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Do you consider Human Beings to be Animals?

Yes, we are animals.
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No, we are not animals.
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Total votes : 512

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Talrent
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Postby Talrent » Fri May 11, 2012 4:44 pm

I'd say humans are animals.

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Postby Hyrull » Fri May 11, 2012 4:47 pm

Talrent wrote:I'd say humans are animals.

I agree

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Postby Artanili Datium » Fri May 11, 2012 4:48 pm

Hydralis wrote:
Straight From Above wrote:
Especially if you include Orks.


Alright, let me correct myself in that. We are the most advanced sentient animal.


Term is called : Sapient.

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Postby Valdehmar » Fri May 11, 2012 4:52 pm

Artanili Datium wrote:
Hydralis wrote:
Alright, let me correct myself in that. We are the most advanced sentient animal.


Term is called : Sapient.


Humans are both Sentient and Sapient.
Primates are Sentient but not Sapient.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Fri May 11, 2012 4:53 pm

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Ridicularia wrote:Not if you're measuring, say, ability to obtain oxygen from water, or ability to withstand radiation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water

http://app2.nea.gov.sg/topics_radiation.aspx

Humans win.

But our bodies themselves don't necessarily do that, a scorpion and the awesome tardigrade can withstand more radiation than a human can.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri May 11, 2012 4:55 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:

But our bodies themselves don't necessarily do that, a scorpion and the awesome tardigrade can withstand more radiation than a human can.


Our bodies aren't human. So...
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Postby Chinese Regions » Fri May 11, 2012 4:57 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Huskvarneque wrote:Yes, we are, no real argument to the fact. :)


No other animal comes even close to the way humans behave? How about that. There are a million and one different types of everything, and yet humans are unique.

Humans have eukaryotic cells that lack cell walls, plastids and chlorophyll . They are animals.
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Postby New Unsociety » Fri May 11, 2012 4:58 pm

Homo Sapiens.

That's a species allright.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri May 11, 2012 4:58 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
No other animal comes even close to the way humans behave? How about that. There are a million and one different types of everything, and yet humans are unique.

Humans have eukaryotic cells that lack cell walls, plastids and chlorophyll . They are animals.


For now we do.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Fri May 11, 2012 5:00 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Humans have eukaryotic cells that lack cell walls, plastids and chlorophyll . They are animals.


For now we do.

I don't see any reason to become plant like.
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Postby Straight From Above » Fri May 11, 2012 5:00 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Humans have eukaryotic cells that lack cell walls, plastids and chlorophyll . They are animals.


For now we do.


Good point.

The other day I caught my son in the bathroom, photosynthesizing.
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Postby Dansbruck » Fri May 11, 2012 5:01 pm

Very advanced animals, yes, but animals all the same.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri May 11, 2012 5:22 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
For now we do.

I don't see any reason to become plant like.


I don't see any reason to remain biological.

Let's join the mineral kingdom.
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Postby Valdehmar » Fri May 11, 2012 5:25 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:I don't see any reason to become plant like.


I don't see any reason to remain biological.

Let's join the mineral kingdom.


Who likes minerals? NOT ME!

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Postby Sociobiology » Fri May 11, 2012 5:28 pm

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Tlaceceyaya wrote:I was separating the components of the sentence. Scientifically (adjective) animals (Like fat animals) don't exist, or animals do not exist in a scientific sense?


I added something to your quote of me.

Scientifically, Animals don't exist.


sure they do animals (or Metazoa) are the most common ancestor of Porifera and Homo sapiens and all of its descendants.
it is a valid monophyletic group.

Fellskie wrote:Humans are animals. There's a lot of scientific proof.


There can't be scientific proof of humans animal status because animal is a slot in a sorting system. It's not an innate portion of somethings being.

It is part of their history/ancestry.
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Postby Atalem » Fri May 11, 2012 5:49 pm

Well, yes!

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Postby Pendragonia » Fri May 11, 2012 5:50 pm

Zonolia wrote:So yea was thinking about this earlier and I've never seen a thread on NS about it...so...NS...what do you think? Are we, humans, animals or something different?

Personally I consider us to be animals and follow the current scientific stance that we're of the kindom animalia and all that good stuff...so yea what do you think and why?

And no, I don't mean animal as in ruthless and horrid...I meant it as in do you consider humans to be an animal as in scientifically in the
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens

or do you reject that all and claim we are not?...as always if so, why?...

Sigh, NS really, anyways I am not asking this because I'm questioning it I ask it because I wonder if any of you question it.


Being a misanthrope, it is not out of character for me to say humans are animals in the pejorative sence. However, one should not ascribe to malice what can be explained via stupidity. Thus, humans aren't (in general) evil, just so fucking dumb.
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Postby The Alchemists Guild » Fri May 11, 2012 5:53 pm

I haven't read a single word of this thread other than the title so I've no idea if this has any relevance, but I can say one thing. We're sure as shit not plants.
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Postby SaintB » Fri May 11, 2012 6:03 pm

The Alchemists Guild wrote:We're sure as shit not plants.


What she said.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat May 12, 2012 4:03 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:I was separating the components of the sentence. Scientifically (adjective) animals (Like fat animals) don't exist, or animals do not exist in a scientific sense?


I added something to your quote of me.

Scientifically, Animals don't exist.

Yes they do, any eukaryotic organism who's cells do not possess a cell wall is an animal.

The Emerald Legion wrote:There can't be scientific proof of humans animal status because animal is a slot in a sorting system. It's not an innate portion of somethings being.

It's pretty much all semantics

Innate portion? Yes it is, we are all born as born as animals.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat May 12, 2012 4:10 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Huskvarneque wrote:
How do you mean "behave"? All animals behave differently. Please, elaborate.


Invent things. Search out truth often at the cost of evolutionary survival. Think.

Humans are the only ones who do that.

'ones' being animals.
We are animals, we are eukaryotic organisms, we share portions of our DNA with animals. We don't photosynthesise, we digest. Our cells lack cell walls, we are animals.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat May 12, 2012 4:54 am

Chinese Regions wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
I added something to your quote of me.

Scientifically, Animals don't exist.

Yes they do, any eukaryotic organism who's cells do not possess a cell wall is an animal.

The Emerald Legion wrote:There can't be scientific proof of humans animal status because animal is a slot in a sorting system. It's not an innate portion of somethings being.

It's pretty much all semantics

Innate portion? Yes it is, we are all born as born as animals.


Prove it. You can't. It's a word issue.

If I use the word differently you quite simply can't be correct, and I can't be wrong because it isn't an issue of fact, it's an issue of labeling.

Chinese Regions wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Invent things. Search out truth often at the cost of evolutionary survival. Think.

Humans are the only ones who do that.

'ones' being animals.
We are animals, we are eukaryotic organisms, we share portions of our DNA with animals. We don't photosynthesise, we digest. Our cells lack cell walls, we are animals.


As I said, that's all temporary.
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Postby Soleichunn » Sat May 12, 2012 5:05 am

Lordieth wrote:Brainy chimps. That's all. We've yet to reach a stage where our behaviour can be considered distant enough from our animal brethren to classify us as anything else.

Brainy and uppity - humans are the snobs of the ape world.

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Postby Soleichunn » Sat May 12, 2012 5:27 am

Ubekebekbekestanstan wrote:I dunno, sometimes I feel more like a Protist or an Archaebacteria.

Sometimes I just want a change from the same old ribosome, and I switch to a bacterial system. Of course then a number of my transcriptase just quit on me until I 'return to the fold'.

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Postby Foamy XIII » Sat May 12, 2012 5:27 am

Scientifically, yes. Philosophically, no.
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