North Carolina Bans Same-Sex Marriage and Civil Unions

[Northern Dominus]

Honestly, I think I could have been somewhat pro-gay marriage if the constant anti-Republican rants and liberal economic policies didn't alienate me.

As it stands now, I'm glad to see that the liberals have been pushed back in yet another state.

This isn't a republican or an economy issue.

This is a matter of civil rights and liberties. This SHOULD go beyond party lines. Marriage is a fundamental right afforded to all citizens of the United States, so in addition to being morally void and reprehensible, Amendment One is unconstitutional.

You don't need to be of one party or another to recognize that and act accordingly.

[Gauthier]

Very glad North Carolina passed this amendment.

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Apparently today's religious right think Jesus is an emo douchebag.

[United Dependencies]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Well sure, what did you think all the heavenly souls would be eating at the great feast?

[New Asgariath]

Very glad North Carolina passed this amendment.

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Why do you think that religion is the reason people are anti-gay?

I don't even think Christianity makes any direct references to gay marriage. I for one am really only against gay rights because it is a manifestation of liberal influence, and I am for containing liberal politics.

[Hallistar]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Well sure, what did you think all the heavenly souls would be eating at the great feast?

[Desovia]

I think this is absolute disrespect

[Hallistar]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Why do you think that religion is the reason people are anti-gay?

I don't even think Christianity makes any direct references to gay marriage. I for one am really only against gay rights because it is a manifestation of liberal influence, and I am for containing liberal politics.

The Christ is risen guy makes really religious posts as well on other threads, im trying to see if thats his reason why for opposing it.

And what do you mean by manifestation of liberal influence?

[Kalibarr]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Why do you think that religion is the reason people are anti-gay?

I don't even think Christianity makes any direct references to gay marriage. I for one am really only against gay rights because it is a manifestation of liberal influence, and I am for containing liberal politics.

What is so bad about liberal policies that you oppose something because its associated with a certain political label?

[Avalar]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Why do you think that religion is the reason people are anti-gay?

I don't even think Christianity makes any direct references to gay marriage. I for one am really only against gay rights because it is a manifestation of liberal influence, and I am for containing liberal politics.

Jesus said "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" Now if you ask me I think their are a lot of sinners throwing rocks in this thread!!

[THE NEW NEWLY UNITED STATES]

Well thats what you get from a southern state

[New Asgariath]

Honestly, I think I could have been somewhat pro-gay marriage if the constant anti-Republican rants and liberal economic policies didn't alienate me.

As it stands now, I'm glad to see that the liberals have been pushed back in yet another state.

This isn't a republican or an economy issue.

This is a matter of civil rights and liberties. This SHOULD go beyond party lines. Marriage is a fundamental right afforded to all citizens of the United States, so in addition to being morally void and reprehensible, Amendment One is unconstitutional.

You don't need to be of one party or another to recognize that and act accordingly.

Because the current conduct of many (no, not all) liberals simply disgusts me.
Me: "Hmm, I guess I could see the sense of supporting gay rights."
Randomliberal142: "FUCKING REPUBLICAN RELIGIOUS MORALFUCK RICH PEOPLE"
Me: "Yeahhhhhh.... I don't think they want my help."

[Christ is Risen]

Very glad North Carolina passed this amendment.

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Plain and simple, The act of homosexuality is a sin. Now please read this whole post. Am I opposed to homosexuality? Yeah, I am. But in no way does that mean that I believe homosexuals will burn in hell. I agree that attraction to the same sex for some people is not a choice. Some people are born to be attracted to the same sex. That is not a sin. Acting upon that attraction though is a sin. Homosexuality is not the worst sin and in no way is unforgivable. Homosexuality is not even in the ten commandments which tells me that adultery, stealing, and lying are worse sins. Homosexuality is as much of a sin as fornication or pornography. Homosexuals are able to go to heaven as long as they except Christ as their Savior and repent of their sins, just like every other Christian.

[Hallistar]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Plain and simple, The act of homosexuality. Now please read this whole post. Am I opposed to homosexuality? Yeah, I am. But in no way does that mean that I believe homosexuals will burn in hell. I agree that attraction to the same sex for some people is not a choice. Some people are born to be attracted to the same sex. That is not a sin. Acting upon that attraction though is a sin. Homosexuality is not the worst sin and in no way is unforgivable. Homosexuality is not even in the ten commandments which tells me that adultery, stealing, and lying are worse sins. Homosexuality is as much of a sin as fornication or pornography. Homosexuals are able to go to heaven as long as they except Christ as their Savior and repent of their sins, just like every other Christian.

And you know any of this how?

Knowing what you're about to say ("The bible says it and its true"), I don't think this will get anywhere.

[Avalar]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Plain and simple, The act of homosexuality. Now please read this whole post. Am I opposed to homosexuality? Yeah, I am. But in no way does that mean that I believe homosexuals will burn in hell. I agree that attraction to the same sex for some people is not a choice. Some people are born to be attracted to the same sex. That is not a sin. Acting upon that attraction though is a sin. Homosexuality is not the worst sin and in no way is unforgivable. Homosexuality is not even in the ten commandments which tells me that adultery, stealing, and lying are worse sins. Homosexuality is as much of a sin as fornication or pornography. Homosexuals are able to go to heaven as long as they except Christ as their Savior and repent of their sins, just like every other Christian.

I agree with you. But they should still get married.

[Northern Dominus]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Plain and simple, The act of homosexuality. Now please read this whole post. Am I opposed to homosexuality? Yeah, I am. But in no way does that mean that I believe homosexuals will burn in hell. I agree that attraction to the same sex for some people is not a choice. Some people are born to be attracted to the same sex. That is not a sin. Acting upon that attraction though is a sin. Homosexuality is not the worst sin and in no way is unforgivable. Homosexuality is not even in the ten commandments which tells me that adultery, stealing, and lying are worse sins. Homosexuality is as much of a sin as fornication or pornography. Homosexuals are able to go to heaven as long as they except Christ as their Savior and repent of their sins, just like every other Christian.

And this isn't about your personal mode of worship, this is about fundamental rights and liberties, which is completely divorced from the church no matter how hard you might want it.

To put it in your terms, how would you like it if when put to a vote the majority of residents in your state decided that your faith suddenly wasn't entitled to the same tax exemptions or legal recognition that all other faiths were? That means heavy taxation, no recognition of your holidays or holy days for time off from work, and other rights afforded other religions.

Think a few people might get irritated over that?

[Kalibarr]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Plain and simple, The act of homosexuality. Now please read this whole post. Am I opposed to homosexuality? Yeah, I am. But in no way does that mean that I believe homosexuals will burn in hell. I agree that attraction to the same sex for some people is not a choice. Some people are born to be attracted to the same sex. That is not a sin. Acting upon that attraction though is a sin. Homosexuality is not the worst sin and in no way is unforgivable. Homosexuality is not even in the ten commandments which tells me that adultery, stealing, and lying are worse sins. Homosexuality is as much of a sin as fornication or pornography. Homosexuals are able to go to heaven as long as they except Christ as their Savior and repent of their sins, just like every other Christian.

Please tell me why your religious beliefs should determine the public policy of my country?

[Corvega]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Plain and simple, The act of homosexuality. Now please read this whole post. Am I opposed to homosexuality? Yeah, I am. But in no way does that mean that I believe homosexuals will burn in hell. I agree that attraction to the same sex for some people is not a choice. Some people are born to be attracted to the same sex. That is not a sin. Acting upon that attraction though is a sin. Homosexuality is not the worst sin and in no way is unforgivable. Homosexuality is not even in the ten commandments which tells me that adultery, stealing, and lying are worse sins. Homosexuality is as much of a sin as fornication or pornography. Homosexuals are able to go to heaven as long as they except Christ as their Savior and repent of their sins, just like every other Christian.

Born sick and expected to be healthy. Gotta love that idea.

[Cromarty]

Does it make Jesus feel happy inside or something? Is he preparing those barbecue skewers in hell for the billions of humans who dared to enjoy their lives and be themselves?

Plain and simple, The act of homosexuality. Now please read this whole post. Am I opposed to homosexuality? Yeah, I am. But in no way does that mean that I believe homosexuals will burn in hell. I agree that attraction to the same sex for some people is not a choice. Some people are born to be attracted to the same sex. That is not a sin. Acting upon that attraction though is a sin. Homosexuality is not the worst sin and in no way is unforgivable. Homosexuality is not even in the ten commandments which tells me that adultery, stealing, and lying are worse sins. Homosexuality is as much of a sin as fornication or pornography. Homosexuals are able to go to heaven as long as they except Christ as their Savior and repent of their sins, just like every other Christian.

I disagree with the assertion that homosexuality is a sin.

And the Bible agrees with me.

[Gallogach]

How dare I use my experience and viewpoints to shine a light into hatred and bigotry? No, the outrage should be how dare the citizens of North Carolina who voted in favor of Amendment One deny same-sex couples the same rights and privileges afford to straight couples. My service and sacrifice entitles me to a viewpoint and perspective that most of those voters don't have, and their votes sicken and disturb not only me but the vast majority of men and women in the armed forces.
Furthermore how dare you belittle me for detailing how I am personally offended by the blatant attack on civil rights and liberties? As I said I served my country defending those rights and liberties for ALL Americans, and while that does mean I was obligated to protect the bigoted ignoramuses who think this is a good thing, I also was obligated to protect the people they so adamantly hate and fear. Furthermore, the same gay lesbian bisexual and transsexual people that they so fear also put themselves in harms way, and to have their sacrifices rewarded with a state so publicly stating that they're unworthy of the rights they fought to defend is a vile travesty of justice to say the least.

Are you even aware of what the ban entails? This isn't marriage in the sense of going into some building and having some holy person bless your union while relatives look on, this is a ban on a valid legal state-recognized marriages. This ban means that same-sex couples aren't allowed the same tax breaks for cohabitation as other couples, not allowed to see each other in the hospital or be informed of their status, not able to collect bereavement benefits when a partner dies. It is the start of a slippery slope.
Here is just a partial list of the benefits and privileges of marriage. This is what same-sex couples are now denied in North Carolina.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/mar_bene.htm

And before you go further how this isn't constitutional, marriage is a fundamental right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_rights
And justifying Amendment One as anything other than unconstitutional and a violation of civil rights is not only flawed and flat-out wrong, as I stated earlier I view it as a personal slap in the face and wholly unworthy of my efforts and sacrifices while serving in the US Military.

I am fully aware of the fact that you won't be given the same legal privileges. That is why I said that the issue is merely legal. They don't stop you from getting married according to your faith so that has not been infringed upon. You won't get a tax break and you can't get legal privileges automatically is all that is at stake. Let me debunk the privileges argument right now. There is nothing you can't get through marriage that you cannot do for anyone else through a legal process. A perfect example of this step would be power of attorney (you should be familiar with this if you have ever deployed). And you not being able to collect benefits is a lie. Ever heard of a will or the SGLI? Being in the military, you can designate whoever you want your military insurance to go to. The majority of everything else in that list is negligible because they can't have children. They won't need divorce protection if they are never married. They especially wont be needing it if they can't open up joint accounts (which is also a blatant lie). They still get veterans benefits if they serve. And the rest is pretty much covered with what I said above.

Fundamental rights aren't being abridged here. Marriage has always been defined as a union between a man and a woman in a legal sense. It has been since our foundation so guess what? None of our FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS have been infringed upon. Take that opinionated fallacy elsewhere.

So the only argument you really have here is that a person cannot get a tax break. That is it.



And don't claim that you are somehow championing a cause of shedding light on bigotry and hatred because you are in the military service. There is no attack on civil liberties as I have stated before and you have yet to give me an example of how there is one. Since you have yet to give me a substantive argument (the few you have were wikipedia and some homemade website. Neither of which would survive a high school paper for scrutiny), I have to conclude you have NONE.

Don't say that gays, lesbians, trans are not being afforded the same freedoms as everyone else. They are as I have explained above. NOTHING has been taken away from them.


By the way, the fact that you are spouting about your service and sacrifice (and combining it with the disclaimer you had at the top of not wanting to talk about what you did in the military) leads me to believe you were a staff wienie chaptered out of the military for being worthless. The kind of glory hog who goes to bars wearing their old uniforms letting everyone know they've been deployed in hopes that they will pick up a girl or somehow get free drinks. In reality you probably ate Burger King every day on deployment and the closest thing you got to combat was an IED exploding halfway across the city. One that caused you to piss yourself and get a CAB for doing so. You glorify your 'sacrifice' to offset the real scumbag you are. People like you give real Soldiers a bad name and you sicken me. <= That is mere speculation however. I am sure that you have a completely different reason for the way you behave.

[Christ is Risen]

Plain and simple, The act of homosexuality. Now please read this whole post. Am I opposed to homosexuality? Yeah, I am. But in no way does that mean that I believe homosexuals will burn in hell. I agree that attraction to the same sex for some people is not a choice. Some people are born to be attracted to the same sex. That is not a sin. Acting upon that attraction though is a sin. Homosexuality is not the worst sin and in no way is unforgivable. Homosexuality is not even in the ten commandments which tells me that adultery, stealing, and lying are worse sins. Homosexuality is as much of a sin as fornication or pornography. Homosexuals are able to go to heaven as long as they except Christ as their Savior and repent of their sins, just like every other Christian.

I disagree with the assertion that homosexuality is a sin.

And the Bible agrees with me.

Romans 1:26-27 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

[Cromarty]

I disagree with the assertion that homosexuality is a sin.

And the Bible agrees with me.

Romans 1:26-27 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Speaks of orgies undertaken by a specific group of former Christians as part of a pagan fertility religion in Rome at the time.

Try reading the whole chapter.

[Moon Cows]

I disagree with the assertion that homosexuality is a sin.

And the Bible agrees with me.

Romans 1:26-27 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.

Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV) - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Genesis 13:13 Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were SINNING GREATLY against the Lord.

Genesis 19:4-5, 11-13, 24 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. [5] They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have SEX WITH THEM.” ... [11] Then [the messengers from God] struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door. [12] The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here — sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, [13] because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that HE has sent us to DESTROY it.” ... [24] Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah — from the LORD out of the heavens.

Romans 1:18, 24-28, 32 The WRATH OF GOD is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.... [24] Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the DEGRADING of their bodies with one another. [25] They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen. [26] Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for UNNATURAL ones. [27] In the same way the MEN ALSO ABANDONED NATURAL RELATIONS WITH WOMEN AND WERE INFLAMED WITH LUST FOR ONE ANOTHER. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their PERVERSION. [28] Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.... [32] Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Matthew 19:4-5 “Haven’t you read,” [Jesus] replied, “that at the beginning the CREATOR ‘made them MALE AND FEMALE,’ [5] and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?

I think people need to learn to accept others beliefs before they can begin to understand them. Please, don't deny what is right in front of you.

[Northern Dominus]

How dare I use my experience and viewpoints to shine a light into hatred and bigotry? No, the outrage should be how dare the citizens of North Carolina who voted in favor of Amendment One deny same-sex couples the same rights and privileges afford to straight couples. My service and sacrifice entitles me to a viewpoint and perspective that most of those voters don't have, and their votes sicken and disturb not only me but the vast majority of men and women in the armed forces.
Furthermore how dare you belittle me for detailing how I am personally offended by the blatant attack on civil rights and liberties? As I said I served my country defending those rights and liberties for ALL Americans, and while that does mean I was obligated to protect the bigoted ignoramuses who think this is a good thing, I also was obligated to protect the people they so adamantly hate and fear. Furthermore, the same gay lesbian bisexual and transsexual people that they so fear also put themselves in harms way, and to have their sacrifices rewarded with a state so publicly stating that they're unworthy of the rights they fought to defend is a vile travesty of justice to say the least.

Are you even aware of what the ban entails? This isn't marriage in the sense of going into some building and having some holy person bless your union while relatives look on, this is a ban on a valid legal state-recognized marriages. This ban means that same-sex couples aren't allowed the same tax breaks for cohabitation as other couples, not allowed to see each other in the hospital or be informed of their status, not able to collect bereavement benefits when a partner dies. It is the start of a slippery slope.
Here is just a partial list of the benefits and privileges of marriage. This is what same-sex couples are now denied in North Carolina.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/mar_bene.htm

And before you go further how this isn't constitutional, marriage is a fundamental right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_rights
And justifying Amendment One as anything other than unconstitutional and a violation of civil rights is not only flawed and flat-out wrong, as I stated earlier I view it as a personal slap in the face and wholly unworthy of my efforts and sacrifices while serving in the US Military.

I am fully aware of the fact that you won't be given the same legal privileges. That is why I said that the issue is merely legal. They don't stop you from getting married according to your faith so that has not been infringed upon. You won't get a tax break and you can't get legal privileges automatically is all that is at stake. Let me debunk the privileges argument right now. There is nothing you can't get through marriage that you cannot do for anyone else through a legal process. A perfect example of this step would be power of attorney (you should be familiar with this if you have ever deployed). And you not being able to collect benefits is a lie. Ever heard of a will or the SGLI? Being in the military, you can designate whoever you want your military insurance to go to. The majority of everything else in that list is negligible because they can't have children. They won't need divorce protection if they are never married. They especially wont be needing it if they can't open up joint accounts (which is also a blatant lie). They still get veterans benefits if they serve. And the rest is pretty much covered with what I said above.

Fundamental rights aren't being abridged here. Marriage has always been defined as a union between a man and a woman in a legal sense. It has been since our foundation so guess what? None of our FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS have been infringed upon. Take that opinionated fallacy elsewhere.

So the only argument you really have here is that a person cannot get a tax break. That is it.



And don't claim that you are somehow championing a cause of shedding light on bigotry and hatred because you are in the military service. There is no attack on civil liberties as I have stated before and you have yet to give me an example of how there is one. Since you have yet to give me a substantive argument (the few you have were wikipedia and some homemade website. Neither of which would survive a high school paper for scrutiny), I have to conclude you have NONE.

Don't say that gays, lesbians, trans are not being afforded the same freedoms as everyone else. They are as I have explained above. NOTHING has been taken away from them.


By the way, the fact that you are spouting about your service and sacrifice (and combining it with the disclaimer you had at the top of not wanting to talk about what you did in the military) leads me to believe you were a staff wienie chaptered out of the military for being worthless. The kind of glory hog who goes to bars wearing their old uniforms letting everyone know they've been deployed in hopes that they will pick up a girl or somehow get free drinks. In reality you probably ate Burger King every day on deployment and the closest thing you got to combat was an IED exploding halfway across the city. One that caused you to piss yourself and get a CAB for doing so. You glorify your 'sacrifice' to offset the real scumbag you are. People like you give real Soldiers a bad name and you sicken me. <= That is mere speculation however. I am sure that you have a completely different reason for the way you behave.

And you've provided how many sources to defend your position exactly?

Yes I'm familiar with POA and the other concepts you mentioned. However there's always a legal loophole, and in the case of North Carolina that amendment could be used to circumvent any Power of Attorney privileges or written wills. Again the amendment is a slippery slope.
And you didn't like one source? Ok how about another:
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/ ... 30190.html
Gee they say the same things.

And since you have yet to support your own argument with anything other than hyperbole, exaggeration, and feigned outrage, I also have to conclude that your arguments are baseless and invalid.

As for my service... I don't have to justify or explain myself to you. I was no REMF and was frequently in harms way, and that's all or anybody else on this site really needs to know.

As far as behavior goes, I'd wager that championing civil rights and equality for all US citizens and humans trumps ranting and hyperbole any day of the week, but hey whatever turns your crank.

[Cromarty]

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.

Doesn't apply to Christians.

Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

Refers to orgies undertaken by members of a pagan fertility cult. It is the orgies God condemns, not the homosexuality, especially as it doesn't homosexuality in there at all.

I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV) - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Mistranslated.

Genesis 13:13 Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were SINNING GREATLY against the Lord.

Genesis 19:4-5, 11-13, 24 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. [5] They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have SEX WITH THEM.” ... [11] Then [the messengers from God] struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door. [12] The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here — sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, [13] because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that HE has sent us to DESTROY it.” ... [24] Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah — from the LORD out of the heavens.

The sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were not homosexuality.

Romans 1:18, 24-28, 32 The WRATH OF GOD is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.... [24] Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the DEGRADING of their bodies with one another. [25] They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen. [26] Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for UNNATURAL ones. [27] In the same way the MEN ALSO ABANDONED NATURAL RELATIONS WITH WOMEN AND WERE INFLAMED WITH LUST FOR ONE ANOTHER. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their PERVERSION. [28] Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.... [32] Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

See my above comments on Romans.

Matthew 19:4-5 “Haven’t you read,” [Jesus] replied, “that at the beginning the CREATOR ‘made them MALE AND FEMALE,’ [5] and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?

Is irrelevant to homosexuality.

[Desperate Measures]

Romans 1:26-27 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.

Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV) - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Genesis 13:13 Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were SINNING GREATLY against the Lord.

Genesis 19:4-5, 11-13, 24 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. [5] They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have SEX WITH THEM.” ... [11] Then [the messengers from God] struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door. [12] The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here — sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, [13] because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that HE has sent us to DESTROY it.” ... [24] Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah — from the LORD out of the heavens.

Romans 1:18, 24-28, 32 The WRATH OF GOD is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.... [24] Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the DEGRADING of their bodies with one another. [25] They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen. [26] Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for UNNATURAL ones. [27] In the same way the MEN ALSO ABANDONED NATURAL RELATIONS WITH WOMEN AND WERE INFLAMED WITH LUST FOR ONE ANOTHER. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their PERVERSION. [28] Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.... [32] Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Matthew 19:4-5 “Haven’t you read,” [Jesus] replied, “that at the beginning the CREATOR ‘made them MALE AND FEMALE,’ [5] and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?

I think people need to learn to accept others beliefs before they can begin to understand them. Please, don't deny what is right in front of you.

There is hardly a clear consensus on what you claim is right in front of us. Lookee how open to interpretation the bible is:

"The Six Bible Passages Used To Condemn Homosexuals


This material is given in one long page so that you can more easily print it out to read and study and share with others. You can also move to each main section by clicking on the Scripture references:

Genesis 19:5 Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13

Romans 1:26-27

I Corinthians 6:9; I Timothy 1:9-10

In preparation for each passage, read the entire chapter."
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"The average person assumes that the Bible clearly condemns male to male sexual intercourse as "sodomy" and that the city of Sodom was destroyed because of homosexuality, which is seen as the worst of all sins in the Bible. These assumptions are based on no evidence at all in the Bible."

http://www.otkenyer.hu/truluck/six_bible_passages.html