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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 14, 2012 10:33 pm

Foguk wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:If I were president I would approve it, Alaskan oil is important to lowering prices.

Cool. If I was prime minister I would disprove it. You can have your alaskan oil, just not ours.

Mutual funding to research alternative energies?

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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Mon May 14, 2012 10:56 pm

The Fallow Lands wrote:The free market will fix everything. Just as in any natural and organic system, the economy will find its way to equilibrium and efficiency if we just abolish all taxes, regulaations and subsidies. I would deregulate gradually over a few years, starting with a repeal of legal tender laws and capital gains tax so as to allow for barter, free trade and monetary competition, as well as allowing anyone to trade and run a business, taking away the need for registration and licensing, and putting and end to every prohibition. As people set up businesses in agriculture and manufacturing to compete with contemporary oligopolies, I would abolish regulatory departments such as the FDA, DEA, EPA, etc., and leave any property damage and negative externalities to tort law. I would abolish the Department of. Education and allow academic innovation to be driven by competition. Eventually, everything will be privatized, profit incentives would encourage capitalists to maintain resources, thus effectively eliminating the Tragedy of the Commons, and the government would be liquidated and unable to interfere with the people's liberty to trade and produce.


You've a rather optimistic outlook on your ideal's results considering you've no lasting society to hold up as your model, but rather have at your disposal only a plethora of historical footnotes that were similar (but not complete) executions of your ideal that ultimately died out in competition with societies bearing at least some level of centralization. But hey, yellow and black look very nice together. *shrugs*
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Mon May 14, 2012 11:00 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:2:Ok so its not the best target, I will admit that, but with a well funded military with modern tech and decent troop numbers could occupy any country, that and I wouldnt withdrawl just because a bunch of hippies want me to, that an Vietnam couldve been won had America stayed there long enough to win
3:What about the other cuts?

2. Except it wouldn't be sustainable. It is like building a mansion to have a bathroom, sure you might be able to get the bathroom, but it sure as hell isn't efficient. The whole system is like a shitty version of colonialism, if you want a colony you slowly build influence, you don't conquer such a culturally different nation overnight.
3. Subsidies would add very little compared to the added cost of having healthcare for everyone. Normal people outnumber the old and poor, so you would be spending more than if you just doubled spending for medicare and medicaid.
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Postby Laobaen » Mon May 14, 2012 11:15 pm

>Tax that bottom 49% that are currently exempt
>Sterilize the mentally disabled.
>Classify stupidity as a mental disability
>Fund gladiatorial combat
>Dismantle every single union
>All crimes, if you are convicted, shall be punished by immediate execution.
>President becomes Emperor
>Forbid homosexual's rights
>Forbid immigration
>Forbid emmigration
>Outlaw feminism
>Eliminate Women's rights
>Every man, woman, and child is automatically conscripted into the military
>Conquer and enslave everyone from mexico on south
>Take every possible action to dick around with China's economy
>Establish puppet regimes around Russia and arm them with hundreds of ICBMs and nuclear warheads.
>Encourage NATO to fall apart
>Blitz Canada
>Japan/South Korea/N.Ireland to cease independence [and/or UK membership] and become territory of the Golden American Emperor.
>Conquer British Isles
>Starting with Europe, then Africa, then the middle east, and finally asia, conquer Earth.

Easy victories everywhere. When the US isn't holding a gun to their heads nations tend to quickly grow irritated with everyone else.
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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Mon May 14, 2012 11:18 pm

Laobaen wrote:
>Tax that bottom 49% that are currently exempt
>Sterilize the mentally disabled.
>Classify stupidity as a mental disability
>Fund gladiatorial combat
>Dismantle every single union
>All crimes, if you are convicted, shall be punished by immediate execution.
>President becomes Emperor
>Forbid homosexual's rights
>Forbid immigration
>Forbid emmigration
>Outlaw feminism
>Eliminate Women's rights
>Every man, woman, and child is automatically conscripted into the military
>Conquer and enslave everyone from mexico on south
>Take every possible action to dick around with China's economy
>Establish puppet regimes around Russia and arm them with hundreds of ICBMs and nuclear warheads.
>Encourage NATO to fall apart
>Blitz Canada
>Japan/South Korea/N.Ireland to cease independence [and/or UK membership] and become territory of the Golden American Emperor.
>Conquer British Isles
>Starting with Europe, then Africa, then the middle east, and finally asia, conquer Earth.


Easy victories everywhere. When the US isn't holding a gun to their heads nations tend to quickly grow irritated with everyone else.


:lol2:

...so what's your real plan?
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Postby Seleucas » Tue May 15, 2012 5:08 am

I think the top of the list would be to dismantle the Federal government. No good can come out of its continued existence, and some bad part of it is removed, it will simply grow back like a hydra's head. After that was done, I am not sure that there really would be an America any more.
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Postby Divair » Tue May 15, 2012 6:04 am

Divair wrote:Well, my basic plan would be..

Foreign policy:
End all foreign aid.
End the embargo on Cuba.
End the Afghanistan war.
Reduce the Iraq "embassy" size.
Close all overseas bases.
Pressure Israel to recognize Palestine.
Sign free trade agreements with as many countries as possible.

Economic policy:
Raise taxes on the wealthy. A lot.
Cut military spending by 50%.
Close all tax loopholes.
Raise corporate taxes slightly.
Stop making pennies. Seriously.
Repeal Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, and all these other clusterfucks. Replace with universal healthcare.
Make welfare more focused on getting people rehired.
Increase NASA's budget as much as possible.
End oil subsidies.

Social policy:
Replace marriages with civil unions. Legalize civil unions for anyone as long as it is consensual. Same sex, polygamy, whatever. Marriages can become a personal or religious thing.
Legalize euthanasia.
Legalize marijuana.
Legalize prostitution.
Make the government completely secular.
End the electoral college.
Ban lobbying.
End the two party system.
Increase presidential term to five years.
Enact net neutrality.




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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Tue May 15, 2012 6:15 am

Divair wrote:Cut military spending by 50%.

Arbitrarily cutting spending is retarded, if you want to spend less you don't just say "I will spend 50% less on food." you look at what you are spending your money on and individually decide what to stop spending it on. Also, what will you do with the 7 or so super carriers and half of the submarine fleet that we can no longer sustain?
Close all tax loopholes.

And how would you do that? The whole idea of a loophole is that it is hard to find.
Repeal Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, and all these other clusterfucks. Replace with universal healthcare.

So you are going to reverse the added taxes and spending cuts by spending more?
Make welfare more focused on getting people rehired.

How? Why so vague? Be specific, what will you do to help them get hired? Will you spend money teaching them skills, will you force companies to hire more people than they need?
Increase NASA's budget as much as possible.

Why? NASA is the biggest waste of money ever, at least the military provides defence and I have compared military spending to burning money outright.

Replace marriages with civil unions. Legalize civil unions for anyone as long as it is consensual. Same sex, polygamy, whatever. Marriages can become a personal or religious thing.

Why not just decide to not recognize marriages at all? The whole idea of marriage is a social idea, it isn't like the idea directly impacts the state.

End the two party system.

How? Are you going to forcibly break up the two major political parties? Multi-party systems form naturally due to people not wanting to compromise.
Increase presidential term to five years.

Why?
Enact net neutrality.

No.



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Postby Death Metal » Tue May 15, 2012 6:37 am

Closing all foreign bases would piss off a LOT of our trade allies.
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Postby Phonencia » Tue May 15, 2012 7:00 am

I'm glad you asked. First off, let's assume I'm the King of America thanks to a little coup de tat by me and my older brother. What I would do.


Legalize marijauna, regulate and tax it.
Legalize Gay Marriage in Washington DC and allow individual states to make their own decisions about it.
Heavily regulate Unions.
De-regulate businesses.
Decimate (but not disband) the EPA
Remove MOST environmental restrictions on business.
Slash taxes on businesses
Cut almost all funding to special interest groups, slash the salary of all US Congressmen
Amend the constitution to guarantee that the basic pay of an active duty Private E-1 in the US Military can not be exceeded by the salary of a US Congressman.
Disband use of the dollar and replace it with silver and gold certificates or coins.
Drill for oil as much as possible on all american soil.
Make Puerto Rico the 51'st state.
Impose stricter tariffs and regulation on international trade and encourage businesses to operate in the US
Repeal the majority of gun laws
Annex Mexico, drill for oil, etcetera
Leave the US Army in Mexico and order that any and all members of any drug cartel be decapitated or burned at the stake in public
Execute anyone convicted of 1'st degree murder, rape, or anyone with more than 100 misdemeanors
Create a national registry of gangs in the US and make membership in said gangs a capital offence

there's more but I can't remember it just yet...
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Postby Death Metal » Tue May 15, 2012 7:07 am

Phonencia wrote:I'm glad you asked. First off, let's assume I'm the King of America thanks to a little coup de tat by me and my older brother. What I would do.


Legalize marijauna, regulate and tax it.
Legalize Gay Marriage in Washington DC and allow individual states to make their own decisions about it.
Heavily regulate Unions.
De-regulate businesses.
Decimate (but not disband) the EPA
Remove MOST environmental restrictions on business.
Slash taxes on businesses
Cut almost all funding to special interest groups, slash the salary of all US Congressmen
Amend the constitution to guarantee that the basic pay of an active duty Private E-1 in the US Military can not be exceeded by the salary of a US Congressman.
Disband use of the dollar and replace it with silver and gold certificates or coins.
Drill for oil as much as possible on all american soil.
Make Puerto Rico the 51'st state.
Impose stricter tariffs and regulation on international trade and encourage businesses to operate in the US
Repeal the majority of gun laws
Annex Mexico, drill for oil, etcetera
Leave the US Army in Mexico and order that any and all members of any drug cartel be decapitated or burned at the stake in public
Execute anyone convicted of 1'st degree murder, rape, or anyone with more than 100 misdemeanors
Create a national registry of gangs in the US and make membership in said gangs a capital offence

there's more but I can't remember it just yet...


So you want to de-regulate business... and regulate business?

Also, gold coin system over paper dollar, yeah, that'll be economically viable... :roll:
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Postby Basra » Tue May 15, 2012 7:14 am

Socialdemokraterne wrote:
Laobaen wrote:
>Tax that bottom 49% that are currently exempt
>Sterilize the mentally disabled.
>Classify stupidity as a mental disability
>Fund gladiatorial combat
>Dismantle every single union
>All crimes, if you are convicted, shall be punished by immediate execution.
>President becomes Emperor
>Forbid homosexual's rights
>Forbid immigration
>Forbid emmigration
>Outlaw feminism
>Eliminate Women's rights
>Every man, woman, and child is automatically conscripted into the military
>Conquer and enslave everyone from mexico on south
>Take every possible action to dick around with China's economy
>Establish puppet regimes around Russia and arm them with hundreds of ICBMs and nuclear warheads.
>Encourage NATO to fall apart
>Blitz Canada
>Japan/South Korea/N.Ireland to cease independence [and/or UK membership] and become territory of the Golden American Emperor.
>Conquer British Isles
>Starting with Europe, then Africa, then the middle east, and finally asia, conquer Earth.


Easy victories everywhere. When the US isn't holding a gun to their heads nations tend to quickly grow irritated with everyone else.


:lol2:

...so what's your real plan?

That last one sounded pretty good to me.
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Postby Phonencia » Tue May 15, 2012 7:48 am

Death Metal wrote:
Phonencia wrote:I'm glad you asked. First off, let's assume I'm the King of America thanks to a little coup de tat by me and my older brother. What I would do.


Legalize marijauna, regulate and tax it.
Legalize Gay Marriage in Washington DC and allow individual states to make their own decisions about it.
Heavily regulate Unions.
De-regulate businesses.
Decimate (but not disband) the EPA
Remove MOST environmental restrictions on business.
Slash taxes on businesses
Cut almost all funding to special interest groups, slash the salary of all US Congressmen
Amend the constitution to guarantee that the basic pay of an active duty Private E-1 in the US Military can not be exceeded by the salary of a US Congressman.
Disband use of the dollar and replace it with silver and gold certificates or coins.
Drill for oil as much as possible on all american soil.
Make Puerto Rico the 51'st state.
Impose stricter tariffs and regulation on international trade and encourage businesses to operate in the US
Repeal the majority of gun laws
Annex Mexico, drill for oil, etcetera
Leave the US Army in Mexico and order that any and all members of any drug cartel be decapitated or burned at the stake in public
Execute anyone convicted of 1'st degree murder, rape, or anyone with more than 100 misdemeanors
Create a national registry of gangs in the US and make membership in said gangs a capital offence

there's more but I can't remember it just yet...


So you want to de-regulate business... and regulate business?

Also, gold coin system over paper dollar, yeah, that'll be economically viable... :roll:


INTERNATIONAL trade/business. We need to make it harder for foreign companies to steal sales from domestic companies. Of course...it wouldn't help if domestic companies could MAKE A DECENT CAR.
And not just gold coins. Gold or Silver backed paper dollars that can be exchanged for a coin of Gold or Silver. Oh, and I forgot the part where we annex Africa and start heavily mining their precious metals!
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Postby Death Metal » Tue May 15, 2012 7:53 am

Legalize marijauna, regulate and tax it.


And still, gold economy is bad economy. We didn't get off the gold standard just for shits and gigs, you know.
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Postby Phonencia » Tue May 15, 2012 9:05 am

Death Metal wrote:
Legalize marijauna, regulate and tax it.


And still, gold economy is bad economy. We didn't get off the gold standard just for shits and gigs, you know.


:palm:

Gold AND Silver and other precious metals and certificates for ownership of them. Paper money can be devalued with ease. Paper money HAS NO VALUE. It's just paper. Gold and Silver, precious metals, gems or jewels, they've all had value since the dawn of man. You can't print more Gold, Silver or any other metal.
We're not just going to use gold and silver. There'd also be certificates of ownership for various types of precious metals and gems and such. If nothing else, people would be encouraged to barter as well,
ie I'll trade you a sack of corn for that power drill.
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Postby Hittanryan » Tue May 15, 2012 9:16 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Foguk wrote: >:( :evil:

I hate that Keystone pipeline...

If I were president I would approve it, Alaskan oil is important to lowering prices.

Bullshit. Gas prices are being driven up by demand and speculation, not a low supply. Domestic drilling is already the highest it's ever been; the US is a net exporter of oil for the first time in history and we still hit record high gas prices every summer. There's nothing that says oil extracted and/or refined in the US must be sold to the US, and China and India have a huge appetite for oil that's only getting worse every year.

Oh, and the Keystone pipeline is coming from Canada, not Alaska.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Tue May 15, 2012 10:05 am

Phonencia wrote:Paper money can be devalued with ease.

So can gold "Hi gaiz, look at all this Gold I found, it must be $50 billion in value" the price of gold proceeds to drop.
Paper money HAS NO VALUE. It's just paper.

Precious metals have no direct value either, they only have value for the same reason paper money does, people want it. If people stop giving a damn about precious metals then they will be worthless too. Paper money has value because the government says so, if you walk into a bank with a sack of gold and ask to open an account they will tell you the closest they can do is to let you buy a safety deposit box.

Gold and Silver, precious metals, gems or jewels, they've all had value since the dawn of man.

Not really.

You can't print more Gold, Silver or any other metal.

Which means we have no control over its value. If we want the dollar to be worth more we slow down the rate we print money at, with precious metals the closest we can do is to literally change the currency so that there is less gold or silver, which is significantly more difficult.

We're not just going to use gold and silver. There'd also be certificates of ownership for various types of precious metals and gems and such.

Want to know what I call paper money that isn't backed up by anything physical? Fiat money.
If nothing else, people would be encouraged to barter as well,
ie I'll trade you a sack of corn for that power drill.

Bartering is inefficient and only savages do it. Those savages should have the light of civilization brought to them, by force if necessary.
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Postby Luka » Tue May 15, 2012 10:42 am

In addition to previous details of my plan to fix the country, I have thought about it further and discussed it among some peers of mine and came up with a few more points:

1. Work at state levels to re-haul medicade and medicare programs for the elderly, disabled, or poor.

2. End the creation of paper money, switching to all coins.

3. Fund educational programs to get people back on a healthier track and take steps to reduce obesidy.

4. Create national public transportation systems that use clean energy to encourage cleaner transportation options.

5.Cut space programs

6.Set strict and high education standards nationally, as well as salary increases for those whom deliver educational results.

7.Cut bailout programs

8. Compulsory Employer Health insurance programs for all employee's at a rate of 75/25

9. Create more homebound manufacturing plants to create jobs and pull away from China dependency.

10.Build home-buying confidence by intitally bottoming out interest rates and tightening loan qualifications, then steadily increase interest whilst loosening qualifications over a 10 year period.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue May 15, 2012 11:11 am

Luka wrote:1. Work at state levels to re-haul medicade and medicare programs for the elderly, disabled, or poor.

Good.

Luka wrote:2. End the creation of paper money, switching to all coins.

Great!

Luka wrote:3. Fund educational programs to get people back on a healthier track and take steps to reduce obesidy.

Tell people not to get fat, when they either won't come or won't care, at the taxpayer's expense? No thanks.

Luka wrote:4. Create national public transportation systems that use clean energy to encourage cleaner transportation options.

No.

Luka wrote:5.Cut space programs.

Hand space exploration over to the private sector! Good.

Luka wrote:6.Set strict and high education standards nationally, as well as salary increases for those whom deliver educational results.

Who will judge the results? The education system needs to be privatized, with government vouchers given to those who can't afford school.

Luka wrote:7.Cut bailout programs

Good.

Luka wrote:8. Compulsory Employer Health insurance programs for all employee's at a rate of 75/25

No.

Luka wrote:9. Create more homebound manufacturing plants to create jobs and pull away from China dependency.

Good!

Overall, an okay plan, though I vehemently disagree with some parts.
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Postby The ancient Kingdom of Putacaia » Tue May 15, 2012 11:47 am

The Fallow Lands wrote:The free market will fix everything. Just as in any natural and organic system, the economy will find its way to equilibrium and efficiency if we just abolish all taxes, regulaations and subsidies. I would deregulate gradually over a few years, starting with a repeal of legal tender laws and capital gains tax so as to allow for barter, free trade and monetary competition, as well as allowing anyone to trade and run a business, taking away the need for registration and licensing, and putting and end to every prohibition. As people set up businesses in agriculture and manufacturing to compete with contemporary oligopolies, I would abolish regulatory departments such as the FDA, DEA, EPA, etc., and leave any property damage and negative externalities to tort law. I would abolish the Department of. Education and allow academic innovation to be driven by competition. Eventually, everything will be privatized, profit incentives would encourage capitalists to maintain resources, thus effectively eliminating the Tragedy of the Commons, and the government would be liquidated and unable to interfere with the people's liberty to trade and produce.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue May 15, 2012 7:24 pm

The ancient Kingdom of Putacaia wrote:
The Fallow Lands wrote:The free market will fix everything. Just as in any natural and organic system, the economy will find its way to equilibrium and efficiency if we just abolish all taxes, regulaations and subsidies. I would deregulate gradually over a few years, starting with a repeal of legal tender laws and capital gains tax so as to allow for barter, free trade and monetary competition, as well as allowing anyone to trade and run a business, taking away the need for registration and licensing, and putting and end to every prohibition. As people set up businesses in agriculture and manufacturing to compete with contemporary oligopolies, I would abolish regulatory departments such as the FDA, DEA, EPA, etc., and leave any property damage and negative externalities to tort law. I would abolish the Department of. Education and allow academic innovation to be driven by competition. Eventually, everything will be privatized, profit incentives would encourage capitalists to maintain resources, thus effectively eliminating the Tragedy of the Commons, and the government would be liquidated and unable to interfere with the people's liberty to trade and produce.

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Otto Von Bismarck would fix everything. :blink:

Amen to that. Peace costs too much - war will pay the debts.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue May 15, 2012 7:31 pm

You know, I thought of the best way possible to clear the US debt. Tell China America has no debt, if they argue than carpet bomb their nation into dust. Boom, most of American debt is no more. And maybe Mexico could be annexed? Mexican oil and resources could provide stimulas to the economy, annexing Canada could to.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue May 15, 2012 7:32 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:You know, I thought of the best way possible to clear the US debt. Tell China America has no debt, if they argue than carpet bomb their nation into dust. Boom, most of American debt is no more. And maybe Mexico could be annexed? Mexican oil and resources could provide stimulas to the economy, annexing Canada could to.

China attack?

They'd crush us, them and NK. Bad idea.

Take Mexico?

Good idea.

Canada?

No. They're part of the British Empire. The Kingdom would come running to their defense.
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Postby 1980s America » Tue May 15, 2012 7:35 pm

We should look to the past, back to a better time. A time when Alf was still on the air.
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