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Postby The_pantless_hero » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:41 am

Put a national tax on ammunition (like there is on gasoline).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_ ... o_shortage

There you go. Gun nuts will be powering the economy one delusion fueled purchase at a time.
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Postby Cosmopoles » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:43 am

Wouldn't a tax encourage the black market in ammo?

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Postby The_pantless_hero » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:45 am

Cosmopoles wrote:Wouldn't a tax encourage the black market in ammo?

You can always instead tax the individual parts therefore creating an invisible cost increase that will be passed on to buyers and will also tax gun nuts who make their own.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:46 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:
Cosmopoles wrote:Wouldn't a tax encourage the black market in ammo?

You can always instead tax the individual parts therefore creating an invisible cost increase that will be passed on to buyers and will also tax gun nuts who make their own.


what about those that cast their own bullets for use in muzzleloaders? A tax on raw lead?
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Postby Kamsaki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:47 am

Cosmopoles wrote:Wouldn't a tax encourage the black market in ammo?

This might be a preconception, but I would imagine that there's already a pretty thriving black market in ammunition as it stands. The question is whether the current gun nuts would rather see their money going to Government or to OMG EBIL TERRORISTS.

While I would initially suspect they would prefer the former, I suppose I've been proven wrong before.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:48 am

... or perhaps we could stop referring to everybody who legally owns a firearm as a "gun nut".
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:48 am

Big Jim P wrote:
The_pantless_hero wrote:
Cosmopoles wrote:Wouldn't a tax encourage the black market in ammo?

You can always instead tax the individual parts therefore creating an invisible cost increase that will be passed on to buyers and will also tax gun nuts who make their own.


what about those that cast their own bullets for use in muzzleloaders? A tax on raw lead?

If you are making your own balls for muzzle loaders, you are a different kind of crazy and probably not the kind to worry about terribly.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:48 am

Grays Harbor wrote:... or perhaps we could stop referring to everybody who legally owns a firearm as a "gun nut".


Maybe we should tax the use of the words "gun nuts"
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Postby Kamsaki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:49 am

Grays Harbor wrote:... or perhaps we could stop referring to everybody who legally owns a firearm as a "gun nut".

Presumably, only people for whom Gun Nut is a legitimate adjectival expression would be considerably offset by a slight increase in taxation on ammunition.

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Postby The_pantless_hero » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:49 am

Grays Harbor wrote:... or perhaps we could stop referring to everybody who legally owns a firearm as a "gun nut".

I will most certainly refer to anyone hoarding cases of ammo as gun nuts.
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Postby Mikertaz Kein » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:50 am

Grays Harbor wrote:... or perhaps we could stop referring to everybody who legally owns a firearm as a "gun nut".


While I agree, you will probably never win that argument...

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Postby Pedoka » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:50 am

This entire thread is one big flamebait...

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Postby New Olwe » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:51 am

Big Jim P wrote:Maybe we should tax the use of the words "gun nuts"


Oh, nuts. Where'd I put my gun?
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:51 am

Kamsaki wrote:
Cosmopoles wrote:Wouldn't a tax encourage the black market in ammo?

This might be a preconception, but I would imagine that there's already a pretty thriving black market in ammunition as it stands. The question is whether the current gun nuts would rather see their money going to Government or to OMG EBIL TERRORISTS.

While I would initially suspect they would prefer the former, I suppose I've been proven wrong before.

Most of the loons would probably buy ammunition from bin Laden himself if it meant they thought they were screwing over the omg-guns-are-evil Democrats.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:52 am

Pedoka wrote:This entire thread is one big flamebait...


I wouldn't cry flamebait just yet. I am all for not calling people who own guns ''gun nuts'' but I kinda see the idea TPH is presenting as something interesting.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:52 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:... or perhaps we could stop referring to everybody who legally owns a firearm as a "gun nut".


Maybe we should tax the use of the words "gun nuts"


:rofl:

sometimes a sense of humor is the best answer available. thanks for that. ;)
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:52 am

Pedoka wrote:This entire thread is one big flamebait...

Delusional gun owners are buying so much ammo since Obama became president that companies can't even produce enough (the aforementioned gun nuts). The government is seriously hurting for money. I put two and two together and solved our budget crisis.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:58 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:Put a national tax on ammunition (like there is on gasoline).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_ ... o_shortage

There you go. Gun nuts will be powering the economy one delusion fueled purchase at a time.


Not everyone that buys ammunition is delusional.
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Postby Crabulon » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:59 am

Delusional gun owners are buying so much ammo since Obama became president that companies can't even produce enough (the aforementioned gun nuts). The government is seriously hurting for money. I put two and two together and solved our budget crisis.


You gotta give him that one at least, that would provide quite a large increase in tax revenue. If you think about the whole "black market" side of this issue, how many respectable gun owning citizens are going to go to that desperate length? It's more likely they only keep a box or two in the house for trips down the gun club or "protection".

P.S Not American so obviously have no idea about gun owners.

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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:01 am

New Olwe wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:Maybe we should tax the use of the words "gun nuts"


Oh, nuts. Where'd I put my gun?


Ok, the specific phrase "gun nuts" :roll:

Jeez. :p
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:01 am

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
The_pantless_hero wrote:Put a national tax on ammunition (like there is on gasoline).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_ ... o_shortage

There you go. Gun nuts will be powering the economy one delusion fueled purchase at a time.


Not everyone that buys ammunition is delusional.

Ones hoarding ammunition under the presumption that Obama will put even the most simple of restrictions on the second amendment are. Mind you, this is the president and Congress that let people bring loaded weapons into national parks.
Bottle wrote:Equality is a slippery slope, people, and if you give it to the gays you have to give it to the polygamists and if you give it to the polygamists you have to give it to the serial dog molesters and if you give it to the serial dog molesters you have to give it to the machine fetishists and the next thing you know you're being tied up by a trio of polygamist lesbian powerbooks and you can't get out because the safety word is case sensistive!

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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:04 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:
Pedoka wrote:This entire thread is one big flamebait...

Delusional gun owners are buying so much ammo since Obama became president that companies can't even produce enough (the aforementioned gun nuts). The government is seriously hurting for money. I put two and two together and solved our budget crisis.


I've been buying ammo since Obama became president, but I also bought ammo before Obama even announced his presidential campaign. I'm neither a nut, or delusional.
Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

Any accident you can walk away from is one I can laugh at.

DOJ's interpretation of the 2nd Amendment: http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/fi ... -p0126.pdf

Natapoc wrote:...You should post more in here so I don't seem like the extremist...


Auraelius wrote:If you take the the TITANIC, and remove the letters T, T, and one of the I's, and add the letters C,O,S,P,R, and Y you get CONSPIRACY. oOooOooooOOOooooOOOOOOoooooooo


Maineiacs wrote:Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and get drunk all day.


Luw wrote:Politics is like having two handfuls of shit - one that smells bad and one that looks bad - and having to decide which one to put in your mouth.

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Postby New Olwe » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:05 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:Mind you, this is the president and Congress that let people bring loaded weapons into national parks.


Actually, this is the President and Congress who let people bring loaded weapons to town hall meetings. Where the President is speaking. :palm:

As for paying for the health care bill... I'd much prefer to see prostitution legalized. *shrugs*
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:06 am

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
The_pantless_hero wrote:
Pedoka wrote:This entire thread is one big flamebait...

Delusional gun owners are buying so much ammo since Obama became president that companies can't even produce enough (the aforementioned gun nuts). The government is seriously hurting for money. I put two and two together and solved our budget crisis.


I've been buying ammo since Obama became president, but I also bought ammo before Obama even announced his presidential campaign. I'm neither a nut, or delusional.

Yes because obviously everyone has kept their purchase amounts steady before and since. That's why the average yearly ammunition sales have already jumped from 7 to 9 billion since his presidency.
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Postby United Russian State » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:08 am

Cosmopoles wrote:Wouldn't a tax encourage the black market in ammo?


It would. Instead of buying ammo from a store they will buy it illgealy for a cheaper price. This person didn't think this out...

This is why all nations should only allow police and military to have guns.
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