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Postby Alevuss » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:38 pm

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According to Yahoo, it may be possible to get plants to receive nutrients from blood, but it's unknown, I think, if they can survive solely on blood.

They still need soil, though. The nutrients that they need in soil are oxygen, hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium. Oxygen (if you plant the tree in an artery) should be easy to get. Same goes, I think, for potassium and phosphorus. I'm pretty sure you'd need to plant the seed in a vein in order to the carbon from CO2 (There's some more Oxygen for you).

In order to get the nitrogen (I'm not sure if there is nitrogen in blood), you could try Nitrous oxide, Laughing Gas, but I'm not sure if that'd be safe to put in your blood stream.

But I have no idea how you'll get any hydrogen. I don't know if that's in your blood, either.

I do not recommend doing any of this. :lol:


Nitrogen is in the blood stream (that's part of the reason why one gets the Bends when rapidly undergoing pressure changes). CO2 can be gotten from the air, as usual. I'm pretty sure phosphorus is in cells, and potassium is in the muscles, IIRC. Hydrogen is in the blood, in water.


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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:39 pm

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Zeth Rekia wrote:Trash Tim and Frank. Thrown in Guillermo del Toro, Katsuhiro Otomo.

Throw in some steampunk and anime qualities and mix it with Zeno's art style. You need to render the Dream scenes accurately too.

Of course! Del Toro would be perfect for this.
Not sure how I feel about the steampunk and anime stuff. Might work if nobody mentions it. Guy who lives in a trailer happens to have a clockwork leg, but it's never called attention to in-story, it's just there. It should stay grounded more or less in the real world, or at least a subtly creepy nightmare-parallel of the real world.


Or we could switch between the two. You know, a main reality, and an alternate one?
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Postby The free thinking few » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:40 pm

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Deus in Machina wrote:Of course! Del Toro would be perfect for this.
Not sure how I feel about the steampunk and anime stuff. Might work if nobody mentions it. Guy who lives in a trailer happens to have a clockwork leg, but it's never called attention to in-story, it's just there. It should stay grounded more or less in the real world, or at least a subtly creepy nightmare-parallel of the real world.


Or we could switch between the two. You know, a main reality, and an alternate one?

put a switch on the wall. Put it right next to the lightswitch and make it look exactly the same
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:40 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Deus in Machina wrote:Of course! Del Toro would be perfect for this.
Not sure how I feel about the steampunk and anime stuff. Might work if nobody mentions it. Guy who lives in a trailer happens to have a clockwork leg, but it's never called attention to in-story, it's just there. It should stay grounded more or less in the real world, or at least a subtly creepy nightmare-parallel of the real world.


Or we could switch between the two. You know, a main reality, and an alternate one?


Sounds awesome.

Reccomended character list:

Truthy
Minoritee
Nuclear Cthulu
Nana
Zeno
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From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:41 pm

Grenartia wrote:Or we could switch between the two. You know, a main reality, and an alternate one?

Nu. Dream sequence and reality sequence. As the story grinds on, the art (along with the main characters) begin to become unstable. And things appearing in the dream sequences start appearing in the reality sequences, until it becomes nigh-impossible to tell the difference.
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Postby Octabrinaland » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:42 pm

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Ewwww!
Is it possible to unthink things!
SEVERED PENISES!

your new here, trust me. You will get used to worse then this real fast *puts hands on shoulder*


Actually, Titanium City is another account I have. Forgot to log in to this one. :palm:

But still... severed penis! EWW!
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Postby Lucent Dawn » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:42 pm

That there's a movie in the works. :meh:
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:42 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Or we could switch between the two. You know, a main reality, and an alternate one?

Nu. Dream sequence and reality sequence. As the story grinds on, the art (along with the main characters) begin to become unstable. And things appearing in the dream sequences start appearing in the reality sequences, until it becomes nigh-impossible to tell the difference.


You win creativity.
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From a word to a word I was led to a word,
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I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:43 pm

Lucent Dawn wrote:That there's a movie in the works. :meh:


A comic actually. An NSG comic.
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Postby Deus in Machina » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:43 pm

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Deus in Machina wrote:I hold Frank Miller in very, very low esteem.

You're a woman. If it doesn't involve kitchens and sandwiches, what good is your opinion?

Yes, I am a woman. That's just the way the fucking genetic crapshoot rolled and I have to live with it. Doesn't mean you have to point it out all the time.
But seriously, why? I like Frank Miller. The man made Sin City. 'Nuff said.

Sin City the movie was decent, but Robert Rodriguez was holding his hand the entire time. You wanna see what it looks like when Frank Miller tries to direct a movie on his own, watch The Spirit.
As for his body of work in comic books, I just don't think there's anything of value. Dark Knight Returns was a total destruction of the character of Batman and its sequel was immeasurably worse, 300 was nothing but macho fascist posturing with giggle-worth homoerotic undertones, and Sin City was genetic noir pulp devoid of any artistry. It doesn't help that the artists he works with are universally terrible and that he's utterly incapable of creatign a female character who isn't a prostitute.

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Postby The free thinking few » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:43 pm

Octabrinaland wrote:
The free thinking few wrote:your new here, trust me. You will get used to worse then this real fast *puts hands on shoulder*


Actually, Titanium City is another account I have. Forgot to log in to this one. :palm:

But still... severed penis! EWW!

ya, idve preferred severed tits, but each there own *shrugs*
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:44 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:Reccomended character list:

Truthy
Minoritee
Nuclear Cthulu
Nana
Zeno

As this would be based around a sensationalized fictional account of Zeno's life, she would be naturally be the main character. At best, some of us would be major supporting characters. I'd like to be the previously mentioned shapeshifting octopus monster in a three-piece suit in the background of important scenes. Rarely noticed or brought up, yet seemingly more and at the sametime less important that what can be assumed.
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Postby Lucent Dawn » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:44 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Lucent Dawn wrote:That there's a movie in the works. :meh:


A comic actually. An NSG comic.

Oh, okay. It sounds extremely interesting.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:45 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Reccomended character list:

Truthy
Minoritee
Nuclear Cthulu
Nana
Zeno

As this would be based around a sensationalized fictional account of Zeno's life, she would be naturally be the main character. At best, some of us would be major supporting characters. I'd like to be the previously mentioned shapeshifting octopus monster in a three-piece suit in the background of important scenes. Rarely noticed or brought up, yet seemingly more and at the sametime less important that what can be assumed.


Makes sense, but you need at least one scene with Minoritee drinking.
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From a work to a work I was led to a work."
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I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

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Postby Octabrinaland » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:46 pm

The free thinking few wrote:
Octabrinaland wrote:
Actually, Titanium City is another account I have. Forgot to log in to this one. :palm:

But still... severed penis! EWW!

ya, idve preferred severed tits, but each there own *shrugs*


I'm with you there.
*walks into restaurant* Excuse me waiter, can I have dish of your finest severed breasts... a la mode!
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Postby Deus in Machina » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:46 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Or we could switch between the two. You know, a main reality, and an alternate one?

Nu. Dream sequence and reality sequence. As the story grinds on, the art (along with the main characters) begin to become unstable. And things appearing in the dream sequences start appearing in the reality sequences, until it becomes nigh-impossible to tell the difference.

Now THAT is a good idea. It follwos the same path as the unravelling of the mysteries surrounding the main character. The more we learn about her, the more we are drawn into her mind and the illusions of normalcy crumble.

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:46 pm

Alevuss wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Nitrogen is in the blood stream (that's part of the reason why one gets the Bends when rapidly undergoing pressure changes). CO2 can be gotten from the air, as usual. I'm pretty sure phosphorus is in cells, and potassium is in the muscles, IIRC. Hydrogen is in the blood, in water.


Off-topic: What's on your flag?


Eli Wallace and Chloe Armstrong from Stargate: Universe. Why?

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The Nuclear Fist wrote:You're a woman. If it doesn't involve kitchens and sandwiches, what good is your opinion?

Yes, I am a woman. That's just the way the fucking genetic crapshoot rolled and I have to live with it. Doesn't mean you have to point it out all the time.
But seriously, why? I like Frank Miller. The man made Sin City. 'Nuff said.

Sin City the movie was decent, but Robert Rodriguez was holding his hand the entire time. You wanna see what it looks like when Frank Miller tries to direct a movie on his own, watch The Spirit.
As for his body of work in comic books, I just don't think there's anything of value. Dark Knight Returns was a total destruction of the character of Batman and its sequel was immeasurably worse, 300 was nothing but macho fascist posturing with giggle-worth homoerotic undertones, and Sin City was genetic noir pulp devoid of any artistry. It doesn't help that the artists he works with are universally terrible and that he's utterly incapable of creatign a female character who isn't a prostitute.


What do you think of my Alt-universe idea?
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Postby Astrolinium » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:47 pm

Deus in Machina wrote:Dark Knight Returns was a total destruction of the character of Batman


I'm sorry that you're upset that TDKR's Batman kicked the campy, cheesy one in the balls until it died, but you're going to have to move on.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:47 pm

That I can't stand the sound of people throwing up.
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Postby Octabrinaland » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:48 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:That I can't stand the sound of people throwing up.


HHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH! *cough* HUARGH!

Sorry, what did you say?
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:48 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Deus in Machina wrote:Dark Knight Returns was a total destruction of the character of Batman


I'm sorry that you're upset that TDKR's Batman kicked the campy, cheesy one in the balls until it died, but you're going to have to move on.


Well, I wouldn't want to read about that Batman every month, but it certainly was a good one shot.
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From a work to a work I was led to a work."
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:49 pm

Octabrinaland wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:That I can't stand the sound of people throwing up.


HHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH! *cough* HUARGH!

Sorry, what did you say?


Heh. I feel sick.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:50 pm

Deus in Machina wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Nu. Dream sequence and reality sequence. As the story grinds on, the art (along with the main characters) begin to become unstable. And things appearing in the dream sequences start appearing in the reality sequences, until it becomes nigh-impossible to tell the difference.

Now THAT is a good idea. It follwos the same path as the unravelling of the mysteries surrounding the main character. The more we learn about her, the more we are drawn into her mind and the illusions of normalcy crumble.


That's kind of what I was thinking.

@ Uncle Vlad- Well, the thing is, the Dream and Reality sequences are alternates of each other.
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Postby Deus in Machina » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:50 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Deus in Machina wrote:Yes, I am a woman. That's just the way the fucking genetic crapshoot rolled and I have to live with it. Doesn't mean you have to point it out all the time.

Sin City the movie was decent, but Robert Rodriguez was holding his hand the entire time. You wanna see what it looks like when Frank Miller tries to direct a movie on his own, watch The Spirit.
As for his body of work in comic books, I just don't think there's anything of value. Dark Knight Returns was a total destruction of the character of Batman and its sequel was immeasurably worse, 300 was nothing but macho fascist posturing with giggle-worth homoerotic undertones, and Sin City was genetic noir pulp devoid of any artistry. It doesn't help that the artists he works with are universally terrible and that he's utterly incapable of creatign a female character who isn't a prostitute.


What do you think of my Alt-universe idea?

A bit too Silent Hill. I prefer what Vlad suggested earlier: a melding of realities as the characters' graps on reality becomes more unstable. A simple switching back-and-forth would enforce an order on the universe. This is about the breakdown of order.

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Postby The free thinking few » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:50 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Octabrinaland wrote:
HHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH! *cough* HUARGH!

Sorry, what did you say?


Heh. I feel sick.

just eat a few vomit flavored jelly beans
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The free thinking few wrote:You guys can never complain about my dirty mind as long as Zeno is around
:hug:

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