NATION

PASSWORD

Your plan for America?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Divair
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63434
Founded: May 06, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Divair » Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:33 pm

Shadowlandistan wrote:1. Reverse Citizens United
2. Ban ALL money in politics, and establish a national voting tax to pay for all elections with a cap for each candidate.
3. Immediately end the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, and end private contracting interests for these wars.
4. Ban private prisons
5. End the war on drugs, treating drug abuse as a public health policy.
6. Ban police unions UNTIL we can re-train law enforcement to interact with the public with civility and respect.
7. Institute a public insurance option for those who need affordable healthcare.
8. Ban private and religious schools, similar to Finland regarding Education policy. Ensure that teachers have masters degrees.
9. Universal college educations.
10. End corporate tax loopholes and end the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

2. A tax to vote? =/
7. Universal healthcare would be easier, imo.
9. I'm not sure how feasible this would be. This would need insane amounts of funding.

User avatar
Fradonia
Envoy
 
Posts: 212
Founded: Jan 31, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Fradonia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:50 pm

Vousielle wrote:The complete opposite of yours, based on your previous posts.




[Edit] That sounded a whole lot meaner than I intended it to; I merely disagree with you on many, many issues.


I agree. You seemed slightly Pro-Market before.
Economic Left/Right: -0.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.33
http://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdch ... c=&newsoc=

Pro: Deism, Centrism, Monarchism.
Anti: Extremism, the American Media, Populism.

User avatar
Prussia-Steinbach
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 22386
Founded: Mar 12, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:56 pm

United States of Republicans wrote:1. Repeal gay marriage "that is just so stupid" Marriage is one man and one woman

2. Lowered Taxes and paychecks no stubbords

3. End Obama era

4. Get the government out of our business

5. Conserve resources

6. Get all America back to work

1. This thread has been done for weeks/months. Grave digging.

2. You're really not a pragmatist, are you?
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


User avatar
Rigsburg
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 55
Founded: Jun 17, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Rigsburg » Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:56 pm

Shadowlandistan wrote:1. Reverse Citizens United
2. Ban ALL money in politics, and establish a national voting tax to pay for all elections with a cap for each candidate.
3. Immediately end the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, and end private contracting interests for these wars.
4. Ban private prisons
5. End the war on drugs, treating drug abuse as a public health policy.
6. Ban police unions UNTIL we can re-train law enforcement to interact with the public with civility and respect.
7. Institute a public insurance option for those who need affordable healthcare.
8. Ban private and religious schools, similar to Finland regarding Education policy. Ensure that teachers have masters degrees.
9. Universal college educations.
10. End corporate tax loopholes and end the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.


2. No, forcing people to support candidates they oppose is wrong.
3. Pulling out abruptly would probably lead to a lot of instability, gradually is probably better.
4. Why?, government prison guard workers and their unions are just as bad a special interest as private management companies.
5.Yes.
6.Yes.
8. No, that infringes on freedom of religion and makes the public school system a monopoly, which makes it even worse. Higher standards for teachers are ok though.
9. Probably too expensive and wasteful.

User avatar
Shadowlandistan
Diplomat
 
Posts: 703
Founded: Oct 05, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Shadowlandistan » Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:59 pm

Divair wrote:
Shadowlandistan wrote:1. Reverse Citizens United
2. Ban ALL money in politics, and establish a national voting tax to pay for all elections with a cap for each candidate.
3. Immediately end the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, and end private contracting interests for these wars.
4. Ban private prisons
5. End the war on drugs, treating drug abuse as a public health policy.
6. Ban police unions UNTIL we can re-train law enforcement to interact with the public with civility and respect.
7. Institute a public insurance option for those who need affordable healthcare.
8. Ban private and religious schools, similar to Finland regarding Education policy. Ensure that teachers have masters degrees.
9. Universal college educations.
10. End corporate tax loopholes and end the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

2. A tax to vote? =/
7. Universal healthcare would be easier, imo.
9. I'm not sure how feasible this would be. This would need insane amounts of funding.


2. It wouldn't be a tax to vote, it would be a tax to hold elections so there would be no need for private money to be involved and effect the process. Call it public financing of elections.
7. A public insurance option is pretty much universal care, only under my plan we wouldn't ban private insurance, so people would have a private option if they choose to do so.
9. It would be feasible to extend public education another 2 years, but out of all of the things on my list that would be lower priority.
Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.54

You are an anarcho-collectivistic.

Cosmopolitan 43%- Nationalistic
Secular 104% -Fundamentalist
Visionary 72%- Reactionary
Anarchistic 76%- Authoritarian
Communistic 34%- Capitalistic
Pacifist 47%- Militaristic
Ecological 16%- Anthropocentric

User avatar
Fradonia
Envoy
 
Posts: 212
Founded: Jan 31, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Fradonia » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:06 pm

*sigh* I'm sure this will start an argument, but whatever.

Economic Policy (According to how the OP posted his).

Economic Policy

Try and keep a Pro-Business attitude towards most things, Loosen up Business Regulation a little (ONLY a little though), Lower Taxes for the Middle Class and the Poor/Working class, And either keep the taxes for the Rich we have now ( if you look into it, they're actually paying a pretty decent amount), or raise them a little. (Once again, ONLY a little.) Drill for Oil in Alaska, try to keep it as clean as we can up there in Alaska with out interfering with Business too much. Reform Social security.

Social Policy

Leave the Social Issues up to the states. Some things are just too major to let the entire Federal Government make one decision on. ( Whats the old Ben Franklin about the 51% vs the 49%, I'll have to look that up and edit that in here.)

International Relations

Pull most of our troops out of Afghanistan, but keep some stationed to maintained a slight Military presence in that part of the world.
Also, maintain a few key Relationships with other countries ( The two biggest ones being Britain and Israel) but otherwise when it comes to the
military, lets go with isolationism, and stay as neutral as we can.
Economic Left/Right: -0.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.33
http://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdch ... c=&newsoc=

Pro: Deism, Centrism, Monarchism.
Anti: Extremism, the American Media, Populism.

User avatar
Shadowlandistan
Diplomat
 
Posts: 703
Founded: Oct 05, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Shadowlandistan » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:07 pm

Rigsburg wrote:
Shadowlandistan wrote:1. Reverse Citizens United
2. Ban ALL money in politics, and establish a national voting tax to pay for all elections with a cap for each candidate.
3. Immediately end the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, and end private contracting interests for these wars.
4. Ban private prisons
5. End the war on drugs, treating drug abuse as a public health policy.
6. Ban police unions UNTIL we can re-train law enforcement to interact with the public with civility and respect.
7. Institute a public insurance option for those who need affordable healthcare.
8. Ban private and religious schools, similar to Finland regarding Education policy. Ensure that teachers have masters degrees.
9. Universal college educations.
10. End corporate tax loopholes and end the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.


2. No, forcing people to support candidates they oppose is wrong.
3. Pulling out abruptly would probably lead to a lot of instability, gradually is probably better.
4. Why?, government prison guard workers and their unions are just as bad a special interest as private management companies.
5.Yes.
6.Yes.
8. No, that infringes on freedom of religion and makes the public school system a monopoly, which makes it even worse. Higher standards for teachers are ok though.
9. Probably too expensive and wasteful.


2. It's not forcing anyone to vote for anyone, what we ask is that people pay a tax to finance elections. Money in politics is corrupting and needs to be stopped immediately.
3. Our politicians have been saying that for years, it's time we end these wars and their private interests now.
4. Nobody should make a profit by sending people to prison. That's the highest form if immorality. If people want more prisons, pay more taxes.
8. Look at the Finnish education system, that would be my model. I don't believe that's an infringment on someone's religious beliefs. In order for a society to function, every child needs to attend a secular school. If they want to have religious education on the side, that's their choice, but not a substitute for a secular education.
9. Like I said before, this is a lower priority on my agenda, but something to look into.
Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.54

You are an anarcho-collectivistic.

Cosmopolitan 43%- Nationalistic
Secular 104% -Fundamentalist
Visionary 72%- Reactionary
Anarchistic 76%- Authoritarian
Communistic 34%- Capitalistic
Pacifist 47%- Militaristic
Ecological 16%- Anthropocentric

User avatar
4years
Senator
 
Posts: 4971
Founded: Aug 17, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby 4years » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:10 pm

economic
Make private enterprise illegal, state control of the entire economy. Right to work established in the sense that having a job is a basic human right, all unemployed people offered a job by the state. Unions left alone or given more power to provide a workers organization not run by the state and semi-indpendence for the news to keep the state honest. Implement workers councils and democractically elect adminstrators for state bussiness, subejct to recall at any time. Make taxes 100% will payments made out by the state on a need based system. Everyone receives the same amount of wealth.

social
Legalize gay marriage. Remove tax free status from religous organizations. Free state owned healthcare and school system. 2nd amendment removed guns made illegal. Remove term limits, but make all goverment officals elected and subject to recall at any time. Remove age requirments to abtain office, replace with required eduacation levels. Work to reduce pollution.

international
Provide aid to devolping countries. Work with UN and other international organizations to prevent gencide and promote democracy and socialism. Use force only in accordance with international law to prevent or halt gencide or if the US is attacked. Pursue a goal of no nuclear weapons. refuse to pay the national debt. Cancel all free trade agreements and only trade with nations that comply with international law and follow a reasonable envirmental policy. Exachange a gobal shift to socialism and when this is acheived allow the state to wither away as no longer required or required only as an adminstrative body.

overall
Shift to socialism with the goal of a classess and ultimately stateless society that ecompassess the entire world.
Political Compass: Economic Left/Right: -10.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -10
"Those who do not move, do not notice their chains. "
-Rosa Luxemburg
"In place of bourgeois society with all of it's classes and class antagonisms, we shall have an association, one in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all" -Karl Marx
There is no such thing as rational self interest; pure reason leads to the greatest good for the greatest number.

User avatar
Ajax Prime
Diplomat
 
Posts: 683
Founded: May 17, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Ajax Prime » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:14 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Economic policy

Create a progressive tax system taxing the rich more than the poor, cut billions worth of uneeded spending out of the budget, nationalise the oil industry, nationalise healthcare and provide it universal, drill for oil in Alaska, legalize hemp and make it a government industry.
Social policy

Create a conservative social policy pushing states to illegalise abortion and gay marrige as well as ensuring the death penalty is legal and highly used.

International policy

Make a semi interventionist international policy however only go to war with another country should they be directly threatening to attack US soil.

Your policy NS?

After a slight amendment, this is more than acceptable,
National Population: 58 Million
Military Size: 182,000
More to Come.
American
Detroit Red Wings Fan
HVAC Technician
I fucking love corn dogs

User avatar
Eustio
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 58
Founded: Jul 26, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Eustio » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:14 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Well I decided it would be fun to see what NS thinks is the best way to solve the USA economic situation. Well NS what is it? Tax hikes? Spending cuts? Me? You can see my complete political agenda below. And please no debate on whether abortion or gay marrige are good or not, this is a thread to debate other people's plans, not debate the credibility of abortion or gay rights.

Economic policy

Create a progressive tax system taxing the rich more than the poor, cut billions worth of uneeded spending out of the budget, nationalise the oil industry, nationalise healthcare and provide it universal, drill for oil in Alaska, legalize hemp and make it a government industry.

Social policy

Create a conservative social policy pushing states to illegalise abortion and gay marrige as well as ensuring the death penalty is legal and highly used.

International policy

Make a semi interventionist international policy however only go to war with another country should they be directly threatening to attack US soil.

Your policy NS?

Why we need a plan for it? It is aleready doomed, anyways if i made one it would been split it into two and make a second civile war. But when i think about it it sounds more like a hollywood idea... :rofl:
Bad ass texan! 8D

User avatar
Elevteria
Envoy
 
Posts: 210
Founded: May 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Elevteria » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:17 pm

declare war on Sweden and surrender in the same moment on the condition to become a part of it :lol:

User avatar
Divair
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63434
Founded: May 06, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Divair » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:28 pm

Shadowlandistan wrote:
Divair wrote:2. A tax to vote? =/
7. Universal healthcare would be easier, imo.
9. I'm not sure how feasible this would be. This would need insane amounts of funding.


2. It wouldn't be a tax to vote, it would be a tax to hold elections so there would be no need for private money to be involved and effect the process. Call it public financing of elections.
7. A public insurance option is pretty much universal care, only under my plan we wouldn't ban private insurance, so people would have a private option if they choose to do so.
9. It would be feasible to extend public education another 2 years, but out of all of the things on my list that would be lower priority.


2. Eh, alright.
7. That's pretty much what every universal healthcare system does.
9. I dunno, I'm still a bit skeptical.

User avatar
Wheeled States of Bifid
Diplomat
 
Posts: 568
Founded: Jun 22, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Wheeled States of Bifid » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:07 pm

1. Legalize marijuana and prostitution. Have them highly regulated and tax the bejezzus out of them.

2. A straight usage tax.

3. Job applicants can only be chosen based on qualifications (education, training, previous experience).

4. Except in crises, the authorities of the three branches of government are absolute: Legislative makes the law, Judiciary ensure the laws are constitutional and Executive enforces the law. None of the special privileges that Obama has been using so much especially lately.

5. Major corporations headquartered in the United States must have at least 75% of their workforce in the US.

6. No more military involvement in foreign affairs unless American citizens are threatened

7. Any dealings with foreign countries must be on a level playing field. China wouldn't happen with me.

8. The practice of tenure in educational establishments would be abolished.

9. Drug companies and healthcare providers must become regulated, Gas companies likewise. They have to show why their prices should be what they are. If they can't they must lower them to a government standard.

There's a lot more but this is what I have for now.
Afforess wrote:This is how Democracy dies - with thunderous applause.
Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18
J.E. Wheeler, Guardian, Wheeled States of Bifid, WA Delegate, Democratium

"Insanity is a gradual process, don't rush it."

"People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people."

Generation 36 (The first time you see this, copy it into your signature on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.)

User avatar
Great Yorkshire
Diplomat
 
Posts: 541
Founded: May 19, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Great Yorkshire » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:11 pm

1. Find some grown ups.

2. Try letting them run your country for a change.
The Queen of quips, the Sultan of snickering, the President of puns, the Generalissimo of jollity, the Tsar of zingers, the Guru of guffaws, the Jam Sahib of jokes, the Maharajah of mirth, the Chhatrapati of cheer, the Poligar of punch lines, the Rao Bahadur of revelry, the Baivarapatish of bullshit, the Chief Executive of chuckles, the Managing Director of merriment, the Deputy Financial Officer of damn funny observations, the Satrap of satire, who'll never give you a flat tire, 'cos she's not that dire, she used to have testicles, she still wears spectacles, the Edith Piaf of amateur table tennis (she regrets nothing about her backhand smashes) and the self-declared inventor of the prawn burrito... The one, the only... The chunter hunter... Great Yorkshire.

User avatar
Nordengrund
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7531
Founded: Jun 20, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Nordengrund » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:59 pm

Economic Policy: Uphold free market capitalism, make healthcare optional to the individual, but still free and affordable, and abolish all taxes except sales tax.

Political Policy: conservatism, outlaw abortion and homosexuality

Foreign Policy: I support non- interventionism and only believe in violence as a last resort.
1 John 1:9

User avatar
Kentsland
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1578
Founded: Jun 29, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Kentsland » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:59 pm

I'm not very political, but a number of things I would do.

1 Legalize Marijuana & Prostitution: Although I've never done it, Marijuana is not a bad drug. Cigarettes are legal and perhaps worse. The Government will then charge a rather high tax on it. It'll save a lot of money in the sense of not having to execute raids for the drug. Of course it can only be grown by a licensed farmer (Jobs!) and you can use it while driving and most be 21. I am also thinking that you should have have a Permit to be able to buy it/possess it. Although cheap and anyone can do it, if you're arrested for any crimes pertaining to illegal use of it you'd be revoked of the permit. For the hoes, each legal prostitute must have a permit, receive a medical test every 3 months (Including STD tests) and shown on her permit. High government tax on it, and must be bought at a registered/regulated Brothel.

2 Increase Oil Drilling: The US' "Let everyone waste oil and when they run out, we'll be the only ones with it and powerful" tactic is too risky, and by the time the rest of the world runs out or is not reachable, better cars not needing oil will be made. And it won't be America, because the Gov won't allow it.

3 Secure The Border And Stop Deportation: Pretty much, the "Quota" has been met. And if people are going to whine and moan and complain because they're job was stolen, then do your job better! Leads into my next, rather radical policy.

4 Make Unemployed Work: A lot of Americans are lazy ass bums. "No Jobs" I see plenty of jobs. But people won't work at McDonalds or a Gas Station because they think they're "too good" for it. Well, I think the Gov should intervene. Force them to work. A new gov department, or merged into Labour, will be tasked with appointing people to jobs if they don't find their within 3 Months. Failure to comply? Prison seems too over-reactive. Military? Maybe. FDR New-Deal like programs? Maybe, build bridges and such.

5 Encourage Manufacturing Industry: We need to stop manufacturing everything from foreign countries. But industries will employ cheap 10 year olds in Indonesia then our own. So, encourage factories to stay in the US. Not sure how, but maybe Tax Breaks for employing US Residents? Or create a higher Tariff? Maybe make US-made products in stores have a lower tax than those made in other countries? Oh yeah, this will create more jobs for number 4.

User avatar
Tlaceceyaya
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9932
Founded: Oct 17, 2011
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Tlaceceyaya » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:26 pm

Kentsland wrote:I'm not very political, but a number of things I would do.

1 Legalize Marijuana & Prostitution: Although I've never done it, Marijuana is not a bad drug. Cigarettes are legal and perhaps worse. The Government will then charge a rather high tax on it. It'll save a lot of money in the sense of not having to execute raids for the drug. Of course it can only be grown by a licensed farmer (Jobs!) and you can use it while driving and most be 21. I am also thinking that you should have have a Permit to be able to buy it/possess it. Although cheap and anyone can do it, if you're arrested for any crimes pertaining to illegal use of it you'd be revoked of the permit. For the hoes, each legal prostitute must have a permit, receive a medical test every 3 months (Including STD tests) and shown on her permit. High government tax on it, and must be bought at a registered/regulated Brothel.

2 Increase Oil Drilling: The US' "Let everyone waste oil and when they run out, we'll be the only ones with it and powerful" tactic is too risky, and by the time the rest of the world runs out or is not reachable, better cars not needing oil will be made. And it won't be America, because the Gov won't allow it.

3 Secure The Border And Stop Deportation: Pretty much, the "Quota" has been met. And if people are going to whine and moan and complain because they're job was stolen, then do your job better! Leads into my next, rather radical policy.

4 Make Unemployed Work: A lot of Americans are lazy ass bums. "No Jobs" I see plenty of jobs. But people won't work at McDonalds or a Gas Station because they think they're "too good" for it. Well, I think the Gov should intervene. Force them to work. A new gov department, or merged into Labour, will be tasked with appointing people to jobs if they don't find their within 3 Months. Failure to comply? Prison seems too over-reactive. Military? Maybe. FDR New-Deal like programs? Maybe, build bridges and such.

5 Encourage Manufacturing Industry: We need to stop manufacturing everything from foreign countries. But industries will employ cheap 10 year olds in Indonesia then our own. So, encourage factories to stay in the US. Not sure how, but maybe Tax Breaks for employing US Residents? Or create a higher Tariff? Maybe make US-made products in stores have a lower tax than those made in other countries? Oh yeah, this will create more jobs for number 4.

4: The unemployed are TRYING to find work. There's a bias against them because of exactly that attitude. Employers don't want to hire people who lost their jobs and have been unemployed for a while because they have the same attitude towards them as you. Meanwhile, they become less able to present themselves as well because they don't have any income.
Economic Left/Right -9.75, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -8.87
Also, Bonobos.
I am a market socialist, atheist, more to come maybe at some point
Dimitri Tsafendas wrote:You are guilty not only when you commit a crime, but also when you do nothing to prevent it when you have the chance.

User avatar
Kentsland
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1578
Founded: Jun 29, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Kentsland » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:31 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:4: The unemployed are TRYING to find work. There's a bias against them because of exactly that attitude. Employers don't want to hire people who lost their jobs and have been unemployed for a while because they have the same attitude towards them as you. Meanwhile, they become less able to present themselves as well because they don't have any income.


Add that to Religion, Sex, and Disabilities to list of things you can't deny people for. Although those don't really work...

Tax Breaks or some means of an incentive to hiring former unemployed?

User avatar
Divair
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63434
Founded: May 06, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Divair » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:16 am

Kentsland wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:4: The unemployed are TRYING to find work. There's a bias against them because of exactly that attitude. Employers don't want to hire people who lost their jobs and have been unemployed for a while because they have the same attitude towards them as you. Meanwhile, they become less able to present themselves as well because they don't have any income.


Add that to Religion, Sex, and Disabilities to list of things you can't deny people for. Although those don't really work...

Tax Breaks or some means of an incentive to hiring former unemployed?

Tax breaks don't incentivize employment. They just make companies who are already hiring richer.

What we need is to put in place civil works programs and education programs.

User avatar
Blakk Metal
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6737
Founded: Jun 07, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Blakk Metal » Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:58 pm

Shadowlandistan wrote:
Rigsburg wrote:
2. No, forcing people to support candidates they oppose is wrong.
3. Pulling out abruptly would probably lead to a lot of instability, gradually is probably better.
4. Why?, government prison guard workers and their unions are just as bad a special interest as private management companies.
5.Yes.
6.Yes.
8. No, that infringes on freedom of religion and makes the public school system a monopoly, which makes it even worse. Higher standards for teachers are ok though.
9. Probably too expensive and wasteful.


2. It's not forcing anyone to vote for anyone, what we ask is that people pay a tax to finance elections. Money in politics is corrupting and needs to be stopped immediately.

It is forcing people to pay some Marxian-Leninist asshat to campaign for state capitalism.
8. Look at the Finnish education system, that would be my model. I don't believe that's an infringment on someone's religious beliefs. In order for a society to function, every child needs to attend a secular school. If they want to have religious education on the side, that's their choice, but not a substitute for a secular education.

If you monopolize education, you, consciously or not, forcibly impart your opinions and values on others.
9. Like I said before, this is a lower priority on my agenda, but something to look into.

Colleges are artificial businesses with imaginary value. Why are you wasting money on them?
4years wrote:economic
Make private enterprise illegal, state control of the entire economy. Right to work established in the sense that having a job is a basic human right, all unemployed people offered a job by the state. Unions left alone or given more power to provide a workers organization not run by the state and semi-indpendence for the news to keep the state honest. Implement workers councils and democractically elect adminstrators for state bussiness, subejct to recall at any time. Make taxes 100% will payments made out by the state on a need based system. Everyone receives the same amount of wealth.

social
Legalize gay marriage. Remove tax free status from religous organizations. Free state owned healthcare and school system. 2nd amendment removed guns made illegal. Remove term limits, but make all goverment officals elected and subject to recall at any time. Remove age requirments to abtain office, replace with required eduacation levels. Work to reduce pollution.

international
Provide aid to devolping countries. Work with UN and other international organizations to prevent gencide and promote democracy and socialism. Use force only in accordance with international law to prevent or halt gencide or if the US is attacked. Pursue a goal of no nuclear weapons. refuse to pay the national debt. Cancel all free trade agreements and only trade with nations that comply with international law and follow a reasonable envirmental policy. Exachange a gobal shift to socialism and when this is acheived allow the state to wither away as no longer required or required only as an adminstrative body.

overall
Shift to socialism with the goal of a classess and ultimately stateless society that ecompassess the entire world.

Communism is good.
Marxism is bad.
Blanquism is worse.
State Capitalism is an abomination.
Divair wrote:
Kentsland wrote:
Add that to Religion, Sex, and Disabilities to list of things you can't deny people for. Although those don't really work...

Tax Breaks or some means of an incentive to hiring former unemployed?

Tax breaks don't incentivize employment. They just make companies who are already hiring richer.

What we need is to put in place civil works programs and education programs.

What we need is an end to capitalism, which is so outdated it isn't even funny anymore.

User avatar
Socialdemokraterne
Minister
 
Posts: 3448
Founded: Dec 04, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Socialdemokraterne » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:02 pm

My ten-part plan for the USA:

1. 24-hour restaurants within walking distance from all points, and every menu is the dollar menu
2. Government-subsidized cultivation of everyone's personal grove of money trees
3. Replacement of the current national personification (Uncle Sam) with Fonzie or Alf
4. Repeal the more repressive laws of chemistry and physics, such as conservation of matter and energy
5. Institute a strict "Wacky Costume Wednesdays" policy for diplomatic summits
6. Schedule every diplomatic summit from here to forever to land on a Wednesday
7. Constitutional amendment: all statements in any state-of-the-union address shall henceforth be delivered in the form of a question
8. Free tacos for voting
9. Make getting sick or injured illegal under penalty of treatment
10. Require all political officials to wear the logos of their sponsors as visible suit patches and car bumper stickers; private individuals may design their own logos if desired

And that, my friends, is how America was saved.
A social democracy following a variant of the Nordic model of the European welfare state composed of a union of Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Greenland, Denmark, Sleswig-Holstein, and a bit of Estonia.

Leder du måske efter en dansk region? Dansk!

User avatar
Magmia
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1989
Founded: Nov 01, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Magmia » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:36 pm

Nordengrund wrote:Economic Policy: Uphold free market capitalism, make healthcare optional to the individual, but still free and affordable, and abolish all taxes except sales tax.

Political Policy: conservatism, outlaw abortion and homosexuality

Foreign Policy: I support non- interventionism and only believe in violence as a last resort.

:rofl:

I take it that you're not a Centrist anymore?

User avatar
Lialoth
Diplomat
 
Posts: 677
Founded: Apr 30, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lialoth » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:47 am

Well, time for everyone to hate me.

1. Take an axe to the US' military budget
It's somewhere in the region of WAY TOO FUCKING LARGE. Pull it back, significantly. Ideally I'd want to see it cut as much as 50%, but I'll settle for a much more modest 25% reduction. The US doesn't need a military larger than the rest of the world's combined.

2. Cut corporate welfare, as it is.
Instead, put money into the corporation by scooping up stocks. Allow them to be sold back, at the cost originally purchased. This would help "save" companies that are "too big to fail", but without it being a shaky "loan" that will likely never be repaid.

3. Decriminalize, regulate and tax all recreational drugs.
It would likely serve to reduce crime motivated by needing money for their drugs. It would also cut money from organized crime and make drug use/purchasing overall safer.

4. Decriminalize & regulate prostitution.
It's safer, healthier and less exploitative this way for the workers. It helps cut out flat out abusive parasitic elements of the *cough* "profession" and makes things overall safer.

5. Remove the tax exempt status of certain religious groups
In particular the ones that are overtly corporate in nature, or overtly hate groups. The Westboro Baptist Church springs violently to mind for the second group. They can say what they'd like, but they shouldn't effectively be compensated by the government for hate speech.

4. Pump money into infrastructure.
The first two steps would result in a fair bit of cash flow for other things. Things that actually help people. Education, for example, as well as public health care could use some loving. Maybe remove the rather terrible toll roads from use.

5. Higher standards for teachers. Pay them higher wages.
I think this one almost goes without saying. Teachers in the US are paid shockingly little for the work they do, and the standards for them is likewise low.

6. Legalize same-sex marriage federally.
Marriage equality, fuck yeah. There's literally no valid reason this isn't happening.

7. Open talks about the extent of the second amendment.
This really needs to be done: Honest discussion about how far the second amendment's supposed to reach and action on it. That way there could be a LITTLE less argument on the topic.

8. Reopen the constitution for updating in general.
The constitution, although an interesting document, is growing steadily out of date, irrelevant. Many important rights, such as the right of bodily autonomy and the right to privacy aren't guaranteed anywhere in US law. Rectify this.

9. Work against municipal smoking bans
The only place "government" has any real room to ban smoking in would be government owned buildings. Banning smoking in someone's bar they own, you may as well ban smoking in their home.

10. Ban genital mutilation on small children
Regardless of sex. Boys and girls both deserve equal protection under the law.

11. Actively work against creationism in schools
I forgot that this was actually an issue in the US. Added it.

That's everything.
Last edited by Lialoth on Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:14 pm, edited 4 times in total.
I'm RPing a distant past tech nation populated nearly exclusively by three foot tall bipedal mice who are undergoing subtle speciation due to long lasting social policies.
If this is too ridiculous for you, you might want to opt out of RPing with me.
Abatael wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Or, do logical thing and stop protecting child rapists.


That seems rather illogical.

User avatar
Camelza
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12604
Founded: Mar 04, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Camelza » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:35 am

Legalise all drugs,ban cigarettes
Legalise abortions for pregnant males
All the LGTB rights!
Bun guns,only catapults & bows allowed
Pro-Cheese
Pro-Surfing competitions
Free porn for everyone

1.Purchase the Bahamas
2.Colonise Antarctica
3.Steal Rio's Carnival from Brazil and put it in Hawaii
4.Lift the embargo on Cuba and buy all of their cigars
5.Pet Russia on the head
6.Exchange the Virgin Islands for mt Everest
7.Tell to Iran that Pakistan said "Iran's a really big slut" and watch them fight
8.Adopt a baby seal

1.Build a pony version of the statue of Liberty in New York C. and rename Manhattan to Manehattan,also,put a limit to the rents
2.Fill the Mississipi with picturesque riverboats and dress rednecks with tuxedos
3.Free entrance tanning salons in all of California and a huge dirt bike arena right outside of LA
4.Change Wyoming's name to Why-Omnomnoming and build a 100 feet tall,edible,statue of the Pillsbury man in Cheyenne
5.Fill Texas with orange orchards and rename it New Florida
6.Change Miami's name to YEEEEAAAAAAHHHH City and hold weekly airboat races
7.Revive the recording industry of Chigago
8.Built a huge factory producing electric cars outside Philadelphia and a copy of Cutty Sark in the docks
9.Create a tropical rainforest in Arizona
10.Legalise all drugs
11.Use all of Idaho for cannabis cultivation
12.Use all of Puerto Rico for coca cultivation
13.Sell the damn things
14.Profit
Last edited by Camelza on Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:40 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Moving Forward Inc
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1770
Founded: Jul 10, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Moving Forward Inc » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:21 am

Personal freedoms/rights:

LGBT Equality (Gay marriage):
Give equality at all costs, supporting gay marriage if that is the best option at the time.
Legalize all drugs:
Allow all drugs, Marijuana, Cocaine, Meth, anything, to be sold as long as the supplier pays Sales/GS tax and Income tax.
Legalize all non-radioactive weapons:
Allow all weapons from baseball bats to air pistols to shotguns to combat rifles to grenade launchers be sold and bought without any restrictions whatsoever.
Legalize all consensual sex:
This includes Prostitution, LGBT sex, Group sex, Incest, whatever, allow it without restrictions.
Allow all abortion up to 20 weeks and ban all after that:
Allow exceptions for cases of rape.

Economic freedoms/rights:

Destroy the health system:
Repeal Obama-care and ban all forms of state funded healthcare.
Destroy the education system:
Introduce separation of school and state and ban all forms of state funded education.
Destroy the welfare system:
Ban all state funded welfare based on giving money to people or corporations.
Go on a privatizing spree:
Privatize almost everything that isn't Police, Military, Courts, or Government administration.
Cut down on military:
Cut military funding 50%, it's important to have a large military but there is such a thing as too large. Take away all soldiers from all attempts to destroy corrupt regimes, allow them to die from the inside, and put a new focus on liberating countries that are being attacked by outsiders.
Cut spending heavily and pay back the debt:
With the previous economic action taken most sources of spending will be gone and there will be room for paying back the debt. At the same time reduce taxes according to the level of spending.
Take away all taxes that are not Income tax or Sales tax:
Stop all taxes that discriminate between different individuals and industries.

Political freedoms/rights:

1. Get rid of the state system and make the elections based on the decisions of the whole nation.
2. Destroy all filibustering, state funding of politicians, the two-party elections system, and allow anonymous donations to politicians.
3. Introduce binding referenda - allow citizens to vote on issues in referendums with a 66% to pass a law and 33% to repeal a law threshold.
This test is biased and has stupid questions, but anyways:
Old (from when my nation was founded):
Economic Right: 6.50
Social Libertarian:-3.67
New (11 December 2012):
Economic Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian: -5.23
Be aware that I am only so near to the centre of the economic axe because this test associates being right-wing with crony capitalism, trickle down, and letting business be held to lower standards than individuals under law.

"Democracy is the road to socialism"
- Karl Marx

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Arikea, Bradfordville, Celritannia, Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs, Enormous Gentiles, Fartsniffage, Galloism, Narland, Perchan, Pizza Friday Forever91, Port Caverton, Saiwana, The Jamesian Republic, The Snazzylands, Uiiop, Valrifall

Advertisement

Remove ads

cron