Your plan for America?

[Alternate Universe 912]

It's not genocide if you kill the Polish.

-Restructure, lower, flatten and simplify the tax code to three brackets for income and two brackets for businesses and get rid of all loopholes, deductions, and so on. In particular the corporate tax rate, one of the highest in the world, should be reduced.
-Encourage expansion of health care through state-based plans and repeal the current law which is unconstitutional
-Cut spending across the board including military spending, Medicare, and Social Security
-Reform Social Security by raising the retirement age to 70 for people whose jobs don't involve physical labour
-Eliminate farm subsidies
-Encourage free trade pacts with other nations
-Encourage energy independence by building more nuclear power plants
-Build a national high speed railway system
-Introduce line item veto for the President
-Legalize marijuana and decriminalize hard drugs
-Reduce the drinking age to 18
-Ban abortion for most reasons except to save the life of the mother, rape, and incest
-Leave gay marriage to the states
-Adopt a doctrine that says the US will not tolerate genocide anywehre in the world
-Cut off aid to Pakistan and ally with India against China and Pakistan

No comments on this?

I wouldn't bother with excessive intervention, a national railroad, nuclear power plants, or having states run national health care. I've heard some legal experts consider the line item veto to be unconstitutional, and it would go to the Supreme Court. Otherwise, it's not bad.

[Rick Rollin]

It's not genocide if you kill the Polish.

Read up soviet war crimes.

[JJ Place]

Well I decided it would be fun to see what NS thinks is the best way to solve the USA economic situation. Well NS what is it? Tax hikes? Spending cuts? Me? You can see my complete political agenda below. And please no debate on whether abortion or gay marrige are good or not, this is a thread to debate other people's plans, not debate the credibility of abortion or gay rights.

Economic policy

Create a progressive tax system taxing the rich more than the poor, cut billions worth of uneeded spending out of the budget, nationalise the oil industry, nationalise healthcare and provide it universal, drill for oil in Alaska, legalize hemp and make it a government industry.

Social policy

Create a conservative social policy pushing states to illegalise abortion and gay marrige as well as ensuring the death penalty is legal and highly used.

International policy

Make a semi interventionist international policy however only go to war with another country should they be directly threatening to attack US soil.

Your policy NS?

This is not a plan for America; it's a glimpse into hell.

[Luka]

I've been thinking a lot lately about the very same thing. If I was in complete control, how would I fix the problems that we are facing today. i have came up with the following:
1. Cut governemnt spending and pass a balanced budget amendment
2. Hold pay for lawmakers until the countries deficit is diminished
3. Create a Fair and Equal tax code, that does not include tax breaks for the wealthy and top 2%.
4. Rid the tax credit for having children/ earned income credit. This will deter people from procreation for profit
5.Nationalize the death penalty to reduce the cost and overcrowding of the jail system
6.Legalize MaryJ and tax it.
7. Cut foreign oil dependency by offshore drilling as well as Alaskan drilling.
8. Stimulate a more effecient alternative energy program that does not include nuclear means.
9.Stop lending foreign aide and help to other countries until ours is under control.
10. Raise the minium wage nationally to help stimulate the economy.
11. Legalize gay marriage
12.Start drug testing for welfare applicants, and create programs to phase them into the workforce (temp welfare).
13.Use the new energy programs to create jobs.
14. Get rid of the lifetime presidential salary
15. End outsourcing of jobs to foreign countries for cheaper labor
16.State level balanced budget amendments as well as holding pay of lawmakers until state debt is diminished.

That's all I can think of right now....

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[Vaklor]

I've been thinking a lot lately about the very same thing. If I was in complete control, how would I fix the problems that we are facing today. i have came up with the following:
1. Cut governemnt spending and pass a balanced budget amendment
2. Hold pay for lawmakers until the countries deficit is diminished
3. Create a Fair and Equal tax code, that does not include tax breaks for the wealthy and top 2%.
4. Rid the tax credit for having children/ earned income credit. This will deter people from procreation for profit
5.Nationalize the death penalty to reduce the cost and overcrowding of the jail system
6.Legalize MaryJ and tax it.
7. Cut foreign oil dependency by offshore drilling as well as Alaskan drilling.
8. Stimulate a more effecient alternative energy program that does not include nuclear means.
9.Stop lending foreign aide and help to other countries until ours is under control.
10. Raise the minium wage nationally to help stimulate the economy.
11. Legalize gay marriage
12.Start drug testing for welfare applicants, and create programs to phase them into the workforce (temp welfare).
13.Use the new energy programs to create jobs.
14. Get rid of the lifetime presidential salary
15. End outsourcing of jobs to foreign countries for cheaper labor
16.State level balanced budget amendments as well as holding pay of lawmakers until state debt is diminished.

That's all I can think of right now....

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1. Good
2. Meh
3. A scaled tax? meh
4. Good
5. Good only if used correctly
6. If by MaryJ you mean Merihuana, then good.
7. Pretty good
8. Why no nuclear? Other than that, good.
9. Good
10. meh
11. Good
12. VERY good
13. Good
14. Does that mean that even after they are finished being president, they still get paid the salary? If so, cutting it is good
15. Good
16. Good for balanced budget, but why hold pay?
Overall a good plan. I'd vote for you

[United Vermonters]

I've been thinking a lot lately about the very same thing. If I was in complete control, how would I fix the problems that we are facing today. i have came up with the following:
1. Cut governemnt spending and pass a balanced budget amendment
2. Hold pay for lawmakers until the countries deficit is diminished
3. Create a Fair and Equal tax code, that does not include tax breaks for the wealthy and top 2%.
4. Rid the tax credit for having children/ earned income credit. This will deter people from procreation for profit
5.Nationalize the death penalty to reduce the cost and overcrowding of the jail system
6.Legalize MaryJ and tax it.
7. Cut foreign oil dependency by offshore drilling as well as Alaskan drilling.
8. Stimulate a more effecient alternative energy program that does not include nuclear means.
9.Stop lending foreign aide and help to other countries until ours is under control.
10. Raise the minium wage nationally to help stimulate the economy.
11. Legalize gay marriage
12.Start drug testing for welfare applicants, and create programs to phase them into the workforce (temp welfare).
13.Use the new energy programs to create jobs.
14. Get rid of the lifetime presidential salary
15. End outsourcing of jobs to foreign countries for cheaper labor
16.State level balanced budget amendments as well as holding pay of lawmakers until state debt is diminished.

That's all I can think of right now....

Check out my blog!

Some of these are good, but some do not help or send us in the wrong direction.

10, 15, 13, 3, and 6 would improve the economy and do no harm or benefit the country. Most of these are being held up by lobbyists in reality.

14, and 2 are liking scooping teaspoons out of a lake. They are symbolic, but cutting the salary of one man is not very important....

1: It's easy to say "lets cut spending". It is a very different thing to look into the eyes of the homeless people or 60 hour workers that spending often affects.

4: This is actually very important and the "procreate for profit" is BS made up by Fox News. Raising a child through college can cost 100,000 dollars. No tax cut is worth that.

5. should be left to the states IMO

6. How about you go live in those places and then get told that oil corporations are going to destroy your town by drilling there? Off shore drilling F***'s our coastline and Alaskan Drilling screws the environment. They are both off the table.

11. Should be done nationally and now. If homophobics don't like it they can get out we don't want you here.

12. It's said but true. Not Marijuana though, since it's now legal. Coke or anything harder should and often does prevent you from getting welfare money.

I don't know enough about BB ammendments to take a stance on them.

[Confederate Socialist States of America]

Well I decided it would be fun to see what NS thinks is the best way to solve the USA economic situation. Well NS what is it? Tax hikes? Spending cuts? Me? You can see my complete political agenda below. And please no debate on whether abortion or gay marrige are good or not, this is a thread to debate other people's plans, not debate the credibility of abortion or gay rights.

Economic policy

Create a progressive tax system taxing the rich more than the poor, cut billions worth of uneeded spending out of the budget, nationalise the oil industry, nationalise healthcare and provide it universal, drill for oil in Alaska, legalize hemp and make it a government industry.

Social policy

Create a conservative social policy pushing states to illegalise abortion and gay marrige as well as ensuring the death penalty is legal and highly used.

International policy

Make a semi interventionist international policy however only go to war with another country should they be directly threatening to attack US soil.

Your policy NS?

Economic policy

Disband the Federal Reserve and arrest all its employees for Treason. Nationalize all industries deemed critical to national security (military manufacturing, banking, mining, transportation). Arrest all corrupt politicians, bankers, HMO employees, and Internationalist CEOs who are judged to be enemies of the states and deport them to "Camps" to be tortured and executed. Seize their assets and use the money to fund National Healthcare and Free College Education for all.

Social policy

Leave Gay Marriage up to the states (demographically speaking, support for gay marriage is growing so fast that it can be made legal in most states via popular vote within the next 15-20 years). Place strong restrictions on abortion and keep the rate low by encouraging birth control and family planning. Expand the Death Penalty for use against all Child Molesters, Rapists, Politicians and Businessmen convicted of harming a large number of people with their bad policies. Seal the borders, but grant citizenship to illegal immigrants already here.

International policy

Place restrictions on Imports to protect U.S. Jobs. Withdraw the United States from the Rothschild controlled United Nations. Issue a degree that United States no longer recognizes Monarchies, Dictatorships, or Theocracies as a legitimate form of government. Tighten restrictions on the Executive Branch's ability to wage war without the consent of Congress. Return the United States to an Export-based Economy.

Issue a decree that any employee of the Catholic Church found to be obstructing a Criminal Investigation will be arrested and tried for Espionage and Treason. Any order from the Vatican that instructs priest or nuns to violate U.S. Law will be considered a direct Assault on the Sovereignty of the United States and be treated as such.

[Divair]

Well I decided it would be fun to see what NS thinks is the best way to solve the USA economic situation. Well NS what is it? Tax hikes? Spending cuts? Me? You can see my complete political agenda below. And please no debate on whether abortion or gay marrige are good or not, this is a thread to debate other people's plans, not debate the credibility of abortion or gay rights.

Economic policy

Create a progressive tax system taxing the rich more than the poor, cut billions worth of uneeded spending out of the budget, nationalise the oil industry, nationalise healthcare and provide it universal, drill for oil in Alaska, legalize hemp and make it a government industry.

Social policy

Create a conservative social policy pushing states to illegalise abortion and gay marrige as well as ensuring the death penalty is legal and highly used.

International policy

Make a semi interventionist international policy however only go to war with another country should they be directly threatening to attack US soil.

Your policy NS?

Economic policy

Disband the Federal Reserve and arrest all its employees for Treason. Nationalize all industries deemed critical to national security (military manufacturing, banking, mining, transportation). Arrest all corrupt politicians, bankers, HMO employees, and Internationalist CEOs who are judged to be enemies of the states and deport them to "Camps" to be tortured and executed. Seize their assets and use the money to fund National Healthcare and Free College Education for all.

Social policy

Leave Gay Marriage up to the states (demographically speaking, support for gay marriage is growing so fast that it can be made legal in most states via popular vote within the next 15-20 years). Place strong restrictions on abortion and keep the rate low by encouraging birth control and family planning. Expand the Death Penalty for use against all Child Molesters, Rapists, Politicians and Businessmen convicted of harming a large number of people with their bad policies. Seal the borders, but grant citizenship to illegal immigrants already here.

International policy

Place restrictions on Imports to protect U.S. Jobs. Withdraw the United States from the Rothschild controlled United Nations. Issue a degree that United States no longer recognizes Monarchies, Dictatorships, or Theocracies as a legitimate form of government. Tighten restrictions on the Executive Branch's ability to wage war without the consent of Congress. Return the United States to an Export-based Economy.

Issue a decree that any employee of the Catholic Church found to be obstructing a Criminal Investigation will be arrested and tried for Espionage and Treason. Any order from the Vatican that instructs priest or nuns to violate U.S. Law will be considered a direct Assault on the Sovereignty of the United States and be treated as such.

A bit too much arresting, executions, and torture.

Other than that, it is an okay plan.

[Death Metal]

And getting rid of the Fed is a generally bad idea too. No Federal Reserve = USD is worthless.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

And getting rid of the Fed is a generally bad idea too. No Federal Reserve = USD is worthless.

Restore gold/silver standard = get rid of the Fed = USD worth a lot more.

[Amacia]

And getting rid of the Fed is a generally bad idea too. No Federal Reserve = USD is worthless.

Restore gold/silver standard = get rid of the Fed = USD worth a lot more.

Abolish legal tender = get rid of the Fed = Free banking = Many currencies to choose from.

[Rick Rollin]

And getting rid of the Fed is a generally bad idea too. No Federal Reserve = USD is worthless.

Restore gold/silver standard = get rid of the Fed = USD worth a lot more, but I don't how much since Gold jumps around like a hardcore crackhead on meth (and crack).

Corrected.

[Distruzio]

Restore gold/silver standard = get rid of the Fed = USD worth a lot more.

Abolish legal tender = get rid of the Fed = Free banking = Many currencies to choose from.

Best plan.

[Rick Rollin]

Abolish legal tender = get rid of the Fed = Free banking = Many currencies to choose from.

Best plan.

Abolish legal tender = get rid of the Fed = Free banking = Many currencies to choose from = Currency speculation = Hell no.

[Distruzio]

Best plan.

Abolish legal tender = get rid of the Fed = Free banking = Many currencies to choose from = Currency speculation = Hell no.

You currently choose from a myriad of sodas to drink. The world hasn't imploded. Why should currency be any different? After all, if you choose to eat/drink the wrong thing, you die.

[Rick Rollin]

Abolish legal tender = get rid of the Fed = Free banking = Many currencies to choose from = Currency speculation = Hell no.

You currently choose from a myriad of sodas to drink. The world hasn't imploded. Why should currency be any different? After all, if you choose to eat/drink the wrong thing, you die.

Massive swings in currency value are bad.

[Revolutionary Jungle Dwellers]

And getting rid of the Fed is a generally bad idea too. No Federal Reserve = USD is worthless.

Killing the Fed wouldn’t make the dollar worthless. Killing the Fed would mean the federal government was longer a debt slave. The creation of money should be the prerogative of the state. Giving a monopoly to a private corporation to print as much money as it wants out of thin air is lunacy but as history shows the banking clans will just bide their time and repeat the same fraud again and again. To save America they have to be taken out. Unfortunately just like with the mafia it will be an endless task as that sort of power and wealth will always attract people to “the life” but you keep doing it anyway mainly as a deterrent and hope eventually they get the message.

[Socialdemokraterne]

Killing the Fed wouldn’t make the dollar worthless. Killing the Fed would mean the federal government was longer a debt slave. The creation of money should be the prerogative of the state. Giving a monopoly to a private corporation to print as much money as it wants out of thin air is lunacy but as history shows the banking clans will just bide their time and repeat the same fraud again and again. To save America they have to be taken out. Unfortunately just like with the mafia it will be an endless task as that sort of power and wealth will always attract people to “the life” but you keep doing it anyway mainly as a deterrent and hope eventually they get the message.

So nationalize the federal reserve and work to pay off what debt was owed to private holders. Then use the now nationalized system to issue currency as usual. Would that work?

[Amacia]

You currently choose from a myriad of sodas to drink. The world hasn't imploded. Why should currency be any different? After all, if you choose to eat/drink the wrong thing, you die.

Massive swings in currency value are bad.

How so? You mean like systemically bad?

[Rick Rollin]

Massive swings in currency value are bad.

How so? You mean like systemically bad?

They make the economy unstable.

[Genivaria]

Annex Canada and Mexico. Then we move on to the Caribbean, then South America, and then...THE WORLD!

[Amacia]

How so? You mean like systemically bad?

They make the economy unstable.

It would probably simulate NGDP targeting, increase Money supply as Money Velocity drops and vice versa.

[Socialdemokraterne]

I've already detailed a number of specifics on previous pages, but the gist of my plan is fairly straightforward: gradual transformation into a social democracy using Denmark as its example.

[Anitgrum]

>Economic Policy
kill the federal reserve, pour lighter fluid on its metaphorical corpse, and throw in a match for good measure.
Yes because last time some killed the central banking system in the U.S it hadeconomic repercussions what so ever.

kill the power of wall street, but do nothing else, because the government fucking KILLS EVERYTHING IT TOUCHES. anti-midas.
Yes lets kill Wall street because what ever happens theredoesn't effect the global economy..

>Social policy
Liberal use (yes, yes, corny pun) of the death penalty
Yes let do that because that won't clog up the Judaical system with ten of thousands of more appeals form those sentenced to death.

legalize all drugs; it is not the governments business how i kill myself; the same argument for abortion (Muh body muh choice) can be used for drugs.
WOW the first thing we actually agree on.

Abortion is also murder, now.
What happened to Muh body muh choice huh?

Gay marriage is a no. they have 100% of the rights as straight couples, and need nothing more. 40/50 states agree.
Yes they have all they right of a straight couples you know expect having the right to marry and to to approved medical produces when their significant other is otherwise incapacitated.

>international policy
do nothing. see anti midas. keep the military on top. unless attacked and it is proven that (country) attacked us, we will do nothing for (country)s affairs. calling this isolationism is like called me a hermit for not letting my neighbor knock on my windows at 2 in the morning.
What is the point of keeping the military at it current sides if it switching to offensive to a defensive role?

[Luka]

I've been thinking a lot lately about the very same thing. If I was in complete control, how would I fix the problems that we are facing today. i have came up with the following:
1. Cut governemnt spending and pass a balanced budget amendment
2. Hold pay for lawmakers until the countries deficit is diminished
3. Create a Fair and Equal tax code, that does not include tax breaks for the wealthy and top 2%.
4. Rid the tax credit for having children/ earned income credit. This will deter people from procreation for profit
5.Nationalize the death penalty to reduce the cost and overcrowding of the jail system
6.Legalize MaryJ and tax it.
7. Cut foreign oil dependency by offshore drilling as well as Alaskan drilling.
8. Stimulate a more effecient alternative energy program that does not include nuclear means.
9.Stop lending foreign aide and help to other countries until ours is under control.
10. Raise the minium wage nationally to help stimulate the economy.
11. Legalize gay marriage
12.Start drug testing for welfare applicants, and create programs to phase them into the workforce (temp welfare).
13.Use the new energy programs to create jobs.
14. Get rid of the lifetime presidential salary
15. End outsourcing of jobs to foreign countries for cheaper labor
16.State level balanced budget amendments as well as holding pay of lawmakers until state debt is diminished.

That's all I can think of right now....

Check out my blog!

Some of these are good, but some do not help or send us in the wrong direction.

10, 15, 13, 3, and 6 would improve the economy and do no harm or benefit the country. Most of these are being held up by lobbyists in reality.

14, and 2 are liking scooping teaspoons out of a lake. They are symbolic, but cutting the salary of one man is not very important....

1: It's easy to say "lets cut spending". It is a very different thing to look into the eyes of the homeless people or 60 hour workers that spending often affects.

4: This is actually very important and the "procreate for profit" is BS made up by Fox News. Raising a child through college can cost 100,000 dollars. No tax cut is worth that.

5. should be left to the states IMO

6. How about you go live in those places and then get told that oil corporations are going to destroy your town by drilling there? Off shore drilling F***'s our coastline and Alaskan Drilling screws the environment. They are both off the table.

11. Should be done nationally and now. If homophobics don't like it they can get out we don't want you here.

12. It's said but true. Not Marijuana though, since it's now legal. Coke or anything harder should and often does prevent you from getting welfare money.

I don't know enough about BB ammendments to take a stance on them.

Let's just think about the Alaskan and off-shore drilling for a second. Firstly, as much of an environmentalist as I am, I strongly agree that independence in oil is key to keeping this country out of a future firestorm of trouble and possible international conflict. People wouldn't mind too much about the drilling when we are looking at some of the highest foreclosure rates and unemployement rates in history. Without a suitable plan to fix the country they will not even have homes to go home to anyway. Also you have to remember to get the country on track it has to be baby steps. Tighter restrictions on tax credits, welfare, ect. Gets the American people working and living amongst their own means. It does no one anygood to contiously have debts that they can't afford to pay back.