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Postby Kashindahar » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:26 pm

Assuming that you are pro-choice:

If a machine was developed and distributed that would allow pregnant mothers to transfer the pregnancy into the machine, and the machine basically functions as a surrogate womb, with no requirement that the mother have anything to do with the pregnancy from that point on, would you still allow termination of abortions, rather than just transfers?

If so, why?

EDIT: To simplify the issue

The transfer takes exactly as long as an abortion would, and costs the woman exactly as much. Should the woman desire nothing to do with the pregnancy, the costs thereafter are paid for by the government.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:28 pm

That depends, would a conceived child automatically go into this machine, no matter what? Or would the mother have a choice?
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:28 pm

There's still going to be abortions because those machines are going to be used up real quick by lower-class females who aren't in a financial or even mental position suitable for taking care of the infants.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:28 pm

A woman isn't a person, silly! It doesn't have any feelings, and its only three purposes in life are to make babies, service its master, and take care of the house/raise the children.
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Postby Kashindahar » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:29 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:That depends, would a conceived child automatically go into this machine, no matter what? Or would the mother have a choice?


By choice.

Gauthier wrote:There's still going to be abortions because those machines are going to be used up real quick by lower-class females who aren't in a financial or even mental position suitable for taking care of the infants.


Assume there's no limit to the number of machines.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:29 pm

Gauthier wrote:There's still going to be abortions because those machines are going to be used up real quick by lower-class females who aren't in a financial or even mental position suitable for taking care of the infants.

^^^This, also, who's going to care for these things once theyve been brought to term? :eyebrow:

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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:30 pm

Kashindahar wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:That depends, would a conceived child automatically go into this machine, no matter what? Or would the mother have a choice?


By choice.


Well, if we assume there is a choice, then we cannot very well ban abortions then, can we? :eyebrow:

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Postby Tunizcha » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:31 pm

Yes, since technically you still have to raise the child, and that's something many people simply can not bear either financially or mentally.
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Postby Kashindahar » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:31 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Kashindahar wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:That depends, would a conceived child automatically go into this machine, no matter what? Or would the mother have a choice?


By choice.


Well, if we assume there is a choice, then we cannot very well ban abortions then, can we? :eyebrow:


The choice was on whether or not the child automatically goes into the machine, not on termination.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:32 pm

Kashindahar wrote:By choice.

I was going to say no, but I changed my mind. Anything can happen during pregnancy rendering a mother/father or both incapable or unwilling of raising a child
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:32 pm

Kashindahar wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Kashindahar wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:That depends, would a conceived child automatically go into this machine, no matter what? Or would the mother have a choice?


By choice.


Well, if we assume there is a choice, then we cannot very well ban abortions then, can we? :eyebrow:


The choice was on whether or not the child automatically goes into the machine, not on termination.

So, there is no choice then, you have to raise the baby then? :eyebrow:

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Postby Rhodmhire » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:33 pm

Nice to see your view of women is equal to mine.

Quite a rare occurance, you are.
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Postby Czardas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:35 pm

We already have these things. They're called "women".
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Postby Rhodmhire » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:35 pm

Czardas wrote:We already have these things. They're called "women".


Finally, I beat someone to it.

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Postby Batzoria » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:35 pm

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Postby Tunizcha » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:36 pm

Batzoria wrote:Image

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I giggled.
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Postby Czardas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:37 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:
Czardas wrote:We already have these things. They're called "women".


Finally, I beat someone to it.

I'm winning all over the place today.

Winning what?
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:38 pm

Czardas wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Czardas wrote:We already have these things. They're called "women".


Finally, I beat someone to it.

I'm winning all over the place today.

Winning what?

Internet

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Postby Rhodmhire » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:39 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Czardas wrote:We already have these things. They're called "women".


Finally, I beat someone to it.

I'm winning all over the place today.

Winning what?

Internet


Loads of it.
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Postby Czardas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:39 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Czardas wrote:We already have these things. They're called "women".


Finally, I beat someone to it.

I'm winning all over the place today.

Winning what?

Internet

Rhodmhire didn't win an internet. None of the licensed internet distributors posted here informing him that he had.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:41 pm

Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Czardas wrote:We already have these things. They're called "women".


Finally, I beat someone to it.

I'm winning all over the place today.

Winning what?

Internet

Rhodmhire didn't win an internet. None of the licensed internet distributors posted here informing him that he had.

Well...Idk about licensed..........

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Postby Rhodmhire » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:41 pm

Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Czardas wrote:We already have these things. They're called "women".


Finally, I beat someone to it.

I'm winning all over the place today.

Winning what?

Internet

Rhodmhire


Way to spell my name right.

...didn't win an internet. None of the licensed internet distributors posted here informing him that he had.


You don't even know how powerful said distributors are.

They let me know before I win.

Your argument is irreleavant.

Back to the topic of discussion.
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Postby Czardas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:45 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Czardas wrote:We already have these things. They're called "women".


Finally, I beat someone to it.

I'm winning all over the place today.

Winning what?

Internet

Rhodmhire didn't win an internet. None of the licensed internet distributors posted here informing him that he had.

Well...Idk about licensed..........

They gotta be licensed. I mean, what, you think just anyone can go around handing out internets to people? Sheesh. :roll:

Rhodmhire wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Czardas wrote:We already have these things. They're called "women".


Finally, I beat someone to it.

I'm winning all over the place today.

Winning what?

Internet

Rhodmhire


Way to spell my name right.

'course I did.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:48 pm

Kashindahar wrote:Assuming that you are pro-choice:

If a machine was developed and distributed that would allow pregnant mothers to transfer the pregnancy into the machine, and the machine basically functions as a surrogate womb, with no requirement that the mother have anything to do with the pregnancy from that point on, would you still allow termination of abortions, rather than just transfers?

If so, why?

EDIT: To simplify the issue

The transfer takes exactly as long as an abortion would, and costs the woman exactly as much. Should the woman desire nothing to do with the pregnancy, the costs thereafter are paid for by the government.


i would make it available as the choice of either biological parent. if neither wanted the potential child, it should be terminated.

we dont need millions of extra unwanted children.
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Postby KaIashnikov » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:53 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:A woman isn't a person, silly! It doesn't have any feelings, and its only three purposes in life are to make babies, service its master, and take care of the house/raise the children.


+2

A women is hit by a motorcycle. Whose fault is it?

The motorcyclist, he shouldn't be riding through the kitchen.
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