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Yes, we are animals.
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No, we are not animals.
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Postby ReVaQ » Sat May 12, 2012 5:32 am

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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat May 12, 2012 5:50 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Yes they do, any eukaryotic organism who's cells do not possess a cell wall is an animal.


Innate portion? Yes it is, we are all born as born as animals.


Prove it. You can't. It's a word issue.

If I use the word differently you quite simply can't be correct, and I can't be wrong because it isn't an issue of fact, it's an issue of labeling.

Our cells are Eukaryotes, distinguishing us from Bacteria and other singled-cell organisms
Our cells have flagella, distinguishing us from plants
Our cells lack a cell wall, distinguishing us from Fungi, therefore we are animals.
And it is quite obvious we are all born (I am aware of in-vitro fertilisation but we come out of a woman's womb nonetheless).

So you are like Bluth and his 'Christianity' ?
Well I don't think any primate is animal, you can't prove that's wrong, can you?
Chinese Regions wrote:'ones' being animals.
We are animals, we are eukaryotic organisms, we share portions of our DNA with animals. We don't photosynthesise, we digest. Our cells lack cell walls, we are animals.


As I said, that's all temporary.

But currently we are animals.
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Postby Mr Badger » Sat May 12, 2012 5:50 am

Being eukaryotic, multi-cell organisms that can move at will, yes we are animals.
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Postby The Drone Empire » Sat May 12, 2012 5:58 am

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat May 12, 2012 6:20 am

Chinese Regions wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Prove it. You can't. It's a word issue.

If I use the word differently you quite simply can't be correct, and I can't be wrong because it isn't an issue of fact, it's an issue of labeling.

Our cells are Eukaryotes, distinguishing us from Bacteria and other singled-cell organisms
Our cells have flagella, distinguishing us from plants
Our cells lack a cell wall, distinguishing us from Fungi, therefore we are animals.
And it is quite obvious we are all born (I am aware of in-vitro fertilisation but we come out of a woman's womb nonetheless).

So you are like Bluth and his 'Christianity' ?
Well I don't think any primate is animal, you can't prove that's wrong, can you?

As I said, that's all temporary.

But currently we are animals.


Personally I don't care. Animals aren't all that interesting to me. Call primates what you will.

Except animals don't have the capacity to ever change. Therefore humans aren't animals. Similar perhaps.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat May 12, 2012 7:03 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Our cells are Eukaryotes, distinguishing us from Bacteria and other singled-cell organisms
Our cells have flagella, distinguishing us from plants
Our cells lack a cell wall, distinguishing us from Fungi, therefore we are animals.
And it is quite obvious we are all born (I am aware of in-vitro fertilisation but we come out of a woman's womb nonetheless).

So you are like Bluth and his 'Christianity' ?
Well I don't think any primate is animal, you can't prove that's wrong, can you?

But currently we are animals.


Personally I don't care. Animals aren't all that interesting to me. Call primates what you will.

Except animals don't have the capacity to ever change. Therefore humans aren't animals. Similar perhaps.

That distinguishes humans from other animals but we are still animals, we belong to the same Kingdom. Kingdoms and domains are defined by the structure and properties of their cells. We are multi-cellular, that defines our domain; Eukaryota, our cells have flagella and lack cell walls and plastids, that defines our kingdom, which is Animalia, animals.
Animals do change, ever heard of metamorphosis and mutation?
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat May 12, 2012 7:09 am

Chinese Regions wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Personally I don't care. Animals aren't all that interesting to me. Call primates what you will.

Except animals don't have the capacity to ever change. Therefore humans aren't animals. Similar perhaps.

That distinguishes humans from other animals but we are still animals, we belong to the same Kingdom. Kingdoms and domains are defined by the structure and properties of their cells. We are multi-cellular, that defines our domain; Eukaryota, our cells have flagella and lack cell walls and plastids, that defines our kingdom, which is Animalia, animals.
Animals do change, ever heard of metamorphosis and mutation?


They do not change into machines.
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Postby Sociobiology » Sat May 12, 2012 7:11 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:That distinguishes humans from other animals but we are still animals, we belong to the same Kingdom. Kingdoms and domains are defined by the structure and properties of their cells. We are multi-cellular, that defines our domain; Eukaryota, our cells have flagella and lack cell walls and plastids, that defines our kingdom, which is Animalia, animals.
Animals do change, ever heard of metamorphosis and mutation?


They do not change into machines.

neither have humans.
when the technology you describe is invented it will probably be tested on animals first.
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Postby Central Lothian » Sat May 12, 2012 7:13 am

I tried using photosynthesis. That failed. I then wondered if I was a mineral - I had to get up, so I failed that one. So I must be an animal.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat May 12, 2012 7:13 am

Sociobiology wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
They do not change into machines.

neither have humans.
when the technology you describe is invented it will probably be tested on animals first.


We are well on our way.

Actually pieces already have been, but the full result will in all likelyhood remain a human achievement.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 12, 2012 7:15 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Our cells are Eukaryotes, distinguishing us from Bacteria and other singled-cell organisms
Our cells have flagella, distinguishing us from plants
Our cells lack a cell wall, distinguishing us from Fungi, therefore we are animals.
And it is quite obvious we are all born (I am aware of in-vitro fertilisation but we come out of a woman's womb nonetheless).

So you are like Bluth and his 'Christianity' ?
Well I don't think any primate is animal, you can't prove that's wrong, can you?

But currently we are animals.


Personally I don't care. Animals aren't all that interesting to me. Call primates what you will.

Except animals don't have the capacity to ever change. Therefore humans aren't animals. Similar perhaps.

Perhaps you aren't familiar with evolution, but all life has the capacity to change.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat May 12, 2012 7:23 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Personally I don't care. Animals aren't all that interesting to me. Call primates what you will.

Except animals don't have the capacity to ever change. Therefore humans aren't animals. Similar perhaps.

Perhaps you aren't familiar with evolution, but all life has the capacity to change.


Quit argueing a strawman point. I specifically meant change between kingdoms.
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Postby Forster Keys » Sat May 12, 2012 7:25 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Perhaps you aren't familiar with evolution, but all life has the capacity to change.


Quit argueing a strawman point. I specifically meant change between kingdoms.


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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 12, 2012 7:27 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Perhaps you aren't familiar with evolution, but all life has the capacity to change.


Quit argueing a strawman point. I specifically meant change between kingdoms.

Putting your brain on a USB stick won't change your taxonomy.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat May 12, 2012 7:57 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:That distinguishes humans from other animals but we are still animals, we belong to the same Kingdom. Kingdoms and domains are defined by the structure and properties of their cells. We are multi-cellular, that defines our domain; Eukaryota, our cells have flagella and lack cell walls and plastids, that defines our kingdom, which is Animalia, animals.
Animals do change, ever heard of metamorphosis and mutation?


They do not change into machines.

So you do not bother to target my first point?
All living things are machines, they all change energy from one form to another.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat May 12, 2012 8:03 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Perhaps you aren't familiar with evolution, but all life has the capacity to change.


Quit argueing a strawman point. I specifically meant change between kingdoms.

Singled cell organisms evolved into multi-cellular organisms, they are both different domains and therefore different kingdoms.
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Postby Thaipursia » Sat May 12, 2012 8:14 am

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Thaipursia wrote:Yes. Scienticifically , humans are a species of animal , of the order primata, the family hominid. Humans are part of the family of Gaia, not some creation born apart from the other species of this planet.


That isn't what I refer to as human. The mind is what makes you a human. The body is not.



The mind is part of the body. Once a body dies the mind goes with it. The two are part of the one.

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Postby Jezland » Sat May 12, 2012 8:17 am

Frankly there's an end point to all this. You can't argue with the experts in the Bloodhound Gang - and they know that you and me, baby, ain't nothing but mammals...

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Postby Alexlantis » Sat May 12, 2012 8:22 am

From a biology perspective, yes, humans are animals. Very special animals who've managed to do great things, but animals nonetheless.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat May 12, 2012 8:28 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Thaipursia wrote:Yes. Scienticifically , humans are a species of animal , of the order primata, the family hominid. Humans are part of the family of Gaia, not some creation born apart from the other species of this planet.


That isn't what I refer to as human. The mind is what makes you a human. The body is not.

The mind cannot exist without the body. The mind is the calculations the brain, which is part of the body, does.
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Postby Hebalobia » Sat May 12, 2012 8:34 am

i'm an animal and proud of it. Of course the rest of the animal kingdom is pretty embarressed about having us as relatives. :blush:

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat May 12, 2012 9:09 am

Chinese Regions wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
They do not change into machines.

So you do not bother to target my first point?
All living things are machines, they all change energy from one form to another.


That does not a machine make.

Chinese Regions wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
That isn't what I refer to as human. The mind is what makes you a human. The body is not.

The mind cannot exist without the body. The mind is the calculations the brain, which is part of the body, does.


Yes. Which is why uploading is of paramount importance. Need to get rid of this faulty wetware.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 12, 2012 9:14 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:So you do not bother to target my first point?
All living things are machines, they all change energy from one form to another.


That does not a machine make.

No, the part where they process input into output is what makes them machines.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat May 12, 2012 9:21 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:So you do not bother to target my first point?
All living things are machines, they all change energy from one form to another.


That does not a machine make.

Yes it does, I thought you would at least be non-ignorant to know that.
So are you going to argue that humans are not Eukaryota? Do you hate Linnaeus and Darwin?

Chinese Regions wrote:The mind cannot exist without the body. The mind is the calculations the brain, which is part of the body, does.


Yes. Which is why uploading is of paramount importance. Need to get rid of this faulty wetware.

What has that got to do with anything?
The body is what makes us human. The mind is part of that, it is completely obvious are bodies and genes are that of animals.
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