Do you consider Humans to be Animals?

[Sociobiology]

Invent things.

many animals invent tools and new ideas.

[Sociobiology]

Yes they do, any eukaryotic organism who's cells do not possess a cell wall is an animal.


Innate portion? Yes it is, we are all born as born as animals.

Prove it. You can't. It's a word issue.

If I use the word differently you quite simply can't be correct, and I can't be wrong because it isn't an issue of fact, it's an issue of labeling.

'ones' being animals.
We are animals, we are eukaryotic organisms, we share portions of our DNA with animals. We don't photosynthesise, we digest. Our cells lack cell walls, we are animals.

As I said, that's all temporary.

life is temporary, humans included.

[Sociobiology]

Our cells are Eukaryotes, distinguishing us from Bacteria and other singled-cell organisms
Our cells have flagella, distinguishing us from plants
Our cells lack a cell wall, distinguishing us from Fungi, therefore we are animals.
And it is quite obvious we are all born (I am aware of in-vitro fertilisation but we come out of a woman's womb nonetheless).

So you are like Bluth and his 'Christianity' ?
Well I don't think any primate is animal, you can't prove that's wrong, can you?

But currently we are animals.

Personally I don't care. Animals aren't all that interesting to me. Call primates what you will.

Except animals don't have the capacity to ever change. Therefore humans aren't animals. Similar perhaps.

sure they do. many animals use tools, some invent new concepts, and of course all evolve.

heck chimps hunt with spears.

[Straight From Above]

Personally I don't care. Animals aren't all that interesting to me. Call primates what you will.

Except animals don't have the capacity to ever change. Therefore humans aren't animals. Similar perhaps.

sure they do. many animals use tools, some invent new concepts, and of course all evolve.

heck chimps hunt with spears.[/quote]

You know what I'd pay money to see?

An animal of some kind pull a Glock on Ted Nugent.

[Dyakovo]

sure they do. many animals use tools, some invent new concepts, and of course all evolve.

heck chimps hunt with spears.

You know what I'd pay money to see?

An animal of some kind pull a Glock on Ted Nugent.

How much money?

[Straight From Above]

You know what I'd pay money to see?

An animal of some kind pull a Glock on Ted Nugent.

How much money?

Six USD.

But for me, that's allot. I'm poor.

[Dyakovo]

How much money?

Six USD.

But for me, that's allot. I'm poor.

Not nearly enough to cover the training costs...

[Sociobiology]

neither have humans.
when the technology you describe is invented it will probably be tested on animals first.

We are well on our way.

Actually pieces already have been, but the full result will in all likelyhood remain a human achievement.

yea probably not, there is not much advantage to a non-biological existence.

[Sociobiology]

Six USD.

But for me, that's allot. I'm poor.

Not nearly enough to cover the training costs...

training thats not even enough to get the chimp.

[Dyakovo]

Not nearly enough to cover the training costs...

training thats not even enough to get the chimp.

Well, if you already have the chimp... And the Glock...

[Sociobiology]

Perhaps you aren't familiar with evolution, but all life has the capacity to change.

Quit argueing a strawman point. I specifically meant change between kingdoms.

which does happen, kingdoms are not true groupings, some kingdoms are actually part of other ones. Which is why that system is more or less vestigial at this point abd has been replaced by cladistics.

[Geniasis]

training thats not even enough to get the chimp.

Well, if you already have the chimp... And the Glock...

Training shouldn't be that expensive. Just teach it to harness its rage.

[Straight From Above]

Six USD.

But for me, that's allot. I'm poor.

Not nearly enough to cover the training costs...

Well, we'll just have to hope the situation arrises naturally.

Like that time Rush Limbaugh got addicted to pain pills.

[The Emerald Legion]

We are well on our way.

Actually pieces already have been, but the full result will in all likelyhood remain a human achievement.

yea probably not, there is not much advantage to a non-biological existence.

There is tons of advantage.

[Geniasis]

yea probably not, there is not much advantage to a non-biological existence.

There is tons of advantage.

Such as?

[Hammurab]

There is tons of advantage.

Such as?

Less diarrhea?

[Sociobiology]

yea probably not, there is not much advantage to a non-biological existence.

There is tons of advantage.

Can't think of any, except being better in hard vaccum.
except rotary motion.

[Geniasis]

Such as?

Less diarrhea?

All the 7/11 taquitos, none of the gastric payback? Sold.

Upload me to the mainframe plz

[The Emerald Legion]

There is tons of advantage.

Can't think of any, except being better in hard vaccum.

Exactly. I personally want to go to space sometime.

[Hammurab]

Less diarrhea?

All the 7/11 taquitos, none of the gastric payback? Sold.

Upload me to the mainframe plz

With our luck, the Post-Human Self-awareness TechnoPlatform will have an operating system by Microsoft and we'll all be stuck reliving the memories of Crispin Glover until the patch is available in ten million eons.

[Sociobiology]

Can't think of any, except being better in hard vaccum.

Exactly. I personally want to go to space sometime.

notice I struck that you can make a biological system that is just as good, if not better. heck humans are already pretty good in vaccum, we just need an avian breathing system and a nictitating membrane

[The Emerald Legion]

Exactly. I personally want to go to space sometime.

notice I struck that you can make a biological system that is just as good, if not better.

Except biology is inferior. Flesh is just junk.

[Geniasis]

All the 7/11 taquitos, none of the gastric payback? Sold.

Upload me to the mainframe plz

With our luck, the Post-Human Self-awareness TechnoPlatform will have an operating system by Microsoft and we'll all be stuck reliving the memories of Crispin Glover until the patch is available in ten million eons.

Or worse, they'll release a patch for some minor inconvenience and screw up something big.

[Hammurab]

Or worse, they'll release a patch for some minor inconvenience and screw up something big.

Heh, right. The patch was designed to fix the inability to take the form of a chrome-covered female version of Abraham Lincoln, but once you install the patch you can only take the form of a chrome-covered female version of Abraham Lincoln.

[Geniasis]

Or worse, they'll release a patch for some minor inconvenience and screw up something big.

Heh, right. The patch was designed to fix the inability to take the form of a chrome-covered female version of Abraham Lincoln, but once you install the patch you can only take the form of a chrome-covered female version of Abraham Lincoln.

Plus it also introduces a glitch when you transition zones where you might just turn into a giant penis.