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Postby Waterlow » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:59 pm

Probably. It's not like we need all the would-be kids.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:01 pm

obviously I would support the use of this over the destruction of the fetus.
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Postby Czardas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:04 pm

Traditional abortion should be encouraged even though these machines exist, in order to try to get a handle on overpopulation.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:10 pm

Czardas wrote:Traditional abortion should be encouraged even though these machines exist, in order to try to get a handle on overpopulation.

I dont think overpopulation on that end is much of a problem in the Western world, mainly in East Asia...

Over here its more on the other end, with too many old people...

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Postby Waterlow » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:12 pm

Czardas wrote:Traditional abortion should be encouraged even though these machines exist, in order to try to get a handle on overpopulation.

Inded. We pay too little heed to your established traditions sometimes.

Maybe abortion would become a fashion statement: doin' it natural.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:13 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:Traditional abortion should be encouraged even though these machines exist, in order to try to get a handle on overpopulation.

I dont think overpopulation on that end is much of a problem in the Western world, mainly in East Asia...

Over here its more on the other end, with too many old people...

an extra ... 500,000 mouths to feed in this country each year would not be a big deal. but the 500,000 children (each year) raised in orphanages would be. at the end of 20 years we would might reasonably project 9million children being raised by no one.
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Postby Czardas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:15 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:Traditional abortion should be encouraged even though these machines exist, in order to try to get a handle on overpopulation.

I dont think overpopulation on that end is much of a problem in the Western world, mainly in East Asia...

Over here its more on the other end, with too many old people...

Well, that's true. But we can't exactly kill them off -- we'll just have to get rid of medicare and medicaid and those similar programs, they're also a drain on the budget so we win twofold!
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:16 pm

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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:27 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:Traditional abortion should be encouraged even though these machines exist, in order to try to get a handle on overpopulation.

I dont think overpopulation on that end is much of a problem in the Western world, mainly in East Asia...

Over here its more on the other end, with too many old people...

an extra ... 500,000 mouths to feed in this country each year would not be a big deal. but the 500,000 children (each year) raised in orphanages would be. at the end of 20 years we would might reasonably project 9million children being raised by no one.

It's a possibility, just saying that overpopulation as far as children are concerned arent currently a problem faced by this country...

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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:28 pm

Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:Traditional abortion should be encouraged even though these machines exist, in order to try to get a handle on overpopulation.

I dont think overpopulation on that end is much of a problem in the Western world, mainly in East Asia...

Over here its more on the other end, with too many old people...

Well, that's true. But we can't exactly kill them off -- we'll just have to get rid of medicare and medicaid and those similar programs, they're also a drain on the budget so we win twofold!

Death Panels, ftw!!

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Postby Czardas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:29 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:Traditional abortion should be encouraged even though these machines exist, in order to try to get a handle on overpopulation.

I dont think overpopulation on that end is much of a problem in the Western world, mainly in East Asia...

Over here its more on the other end, with too many old people...

Well, that's true. But we can't exactly kill them off -- we'll just have to get rid of medicare and medicaid and those similar programs, they're also a drain on the budget so we win twofold!

Death Panels, ftw!!

:lol2:

we don't need death panels. That's a waste of money! Death happens on its own anyway, we don't need people sitting around deciding who to kill first.

Likewise, get rid of the military. All of the people we could fight against will just die naturally eventually, so we shouldn't bother with them.
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Postby New Hayesalia » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:33 pm

Abortions if there is a severe genetic defect (disability)

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:35 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:Traditional abortion should be encouraged even though these machines exist, in order to try to get a handle on overpopulation.

I dont think overpopulation on that end is much of a problem in the Western world, mainly in East Asia...

Over here its more on the other end, with too many old people...

an extra ... 500,000 mouths to feed in this country each year would not be a big deal. but the 500,000 children (each year) raised in orphanages would be. at the end of 20 years we would might reasonably project 9million children being raised by no one.

It's a possibility, just saying that overpopulation as far as children are concerned arent currently a problem faced by this country...

i dont think that overpopulation from the generation of unwanted children would ever be the major problem with this plan.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:36 pm

Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:Traditional abortion should be encouraged even though these machines exist, in order to try to get a handle on overpopulation.

I dont think overpopulation on that end is much of a problem in the Western world, mainly in East Asia...

Over here its more on the other end, with too many old people...

Well, that's true. But we can't exactly kill them off -- we'll just have to get rid of medicare and medicaid and those similar programs, they're also a drain on the budget so we win twofold!

Death Panels, ftw!!

:lol2:

we don't need death panels. That's a waste of money! Death happens on its own anyway, we don't need people sitting around deciding who to kill first.

Likewise, get rid of the military. All of the people we could fight against will just die naturally eventually, so we shouldn't bother with them.


:rofl:

"Oh yeah! Lets just see who dies first!" *waits* :lol2:

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Postby Hydesland » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:39 pm

Kashindahar wrote:Assuming that you are pro-choice:

If a machine was developed and distributed that would allow pregnant mothers to transfer the pregnancy into the machine, and the machine basically functions as a surrogate womb, with no requirement that the mother have anything to do with the pregnancy from that point on, would you still allow termination of abortions, rather than just transfers?

If so, why?

EDIT: To simplify the issue

The transfer takes exactly as long as an abortion would, and costs the woman exactly as much. Should the woman desire nothing to do with the pregnancy, the costs thereafter are paid for by the government.


Interesting question actually, I guess if the baby was sure to have a terrible quality of life I would think abortion would still be acceptable in some circumstances.

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Postby Tangenaia » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:40 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:A woman isn't a person, silly! It doesn't have any feelings, and its only three purposes in life are to make babies, service its master, and take care of the house/raise the children.



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Postby Shinkadomayaka » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:48 pm

Tangenaia wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:A woman isn't a person, silly! It doesn't have any feelings, and its only three purposes in life are to make babies, service its master, and take care of the house/raise the children.



I officially loathe you.



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Postby Tubbsalot » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:50 pm

Before a certain point, abortion would be fine. No logical reason not to abort, prior to the development of a nervous system.
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:31 pm

Kashindahar wrote:Assuming that you are pro-choice:

If a machine was developed and distributed that would allow pregnant mothers to transfer the pregnancy into the machine, and the machine basically functions as a surrogate womb, with no requirement that the mother have anything to do with the pregnancy from that point on, would you still allow termination of abortions, rather than just transfers?

If so, why?

EDIT: To simplify the issue

The transfer takes exactly as long as an abortion would, and costs the woman exactly as much. Should the woman desire nothing to do with the pregnancy, the costs thereafter are paid for by the government.

And, of course, the money it will cost to maintain these sweet motherless lambs to age eighteen comes from where...?

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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:32 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Kashindahar wrote:Assuming that you are pro-choice:

If a machine was developed and distributed that would allow pregnant mothers to transfer the pregnancy into the machine, and the machine basically functions as a surrogate womb, with no requirement that the mother have anything to do with the pregnancy from that point on, would you still allow termination of abortions, rather than just transfers?

If so, why?

EDIT: To simplify the issue

The transfer takes exactly as long as an abortion would, and costs the woman exactly as much. Should the woman desire nothing to do with the pregnancy, the costs thereafter are paid for by the government.

And, of course, the money it will cost to maintain these sweet motherless lambs to age eighteen comes from where...?

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Postby Kashindahar » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:41 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Kashindahar wrote:Assuming that you are pro-choice:

If a machine was developed and distributed that would allow pregnant mothers to transfer the pregnancy into the machine, and the machine basically functions as a surrogate womb, with no requirement that the mother have anything to do with the pregnancy from that point on, would you still allow termination of abortions, rather than just transfers?

If so, why?

EDIT: To simplify the issue

The transfer takes exactly as long as an abortion would, and costs the woman exactly as much. Should the woman desire nothing to do with the pregnancy, the costs thereafter are paid for by the government.

And, of course, the money it will cost to maintain these sweet motherless lambs to age eighteen comes from where...?


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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:42 pm

Kashindahar wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Kashindahar wrote:Assuming that you are pro-choice:

If a machine was developed and distributed that would allow pregnant mothers to transfer the pregnancy into the machine, and the machine basically functions as a surrogate womb, with no requirement that the mother have anything to do with the pregnancy from that point on, would you still allow termination of abortions, rather than just transfers?

If so, why?

EDIT: To simplify the issue

The transfer takes exactly as long as an abortion would, and costs the woman exactly as much. Should the woman desire nothing to do with the pregnancy, the costs thereafter are paid for by the government.

And, of course, the money it will cost to maintain these sweet motherless lambs to age eighteen comes from where...?


It's magic, we don't have to explain it.

Let the record show that I nailed it first, :lol2:

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Postby JuNii » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:46 pm

Kashindahar wrote:Assuming that you are pro-choice:

If a machine was developed and distributed that would allow pregnant mothers to transfer the pregnancy into the machine, and the machine basically functions as a surrogate womb, with no requirement that the mother have anything to do with the pregnancy from that point on, would you still allow termination of abortions, rather than just transfers?

If so, why?

EDIT: To simplify the issue

The transfer takes exactly as long as an abortion would, and costs the woman exactly as much. Should the woman desire nothing to do with the pregnancy, the costs thereafter are paid for by the government.
that doesn't sound like a baby making machine... more like an incubator.
Katganistan wrote:And, of course, the money it will cost to maintain these sweet motherless lambs to age eighteen comes from where...?

civil service. when they turn Eighteen with no one 'adopting them' they are put into the military where they will fight our wars for us. :p *joking*
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:47 pm

JuNii wrote: that doesn't sound like a baby making machine... more like an incubator.

Like women, :p

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Postby JuNii » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:53 pm

Maurepas wrote:
JuNii wrote: that doesn't sound like a baby making machine... more like an incubator.

Like women, :p

... you mean those Incubators will be prone to Mood Swings caused by a hormone imbalance?

*Imagines crazed, moody machines running rampant on the city* :blink:

I preferre women then... they're much more cuddly, fun to be with, and they are absolutely RADIANT at all times.
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