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Pilot for Dutch low cost carrier arrested: see why!

Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:15 am

http://www.gadling.com/2009/09/23/pilot ... in-argent/

We've heard of pilots being removed from their plane because they were drunk, but today's news is slightly more disturbing.

Pilot Juan Alberto Poch was about to fly back to Amsterdam when Spanish police removed him from his Transavia plane because of his involvement in the Argentine "dirty war" between 1976 and 1983.

An Argentine court had issued an arrest warrant for Mr. Poch, and he'll be deported so he can answer the allegations brought against him.

These allegations are quite horrible. As part of the dirty war, Mr. Poch flew "death flights". These flights were performed under the disguise of "prisoner transports", but in reality, the passengers were drugged, and dropped out of the plane plummeting to their death in the ocean. In total, up to 30,000 people disappeared, and many of them may have been killed when pushed out of one of these flights.

The airline had been informed of the arrest, and had prepared a backup pilot to minimize the inconvenience to its passengers. The pilot had been working for Transavia since 1988 and never raised any suspicions.


For those who have never heard of this, the Dirty War happened between 1976-1983 and was all about violence agence Argentine citizenry. The head honcho was Jorge Rafael Videla, mainly his military government. This all harkens back to the military coup against Juan Perón, although several reasons for it have been cited, including Isabel Martínez de Perón's ''annihilation decrees'' of 1975.

What this pilot did was more than horrible. I do not have words. Also, if anyone has more details about the Dirty War, more than the ones offered by Wikipedia, I would like to hear from you. Anyone cares to comment?
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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:17 am

Wow. That's all I can say.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:18 am

Galloism wrote:Wow. That's all I can say.


I know. I was speechless whren I read the article.
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Postby Pedoka » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:20 am

Nothing wrong with that, it was a war.

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Postby Katganistan » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:20 am

The allegations are horrible, and if it can be proven he was involved, he should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, at the moment, they are just allegations, no?

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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:20 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Galloism wrote:Wow. That's all I can say.


I know. I was speechless whren I read the article.


I mean, he could have at least not drugged them, so they could enjoy their first - and last - skydive.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:21 am

Katganistan wrote:The allegations are horrible, and if it can be proven he was involved, he should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, at the moment, they are just allegations, no?


Apparently so. Just allegations. At least the airline he was working for since 1988 had no reasons to doubt this pilot. But if the allegations are proven to be true... I don't understand the human being who could do such a thing...
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:22 am

Katganistan wrote:The allegations are horrible, and if it can be proven he was involved, he should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, at the moment, they are just allegations, no?

A thorough investigation is what I would recommend in order to fairly prove the suspect guilty. The Dirty War as describe was indeed horrific deep down.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:24 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Katganistan wrote:The allegations are horrible, and if it can be proven he was involved, he should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, at the moment, they are just allegations, no?

A thorough investigation is what I would recommend in order to fairly prove the suspect guilty. The Dirty War as describe was indeed horrific deep down.


What I find more disturbing about this than anything is that no explanation has been, that I know, given as to why the Dirty War happened.
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Postby Tagmatium » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:24 am

That's a pretty hideous thing to do to people.
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Postby UNIverseVERSE » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:26 am

Pedoka wrote:Nothing wrong with that, it was a war.


There is nothing wrong with killing large numbers of people (many probably just civilians) by throwing them out of airplanes? Seriously?

Do you have no moral compass whatsoever?
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:27 am

UNIverseVERSE wrote:
Pedoka wrote:Nothing wrong with that, it was a war.


There is nothing wrong with killing large numbers of people (many probably just civilians) by throwing them out of airplanes? Seriously?

Do you have no moral compass whatsoever?

The compass swings to the north when its your OWN ass getting tossed out of an airplane.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:28 am

Katganistan wrote:
UNIverseVERSE wrote:
Pedoka wrote:Nothing wrong with that, it was a war.


There is nothing wrong with killing large numbers of people (many probably just civilians) by throwing them out of airplanes? Seriously?

Do you have no moral compass whatsoever?

The compass swings to the north when its your OWN ass getting tossed out of an airplane.


And you can't fight because your ass has been drugged.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:42 am

thats interesting... its bizare it took them so long to find him, or have the Argentinians only started looking for these people rcently?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:43 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:thats interesting... its bizare it took them so long to find him, or have the Argentinians only started looking for these people rcently?


I wish I could answer that one. I don't have too many details on the Dirty War.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:44 am

Vile & disgusting.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:48 am

Apparently there was a reopening of the case in 2005 after the government found that the Catholic Church was involved in some of the disappereances.
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Postby Republica Espanola » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:48 am

Pedoka wrote:Nothing wrong with that, it was a war.

...wow. Just wow.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:49 am

United Russian State wrote:One more reason why I hate flying.


You got drugged and thrown out of an airplane to your death?
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Postby Herrebrugh » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:50 am

Thats one of the most horrible things I have ever heard.... Thats just pure evil man! I mean.. you drug people and throw them out of fuckin' airplanes! Its sickening
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:50 am

Galloism wrote:
United Russian State wrote:One more reason why I hate flying.


You got drugged and thrown out of an airplane to your death?


But it's a thought.

Shit, 3 months. I am royaly fucked! :?
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Postby United Russian State » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:50 am

Galloism wrote:
United Russian State wrote:One more reason why I hate flying.


You got drugged and thrown out of an airplane to your death?


No, but one more than you have to worry about these days. :lol:
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:53 am

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Postby The Lion Rampant » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:55 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Apparently there was a reopening of the case in 2005 after the government found that the Catholic Church was involved in some of the disappereances.


Don't blame the Catholic Church.

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