Your plan for America?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

1. Replace the federal income tax with a requirement each state to pay the federal government 20% of GDP; the states can raise the money however they like.
2. Cut spending across the board by 10%.
3. Reinstitute universal conscription.
4. Establish a school voucher system.
5. Ban abortion, gay marriage, pornography, adultery and fornication.
6. Focus government resources on improving infrastructure.
7. Replace prisons with labor camps.
8. Allow oil/ natural gas drilling on federal lands; grant approval for keystone.
9. Pull out of Iraq, limit troop presence in Afghanistan.

Good Holy Lord, I think I love you.

[Imperial--japan]

Nuke China from Orbit

[Hittanryan]

1. Replace the federal income tax with a requirement each state to pay the federal government 20% of GDP; the states can raise the money however they like.
2. Cut spending across the board by 10%.
3. Reinstitute universal conscription.
4. Establish a school voucher system.
5. Ban abortion, gay marriage, pornography, adultery and fornication.
6. Focus government resources on improving infrastructure.
7. Replace prisons with labor camps.
8. Allow oil/ natural gas drilling on federal lands; grant approval for keystone.
9. Pull out of Iraq, limit troop presence in Afghanistan.

1. What's the point?
2. Cutting spending during a recession? Do you want things to get worse?
3. To what end? Conscripts perform worse than volunteers and there are no conventional wars on the horizon.
4. Great, religious brainwashing and worsening the problems US students have with science, math, and engineering.
5. Let me guess, you're a big fan of how Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the Taliban ran their governments?
6. How do you plan on doing this while taking an axe to the budget?
7. Convicts now replace law-abiding citizens in the job market. Lovely.
8. Gas prices are driven by global demand and speculation. The oil sands, Keystone, drilling in the Gulf and Arctic, none of it will do a damn thing. Even if we drill oil in the US, there's nothing saying it must be sold to the US.
9. We're already doing that.

[Arborlawn]

Prompted by the thread, "Your plan for America", I have decided to start this thread to openly explain my plans for the United States of America, and for the ever so pleasing criticisms of NSers. So, please, after reading my plans, completely critique every bit of what I believe.

Economic Policy

1. Redefine types of corporations. We shall redefine corporations as either a Family Business, a Cooperative, a Small Business, a Worker Codetermination Corporation, or a Regular Corporation. A Family Business is well, of course, a business registered as having been own and operated by a family and its members. A Cooperative, a business in which all workers are also owners in equal proportion. A Small Business, a business not owned or operated exclusively or minimally by a family, certainly more than just family workers plus a few. A Worker Codetermination Corporation is a large business in which half of the Board of Directors are worker elected representatives, the representatives themselves being workers. A Regular Corporation is a large business in which the Board of Directors is not comprised of any worker representatives.
2. Redefine Taxes for our new redefined corporations. Family Businesses will pay 0%. Cooperatives will pay 10%. Small Businesses will pay 10% to 20%. Worker Codetermination Corporations will pay 20% to 30%. Regular Corporations will pay 30% to 40%.
3. Nationalize all necessary corporations such as those pertaining to anything dealing with natural resources, electricity, water, transportation, oil, etc.
4. Institute Family, Cooperative, and Small Business Grants.

Taxes

1. Abolish Sales Tax.
2. Abolish Property Tax.
3. Reform Income Tax to be based on wealth distributions. This meaning, the top 1% collectively owns 42% of the wealth, therefore, the 1% will collectively pay 42% of all the taxes. Base incomes on total Immediate Family Income (The total incomes of an adult, his parents, his siblings, wife, etc)
4. Redirect Cooperative Taxes and Small Business Taxes to localities. Corporations pay to the national government.

Foreign Policy

1. Decrease spending on Defense, enact mandatory military service for both young men and young women from 16 to 18, and periodically until age 56, to assist in local duties such as patrol, safety, etc. Not necessarily for war purposes.
2. The non conscripted active duty officers will then be put into service for purposes like border patrol and airport security, and international humanitarian aid.
3. Pull out of Afghanistan, redirect some funds to international humanitarian operations.

Domestic Policy

1. Legalize Marijuana
2. Decriminalize other drugs in favor of drug rehabilitation (Similar to Portugal)
3. Establish Universal Healthcare, forwarding Medicare and Medicaid funds towards Social Security
4. Raise the Social Security Tax Cap to include all income, and tax based on wealth distribution such as the Income Tax plan. Exempt high income earners from receiving Social Security benefits given that they are continuously receiving sufficient income from private plans and / or other sources. (Notice, I said exempt from receiving benefits, not exempt from paying for benefits) Encourage families to supplement Social Security benefits through the Family Income clause.
5. Reduce Retirement Age to 56
6. Recognize Same Sex Marriages
7. Lower Legal Age of Majority to 16
8. Abolish Alcohol Drinking Age, make it the responsibility to parents to raise children up with alcohol. Abolish Alcohol Purchasing Age, if people want to drink, they will find a way, get rid of the taboo, and there is no problem.
8. Abolish Tobacco Purchasing Age as well as Smoking Age. Increase Public Health Awareness, tax businesses that sell tobacco, not the purchasers.
9. Dismantle Industry Farms and return production of agricultural goods to farmers. Completely subsidize farmers so that food and agriculture goods are free at point of need, dismantle major grocery stores in favor of open air markets, institute delivery service for dairy, etc.


Education

1. Begin Education at Age 2, end at Age 16. In upper secondary school, ages 12 to 16, students will choose one of 4 courses. A Professional Course, A Vocational Course, An Artisan Course, and a Labor Course. Each course caters to students career and education desires. Doctors and Lawyers into the Professional Course, Businessmen and Deli Owners into the Vocational Course, Artists and Sculptors into the Artisan Course, the useless and people who "just want to live, man" into the Labor course.
2. Provide more specialized education throughout conscription.
3. Nationalize college education, provide free college education to Professional Course students, based on a 3-2-6 system. 3 Years for a Basic Degree, plus to more for a Master's Degree, plus 2 to 6 more years for PhD.
4. Establish Councils of Scholars at each University, that run the University. The Council of Scholars will elect a Magister to head each University until death or removal. A Magister must be a Scholar. To become a Scholar you must be appointed by a the Council of Scholars and recognized as being the most advanced in your discipline and academic study. Governance of public schools and universities will be by the Council of Magisters.

Transportation

1. Expand Public Transportation, National Monorail System for national transportation, and Vactrain System for transportation of goods.
2. Tax Emissions.
3. Designate portions of the highway where there are no Speed Limits

Other inquiries, and just post, and I will answer.

[Magmia]

I have constructed a new plan from my previous one:

Economic/Tax
- Abolish all free trade agreements
- Abolish the Federal Reserve
- Abolish all public labour unions
- Abolish income tax for those living below the poverty line
- Make outsourcing illegal and fine a company equal to the combined salary of all employees who were laid off due to outsourcing
- Reform Social Security by doing this: Put the money taken out of people's checks directly into a personal bank accout they set up. Also allow people to opt-out.
- Create a tax benefit for buying a hybrid or non-fuel car; this would make it cheaper to buy fuel efficiant cars (or cars that use no fuel), thereby reducing the demand, the price, the pollution, and U.S. dependence on oil rich countries that, generally speaking, hate us.
- People making $5 Million+ a year pay a 40% rate (they may already, but i'm not sure)
- Establish a national, centeralized bank
- Nationalize the Oil companys
- Invest in the development of hybrid and electric powered car technology
- Implement a 25% tarrif on the following nations: China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, 15% for Japan, 10% for India
- Invest in new/improving bridges and roads

Foreign
- Concentrate our forces in the Pacific and Eastern Europe; in other words keep Russia and China in their place
- End all foreign aid except to Israel
- Withdraw membership from the UN, WTO, and NATO
- Close all bases and withdraw all forces in Central (if any), South America and the Middle East
- Recongnize the Armenian Genocide
- Demand to Russia that they either pay the money they owe us or stop talking $h!t about us



Social
- Ban Gay Marriage by constitutional ammendment
- Ban Sex Ed before 10th grade.
- Legalize all abortions except those that are sex-selective
- Illegalize all recreational drugs by constitutional ammendment
- Legalize prostitution as long as brothels are run by the state.
- Lower the voting age to 16
- Lower the drinking age to 18 for those in the military.

More will be posted as I think them up

ADDED: Ban Porn by constitutional ammendment

[Tlaceceyaya]

I have constructed a new plan from my previous one:

Economic/Tax
- Abolish all free trade agreements
- Abolish the Federal Reserve
- Abolish all public labour unions
- Abolish income tax for those living below the poverty line
- Make outsourcing illegal and fine a company equal to the combined salary of all employees who were laid off due to outsourcing
- Reform Social Security by doing this: Put the money taken out of people's checks directly into a personal bank accout they set up. Also allow people to opt-out.
- Create a tax benefit for buying a hybrid or non-fuel car; this would make it cheaper to buy fuel efficiant cars (or cars that use no fuel), thereby reducing the demand, the price, the pollution, and U.S. dependence on oil rich countries that, generally speaking, hate us.
- People making $5 Million+ a year pay a 40% rate (they may already, but i'm not sure)
- Establish a national, centeralized bank
- Nationalize the Oil companys
- Invest in the development of hybrid and electric powered car technology
- Implement a 25% tarrif on the following nations: China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, 15% for Japan, 10% for India
- Invest in new/improving bridges and roads

Foreign
- Concentrate our forces in the Pacific and Eastern Europe; in other words keep Russia and China in their place
- End all foreign aid except to Israel
- Withdraw membership from the UN, WTO, and NATO
- Close all bases and withdraw all forces in Central (if any) South America and the Middle East
- Recongnize the Armenian Genocide
- Demand to Russia that they either pay the money they owe us or stop talking $h!t about us



Social
- Ban Gay Marriage by constitutional ammendment
- Ban Sex Ed before 10th grade.
- Legalize all abortions except those that are sex-selective
- Illegalize all recreational drugs by constitutional ammendment
- Legalize prostitution as long as brothels are run by the state.
- Lower the voting age to 16
- Lower the drinking age to 18 for those in the military.

More will be posted as I think them up

1: Why?
2: Why?
3: NO.
4: Yes.
5: A bit radical...
6: Okay.
7: Okay.
8: Okay.
9: Ok.
10: Ok.
11: Ok.
12: China could export to places other than the US if it was more profitable. Bad idea.
13: Okay.

14: Rather militaristic...
15: No.
16: No.
17: What about the places that genuinely need help?
18: Okay.
19: Why did you censor the word shit? Profanities are allowed if they aren't addressed at a person.

20: NO.
21: Why would you do that?
22: Okay.
23: No.
24: Okay.
25: My instincts say yes, but my understanding that most people are not like me says no.
26: No.

EDIT: The banning porn bit... No. Just no.

[Magmia]

I have constructed a new plan from my previous one:

Economic/Tax
- Abolish all free trade agreements
- Abolish the Federal Reserve
- Abolish all public labour unions
- Abolish income tax for those living below the poverty line
- Make outsourcing illegal and fine a company equal to the combined salary of all employees who were laid off due to outsourcing
- Reform Social Security by doing this: Put the money taken out of people's checks directly into a personal bank accout they set up. Also allow people to opt-out.
- Create a tax benefit for buying a hybrid or non-fuel car; this would make it cheaper to buy fuel efficiant cars (or cars that use no fuel), thereby reducing the demand, the price, the pollution, and U.S. dependence on oil rich countries that, generally speaking, hate us.
- People making $5 Million+ a year pay a 40% rate (they may already, but i'm not sure)
- Establish a national, centeralized bank
- Nationalize the Oil companys
- Invest in the development of hybrid and electric powered car technology
- Implement a 25% tarrif on the following nations: China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, 15% for Japan, 10% for India
- Invest in new/improving bridges and roads

Foreign
- Concentrate our forces in the Pacific and Eastern Europe; in other words keep Russia and China in their place
- End all foreign aid except to Israel
- Withdraw membership from the UN, WTO, and NATO
- Close all bases and withdraw all forces in Central (if any) South America and the Middle East
- Recongnize the Armenian Genocide
- Demand to Russia that they either pay the money they owe us or stop talking $h!t about us



Social
- Ban Gay Marriage by constitutional ammendment
- Ban Sex Ed before 10th grade.
- Legalize all abortions except those that are sex-selective
- Illegalize all recreational drugs by constitutional ammendment
- Legalize prostitution as long as brothels are run by the state.
- Lower the voting age to 16
- Lower the drinking age to 18 for those in the military.

More will be posted as I think them up

1: Why?
2: Why?
3: NO.
4: Yes.
5: A bit radical...
6: Okay.
7: Okay.
8: Okay.
9: Ok.
10: Ok.
11: Ok.
12: China could export to places other than the US if it was more profitable. Bad idea.
13: Okay.

14: Rather militaristic...
15: No.
16: No.
17: What about the places that genuinely need help?
18: Okay.
19: Why did you censor the word shit? Profanities are allowed if they aren't addressed at a person.

20: NO.
21: Why would you do that?
22: Okay.
23: No.
24: Okay.
25: My instincts say yes, but my understanding that most people are not like me says no.
26: No.

EDIT: The banning porn bit... No. Just no.

1. Free trade is a neo-liberal economic scheme to keep the the former colonies of the West in poverty IMHO. The only people that benefit from free trade is the companys' that exploit the resources of poorer nations.

2. The Fed Reserve was a terrible idea from the start IMHO. Their reckless actions have caused too much instability in the U.S. economy.

17. No foreign aid actually goes to the people that need it. Even the people in the countries that recieve the Foreign aid will tell you this

19. Oh ok. Didnt know

21. The sooner we put sex into the brains of the youth, the sooner they are more likely to do it. Not a good thing IMHO

[Tlaceceyaya]

1: Why?
2: Why?
3: NO.
4: Yes.
5: A bit radical...
6: Okay.
7: Okay.
8: Okay.
9: Ok.
10: Ok.
11: Ok.
12: China could export to places other than the US if it was more profitable. Bad idea.
13: Okay.

14: Rather militaristic...
15: No.
16: No.
17: What about the places that genuinely need help?
18: Okay.
19: Why did you censor the word shit? Profanities are allowed if they aren't addressed at a person.

20: NO.
21: Why would you do that?
22: Okay.
23: No.
24: Okay.
25: My instincts say yes, but my understanding that most people are not like me says no.
26: No.

EDIT: The banning porn bit... No. Just no.

1. Free trade is a neo-liberal economic scheme to keep the the former colonies of the West in poverty IMHO. The only people that benefit from free trade is the companys' that exploit the resources of poorer nations.

2. The Fed Reserve was a terrible idea from the start IMHO. Their reckless actions have caused too much instability in the U.S. economy.

17. No foreign aid actually goes to the people that need it. Even the people in the countries that recieve the Foreign aid will tell you this

19. Oh ok. Didnt know

21. The sooner we put sex into the brains of the youth, the sooner they are more likely to do it. Not a good thing IMHO

2: Alright.
17: If you had added something into it about redeploying help to those countries who do need it, then I would change my tune.
21: They never told us how to masturbate in school (At least, yet). People do not need to be taught how to do it in order to do it. It's instinctual. All that you gain from banning sex education is teen pregnancy and STIs.

[Magmia]

1. Replace the federal income tax with a requirement each state to pay the federal government 20% of GDP; the states can raise the money however they like.
2. Cut spending across the board by 10%.
3. Reinstitute universal conscription.
4. Establish a school voucher system.
5. Ban abortion, gay marriage, pornography, adultery and fornication.
6. Focus government resources on improving infrastructure.
7. Replace prisons with labor camps.
8. Allow oil/ natural gas drilling on federal lands; grant approval for keystone.
9. Pull out of Iraq, limit troop presence in Afghanistan.

1. I'm sorry, but thats a really bad idea IMHO
2. Austerity is not a good idea
3. HELL NO
4. Love this!
5. Gay marriage and porn I agree 100%, strongly disagree on abortion. And I think adultery and fornication, although undesirable, cannot be sucessfully banned
6. AMEN!
7. YEAH!!
8. NO!
9. Agree, although IMO we should pull out of afghanistan completely

[Magmia]

1. Free trade is a neo-liberal economic scheme to keep the the former colonies of the West in poverty IMHO. The only people that benefit from free trade is the companys' that exploit the resources of poorer nations.

2. The Fed Reserve was a terrible idea from the start IMHO. Their reckless actions have caused too much instability in the U.S. economy.

17. No foreign aid actually goes to the people that need it. Even the people in the countries that recieve the Foreign aid will tell you this

19. Oh ok. Didnt know

21. The sooner we put sex into the brains of the youth, the sooner they are more likely to do it. Not a good thing IMHO

2: Alright.
17: If you had added something into it about redeploying help to those countries who do need it, then I would change my tune.
21: They never told us how to masturbate in school (At least, yet). People do not need to be taught how to do it in order to do it. It's instinctual. All that you gain from banning sex education is teen pregnancy and STIs.

17. Of course I would support some small amount, but that money would need to go directly to the people, not some corrupt Gov
21. Well masturbation is not an issue. I just don't like the idea of teaching someone any younger than 14-15 how to have sex. I heard somewhere that 12 yr olds were being taught sex ed, and that they were actually handing out condoms at a prom! Thats the kind of shit that pisses me off! It may not be logical per say, but its just a strong principle I have.

[Tlaceceyaya]

2: Alright.
17: If you had added something into it about redeploying help to those countries who do need it, then I would change my tune.
21: They never told us how to masturbate in school (At least, yet). People do not need to be taught how to do it in order to do it. It's instinctual. All that you gain from banning sex education is teen pregnancy and STIs.

17. Of course I would support some small amount, but that money would need to go directly to the people, not some corrupt Gov
21. Well masturbation is not an issue. I just don't like the idea of teaching someone any younger than 14-15 how to have sex. I heard somewhere that 12 yr olds were being taught sex ed, and that they were actually handing out condoms at a prom! Thats the kind of shit that pisses me off! It may not be logical per say, but its just a strong principle I have.

21: Prom? 12 years old?

[Magmia]

17. Of course I would support some small amount, but that money would need to go directly to the people, not some corrupt Gov
21. Well masturbation is not an issue. I just don't like the idea of teaching someone any younger than 14-15 how to have sex. I heard somewhere that 12 yr olds were being taught sex ed, and that they were actually handing out condoms at a prom! Thats the kind of shit that pisses me off! It may not be logical per say, but its just a strong principle I have.

21: Prom? 12 years old?

Does that sound crazy to you too or are you saying I'm over reacting?

[Divair]

1. Replace the federal income tax with a requirement each state to pay the federal government 20% of GDP; the states can raise the money however they like.
2. Cut spending across the board by 10%.
3. Reinstitute universal conscription.
4. Establish a school voucher system.
5. Ban abortion, gay marriage, pornography, adultery and fornication.
6. Focus government resources on improving infrastructure.
7. Replace prisons with labor camps.
8. Allow oil/ natural gas drilling on federal lands; grant approval for keystone.
9. Pull out of Iraq, limit troop presence in Afghanistan.

1. Holy shit, no. The tax system is already complex enough.
2. No. Austerity = bad.
3. No. Authoritarianism = bad.
4. No. School voucher systems don't work.
5. No. Talk about fascist authoritarianism.
6. Quite possibly the only thing I agree with.
7. No.
8. Hell fucking no.
9. Iraq is already over. Afghanistan requires a full pull out.


On a scale of 1 to 10 I give you a "Fuck no"

[Tlaceceyaya]

21: Prom? 12 years old?

Does that sound crazy to you too or are you saying I'm over reacting?

I don't know enough details to make up my mind. Even if it does happen, should we get rid of all federal funding for education because fundies are trying to replace scientific facts with religious dogma?

[Divair]

21: Prom? 12 years old?

Does that sound crazy to you too or are you saying I'm over reacting?

12 year olds don't have prom. Minimum age is usually 16 or 17, not 12.

[Divair]

I have constructed a new plan from my previous one:

Economic/Tax
- Abolish all free trade agreements
- Abolish the Federal Reserve
- Abolish all public labour unions
- Abolish income tax for those living below the poverty line
- Make outsourcing illegal and fine a company equal to the combined salary of all employees who were laid off due to outsourcing
- Reform Social Security by doing this: Put the money taken out of people's checks directly into a personal bank accout they set up. Also allow people to opt-out.
- Create a tax benefit for buying a hybrid or non-fuel car; this would make it cheaper to buy fuel efficiant cars (or cars that use no fuel), thereby reducing the demand, the price, the pollution, and U.S. dependence on oil rich countries that, generally speaking, hate us.
- People making $5 Million+ a year pay a 40% rate (they may already, but i'm not sure)
- Establish a national, centeralized bank
- Nationalize the Oil companys
- Invest in the development of hybrid and electric powered car technology
- Implement a 25% tarrif on the following nations: China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, 15% for Japan, 10% for India
- Invest in new/improving bridges and roads

Foreign
- Concentrate our forces in the Pacific and Eastern Europe; in other words keep Russia and China in their place
- End all foreign aid except to Israel
- Withdraw membership from the UN, WTO, and NATO
- Close all bases and withdraw all forces in Central (if any), South America and the Middle East
- Recongnize the Armenian Genocide
- Demand to Russia that they either pay the money they owe us or stop talking $h!t about us



Social
- Ban Gay Marriage by constitutional ammendment
- Ban Sex Ed before 10th grade.
- Legalize all abortions except those that are sex-selective
- Illegalize all recreational drugs by constitutional ammendment
- Legalize prostitution as long as brothels are run by the state.
- Lower the voting age to 16
- Lower the drinking age to 18 for those in the military.

More will be posted as I think them up

ADDED: Ban Porn by constitutional ammendment

So much wrong with this plan it makes me cry.

[Magmia]

Does that sound crazy to you too or are you saying I'm over reacting?

I don't know enough details to make up my mind. Even if it does happen, should we get rid of all federal funding for education because fundies are trying to replace scientific facts with religious dogma?

Religious dogma? Well I won't speak for the majority of people, but for me, it has nothing to do with religion. It just seems very disturbing to be almost pushing the youth into having sex. Even if I became an atheist, I would still have a problem with it.

[Magmia]

Does that sound crazy to you too or are you saying I'm over reacting?

12 year olds don't have prom. Minimum age is usually 16 or 17, not 12.

2 seperate statements. I was not saying 12 year olds have prom

[Magmia]

I have constructed a new plan from my previous one:

Economic/Tax
- Abolish all free trade agreements
- Abolish the Federal Reserve
- Abolish all public labour unions
- Abolish income tax for those living below the poverty line
- Make outsourcing illegal and fine a company equal to the combined salary of all employees who were laid off due to outsourcing
- Reform Social Security by doing this: Put the money taken out of people's checks directly into a personal bank accout they set up. Also allow people to opt-out.
- Create a tax benefit for buying a hybrid or non-fuel car; this would make it cheaper to buy fuel efficiant cars (or cars that use no fuel), thereby reducing the demand, the price, the pollution, and U.S. dependence on oil rich countries that, generally speaking, hate us.
- People making $5 Million+ a year pay a 40% rate (they may already, but i'm not sure)
- Establish a national, centeralized bank
- Nationalize the Oil companys
- Invest in the development of hybrid and electric powered car technology
- Implement a 25% tarrif on the following nations: China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, 15% for Japan, 10% for India
- Invest in new/improving bridges and roads

Foreign
- Concentrate our forces in the Pacific and Eastern Europe; in other words keep Russia and China in their place
- End all foreign aid except to Israel
- Withdraw membership from the UN, WTO, and NATO
- Close all bases and withdraw all forces in Central (if any), South America and the Middle East
- Recongnize the Armenian Genocide
- Demand to Russia that they either pay the money they owe us or stop talking $h!t about us



Social
- Ban Gay Marriage by constitutional ammendment
- Ban Sex Ed before 10th grade.
- Legalize all abortions except those that are sex-selective
- Illegalize all recreational drugs by constitutional ammendment
- Legalize prostitution as long as brothels are run by the state.
- Lower the voting age to 16
- Lower the drinking age to 18 for those in the military.

More will be posted as I think them up

ADDED: Ban Porn by constitutional ammendment

So much wrong with this plan it makes me cry.

Is there anything you like about it?

[Divair]

12 year olds don't have prom. Minimum age is usually 16 or 17, not 12.

2 seperate statements. I was not saying 12 year olds have prom

Then just an over-reaction. Kids have sex, sex ed or no sex ed. At least by handing out condoms and teaching sex ed you prevent pregnancies and STD's. It's like trying to ban alcohol or tobacco. It doesn't work. Making it as safe as possible, however, would help the situation.

[Divair]

So much wrong with this plan it makes me cry.

Is there anything you like about it?

I guess no taxes for those under poverty is kinda nice. Hybrid + electric investment is good. Infrastructure investment is a must. Other than that, no.

[Magmia]

2 seperate statements. I was not saying 12 year olds have prom

Then just an over-reaction. Kids have sex, sex ed or no sex ed. At least by handing out condoms and teaching sex ed you prevent pregnancies and STD's. It's like trying to ban alcohol or tobacco. It doesn't work. Making it as safe as possible, however, would help the situation.

Alright. To prevent things from getting off topic, I'm gonna put the kabosh on this debate

[Utopia FTW]

[Divair]

Edit: Post is gone. No need for this one.

[Anitgrum]

Prompted by the thread, "Your plan for America", I have decided to start this thread to openly explain my plans for the United States of America, and for the ever so pleasing criticisms of NSers. So, please, after reading my plans, completely critique every bit of what I believe.

Economic Policy

1. Redefine types of corporations. We shall redefine corporations as either a Family Business, a Cooperative, a Small Business, a Worker Codetermination Corporation, or a Regular Corporation. A Family Business is well, of course, a business registered as having been own and operated by a family and its members. A Cooperative, a business in which all workers are also owners in equal proportion. A Small Business, a business not owned or operated exclusively or minimally by a family, certainly more than just family workers plus a few. A Worker Codetermination Corporation is a large business in which half of the Board of Directors are worker elected representatives, the representatives themselves being workers. A Regular Corporation is a large business in which the Board of Directors is not comprised of any worker representatives.

2. Redefine Taxes for our new redefined corporations. Family Businesses will pay 0%. Cooperatives will pay 10%. Small Businesses will pay 10% to 20%. Worker Codetermination Corporations will pay 20% to 30%. Regular Corporations will pay 30% to 40%.
I fail to see why corporations worth half a billion dollars like Coorstek should be taxed nothing just because it been run by the Coors family for 92 years while other company that worth the same amount are taxed more. Corporations should be taxed based on their income rather on who owns them or how they are run.

3. Nationalize all necessary corporations such as those pertaining to anything dealing with natural resources, electricity, water, transportation, oil, etc. No. Although companies providing utilities and oil should be tightly regulated to prevent abuse.


4. Institute Family, Cooperative, and Small Business Grants. I am quite partial to giving grants to small business. However why should massive multinational corporation like Coorstek and Mondragon receive grants by the government because they are run by a family or are a cooperative

Taxes

1. Abolish Sales Tax. It goes against the tenth amendment and would deprive state and local government a major source of their funding.
2. Abolish Property Tax. see above
3. Reform Income Tax to be based on wealth distributions. This meaning, the top 1% collectively owns 42% of the wealth, therefore, the 1% will collectively pay 42% of all the taxes. Base incomes on total Immediate Family Income (The total incomes of an adult, his parents, his siblings, wife, etc) I like the idea of taxing the top income earner forty two percent But what about everyone else
4. Redirect Cooperative Taxes and Small Business Taxes to localities. Corporations pay to the national government.Again this volatiles the tenth amendment. Also the money that is provided isn't enough to support the states. Considering they can't raise revenue from sales or property tax. They used to get some money from corporation taxes but now they only get money form corporation that aren't family owned Cooperative, a Small Business, or a Worker Codetermination Corporation. It even worse for City and County government 99% percent of their funding are from property and sale tax. To stay afloat they will have to get grants form the state government and institute an income tax. They will lose much of their autonomy now that they are beholden to the Sate government for a portion of their funding. While state income taxes will have to significantly increase or be created for states that don't have one for them to actually function.

Foreign Policy

1. Decrease spending on Defense, enact mandatory military service for both young men and young women from 16 to 18, and periodically until age 56, to assist in local duties such as patrol, safety, etc. Not necessarily for war purposes. How much do you plan to decrease and where do you plan to slash spending. A country should only institute a draft if they are in a state of war will be in a state or war, or have belligerent neighbors. Conscripting hundreds of millions of people defeats the purpose of any spending cuts to the military. Sixteen to join the military seem too young. Also this is should be under domestic policy.
2. The non conscripted active duty officers will then be put into service for purposes like border patrol and airport security, and international humanitarian aid. Seems like a good idea.

3. Pull out of Afghanistan, redirect some funds to international humanitarian operations. No the U.S should stick to timeline to pull out by 2014. In the meantime they should focuses on reorganize the Afghan government into a Confederacy split along tribal lines and improving the country's infrastructure and medical care. When they are fighting the Taliban.

Domestic Policy

1. Legalize Marijuana Agreed
2. Decriminalize other drugs in favor of drug rehabilitation (Similar to Portugal) Agreed
3. Establish Universal Healthcare, forwarding Medicare and Medicaid funds towards Social Security I agree at that the U.S should have some form of Universal Healthcare but how will you fund it if you all Medicaid and Medicare funding are moved over to Social Security?
4. Raise the Social Security Tax Cap to include all income, and tax based on wealth distribution such as the Income Tax plan. Exempt high income earners from receiving Social Security benefits given that they are continuously receiving sufficient income from private plans and / or other sources. (Notice, I said exempt from receiving benefits, not exempt from paying for benefits) Encourage families to supplement Social Security benefits through the Family Income clause. Although I do agree that payrolls taxes should be made progressive taxing all income to fund it seem a tad excessive. Especially now that thanks to you shifting all revenue form Medicare/Medicate Social Security now makes up some forty three percent of the budget. Also the government requires that employers deduct a certain amount of their employee's paycheck and put it into a pension fund as well as put in some of their own money. The employee can then give it a investment firm that will invest their money in the stock market.
5. Reduce Retirement Age to 56 No the retirement age should be kept at it current age
6. Recognize Same Sex Marriages agreed
7. Lower Legal Age of Majority to 16 Why it perfectly fine at 18.
8. Abolish Alcohol Drinking Age, make it the responsibility to parents to raise children up with alcohol. Abolish Alcohol Purchasing Age, if people want to drink, they will find a way, get rid of the taboo, and there is no problem. No.
8. Abolish Tobacco Purchasing Age as well as Smoking Age. Increase Public Health Awareness, tax businesses that sell tobacco, not the purchasers. No they should both be taxed. And the extra revenue raise form the Tobacco companies should be used to help fund healthcare.
9. Dismantle Industry Farms and return production of agricultural goods to farmers. Completely subsidize farmers so that food and agriculture goods are free at point of need, dismantle major grocery stores in favor of open air markets, institute delivery service for dairy, etc. Dismantling commercial farming enterprises will make milk, meat, fruits, and certain vegetables scarce. Not to mention put a lot people out of work that are far poorer the the majority of the population. Mandating the destruction of grocery stores and replacing them with open air market are horrible idea. First because it is out door more pest will destroy the produce then if it were indoor. Second none of the produce is refrigerated a go portion of it will rot before anyone gets to eat it. Third having any open air markets will be absolutely miserable for people come fall and winter when it starts to snow. A portion of the produce will be lost due to freezer burn.

Ug I falling asleep I will give more feedback when I have had a good nights sleep.