. Gets banned. Seems pretty fair to me.


He was never told he could not talk about his....interests in the forum though. Just that one report and he gets deleted with no warnings. If what he said crossed the line a temp. ban might have been a better choice. It really caught him off-guard from what he told me.

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