Your plan for America?

[Kaninov]

Fuck America, i'm moving to Europe.

[Divair]

Fuck America, i'm moving to Europe.

Canada's a really good option, too!

[Freiheit Reich]

Fuck America, i'm moving to Europe.

Canada's a really good option, too!

I used to think those 2 places were great but they are letting in too many "questionsble" immigrants practicing a hateful religion. Youtube is filled with many videos discussing this, also check out the Danish People's Party and Geert Wilders about what is happening in Europe. Malmo, Sweden is already having a lot of issues. America is also letting too many dangerous immigrants in from countries that practice terrorism. Europe will have a very deadly civil war in the next 20 years.

On a side note: America has more free toilets and free water fountains than Europe (another thing disappointing about Europe). America is more humane than many Europeans think

[Hittanryan]

Canada's a really good option, too!

I used to think those 2 places were great but they are letting in too many "questionsble" immigrants practicing a hateful religion. Youtube is filled with many videos discussing this, also check out the Danish People's Party and Geert Wilders about what is happening in Europe. Malmo, Sweden is already having a lot of issues. America is also letting too many dangerous immigrants in from countries that practice terrorism. Europe will have a very deadly civil war in the next 20 years.

On a side note: America has more free toilets and free water fountains than Europe (another thing disappointing about Europe). America is more humane than many Europeans think

You're not big on the whole reality thing, are you?

[Freiheit Reich]

I used to think those 2 places were great but they are letting in too many "questionsble" immigrants practicing a hateful religion. Youtube is filled with many videos discussing this, also check out the Danish People's Party and Geert Wilders about what is happening in Europe. Malmo, Sweden is already having a lot of issues. America is also letting too many dangerous immigrants in from countries that practice terrorism. Europe will have a very deadly civil war in the next 20 years.

On a side note: America has more free toilets and free water fountains than Europe (another thing disappointing about Europe). America is more humane than many Europeans think

You're not big on the whole reality thing, are you?

This is reality, look at the words on the signs. Do these immigrants appreciate being welcomed into the UK? This is their version of gratitude! They should have been shot with rubber bullets and pepper sprayed in the face and then deported. You give them friendship and they spit in your face.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/muslim-protest-london.shtml

Also from Malmo, Sweden. Jews pressured to leave because their friendly Muslim neighbors threaten them. That is friendship?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rimes.html

This is reality, these articles are not fake.

[DaWoad]

You're not big on the whole reality thing, are you?

This is reality, look at the words on the signs. Do these immigrants appreciate being welcomed into the UK? This is their version of gratitude! They should have been shot with rubber bullets and pepper sprayed in the face and then deported. You give them friendship and they spit in your face.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/muslim-protest-london.shtml

Also from Malmo, Sweden. Jews pressured to leave because their friendly Muslim neighbors threaten them. That is friendship?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rimes.html

This is reality, these articles are not fake.

take a look at canada, lots of immigration (more, percapita than either gb or america last tiem I checked) and yet very few issues. Care to know why? Because there's less of an ingrained culture here of blaiming every last one of our problems on immigrants. As it turns out, not prejudging entire groups for your own fuckups helps them feel more a part of your nation and helps to aleviate many of the classic "immigrant issues", who knew?

[Divair]

This is reality, look at the words on the signs. Do these immigrants appreciate being welcomed into the UK? This is their version of gratitude! They should have been shot with rubber bullets and pepper sprayed in the face and then deported. You give them friendship and they spit in your face.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/muslim-protest-london.shtml

Also from Malmo, Sweden. Jews pressured to leave because their friendly Muslim neighbors threaten them. That is friendship?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rimes.html

This is reality, these articles are not fake.

take a look at canada, lots of immigration (more, percapita than either gb or america last tiem I checked) and yet very few issues. Care to know why? Because there's less of an ingrained culture here of blaiming every last one of our problems on immigrants. As it turns out, not prejudging entire groups for your own fuckups helps them feel more a part of your nation and helps to aleviate many of the classic "immigrant issues", who knew?

Indeed.

Take a look at British Columbia specifically. The amount of immigrants from China, Korea, and Japan is increasing every year. Yet, they're doing better than ever.

Solution: Teach people not to be dicks to each other. Canada is quite good at this (see: stereotype of Canadians)

[Freiheit Reich]

take a look at canada, lots of immigration (more, percapita than either gb or america last tiem I checked) and yet very few issues. Care to know why? Because there's less of an ingrained culture here of blaiming every last one of our problems on immigrants. As it turns out, not prejudging entire groups for your own fuckups helps them feel more a part of your nation and helps to aleviate many of the classic "immigrant issues", who knew?

Indeed.

Take a look at British Columbia specifically. The amount of immigrants from China, Korea, and Japan is increasing every year. Yet, they're doing better than ever.

Solution: Teach people not to be dicks to each other. Canada is quite good at this (see: stereotype of Canadians)

I found a few cases, there are a few internet sites keeping track of issues regarding Muslims around the world. The mainstream media wants us to think all is good and only Christians and atheists commit crimes. Muslims are a tiny fraction of Canadian population, give it 10 years when they reach 5% of the population. Only places like China keep their terrorism in check (look up China Xinjiang-China does not play games).

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/canad ... relig.html

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... gogue.html

http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2 ... -aqsa.html

I don't blame all immigrants. Japan and India have sent many great immigrants to the USA. The wealthier educated immigrants have thrived in the USA.

[Hittanryan]

Indeed.

Take a look at British Columbia specifically. The amount of immigrants from China, Korea, and Japan is increasing every year. Yet, they're doing better than ever.

Solution: Teach people not to be dicks to each other. Canada is quite good at this (see: stereotype of Canadians)

I found a few cases, there are a few internet sites keeping track of issues regarding Muslims around the world. The mainstream media wants us to think all is good and only Christians and atheists commit crimes. Muslims are a tiny fraction of Canadian population, give it 10 years when they reach 5% of the population. Only places like China keep their terrorism in check (look up China Xinjiang-China does not play games).

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/canad ... relig.html

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... gogue.html

http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2 ... -aqsa.html

I don't blame all immigrants. Japan and India have sent many great immigrants to the USA. The wealthier educated immigrants have thrived in the USA.

I'm sorry, I'm having an awful hard time hearing you over that axe you keep grinding.

[Secruss]

Ron Paul's is pretty good.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/r ... e-america/

In case of implosion of economy, I'll stay for the benefit of "Told you so."

[Daihan]

I would move to an independent Vermont Republic. But that ain't happening.

[Hittanryan]

Ron Paul's is pretty good.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/r ... e-america/

In case of implosion of economy, I'll stay for the benefit of "Told you so."

And what did Ron Paul do to fix it? Even a broken clock's right twice a day.

I'll pass on the authoritarian state governments and economic collapse, thank you very much.

[Camthonland]

1. Get rid of Obamacare and implement a genuine universal healthcare system.
2. Return all unconstitutional federal powers back to the states.
3. Implement a flat tax.
4. Deport all illegal immigrants.

[Shnercropolis]

Economic policy:
Give corporations incentives for making new jobs. For instance, $(# of new employees*average employee monthly pay)=incentive for the year. Naturally You couldn't punish corporations for firing employees, but positive reinforcement is more effective than negative. Raise taxes by 2% in every category to strike equilibrium and help solve debt problems.

Budgeting
30% decrease in military payroll budget, 10% increase in military research and training budgets, along with a 1% decrease in overall military budget every year. Leave education and environment budgets alone. Give NASA whatever funding they need. Allocate any extra money 50% into the treasury, 50% to the debt fund.

Social policy
This is where it gets crazy.
1) Abolish political parties
2) gracefully stop all wars, unless a certain nation is a direct threat to the United State's security
3) Ban all laws relating to same-sex marriage/civil unions, abortion, and idiots.

[Zeppy]

tax all economic plans for america.

then all your economic plans would be useful.

[Socialdemokraterne]

Yes, Denmark is high on the list and they have some things going for them like an anti-corrupt business atmosphere. However, the site mentioned that Denmark is losing ground and points out where they can make improvements. How many wealthy foreigners are moving there from other countries seeking tax relief? Singapore and Hong Kong were higher on this list for a reason. Many countries have corrupt governments where you have to bribe agencies to grease the wheels or face miles of red tape. Denmark and many developed countries don't have these issues yet (although lobbyists are too common in the USA).

Oh, Denmark's got quite a bit more than low levels of corruption going for it. Their "losing ground" is a mere 2.4 point reduction in their economic freedom index score, a piddling 3% reduction. Let's look at the source I put out again, shall we? I think you'll find that the fundamentals of the Danish economy are actually fairly solid, even according to the Heritage Foundation's analysis.

Denmark’s economic freedom score is 76.2, making its economy the 11th freest in the 2012 Index. Its overall score is 2.4 points lower than last year, reflecting considerable deterioration in public finance management. Denmark is ranked 3rd out of 43 countries in the Europe region, and while its overall score remains well above average, the country has dropped out of the top 10 in the rankings.

Denmark’s foundations of economic freedom are solid. The judicial system, independent and free of corruption, provides strong protection of property rights. Lower scores in fiscal freedom and government spending, already far below world averages, indicate further weakening of respect for the principle of limited government. Although the corporate tax rate is competitive, the overall tax burden remains heavy. Government spending still accounts for over half of GDP.

With its economy open to global trade and investment, Denmark benefits from high degrees of business freedom, investment freedom, and financial freedom. The overall regulatory environment, transparent and efficient, encourages entrepreneurial activity. The banking sector has been under stress but remains guided by sensible regulations. Monetary stability is well maintained, and inflationary pressures are under control.

Let's review. Denmark, according to the Heritage Foundation, has the following positive characteristics:

-The 11th highest economic freedom score of all countries surveyed, which means they only just barely left the top ten and still retained a score well above average
-An independent, corruption-free judiciary that protects property rights strongly
-A competitive corporate tax rate
-Open markets for trade and investment
-A transparent, efficient regulatory environment which, in the Heritage Foundation's own words, encourages entrepreneurial activity
-A neatly regulated banking sector (this could be considered a repeat of the previous point, to be honest)
-Monetary stability
-Well controlled inflationary pressures

Denmark, according to the Heritage Foundation, has the following negative characteristics:

-It fell out of the top ten for overall score
-Low scores in "fiscal freedom" and "government spending", both of which are going to be limited in a society that offers a benefits package as expansive as the Danes have
-A heavy tax burden (which is actually just repeating the above point on "fiscal freedom" and may be explained in much the same way)
-High government spending (they're just repeating themselves again, and once again this can be explained by the expansive benefits)
-A stressed banking sector (considering the condition of the country's neighboring economies it would be foolhardy to suggest that this is a problem exclusively caused by Danish governmental policy, and in fact Heritage claims the opposite by saying that Danish banking regulations are sensible)
-A reduction in the quality of public finance management

Final Result:

I count, after subtracting the points which are just repeats, a score of 7 good things to 4 bad things that Heritage Foundation had to say about Denmark's system. And of those bad things it had to say about the system, exactly two had anything to do with the country's economic fundamentals (a stressed banking sector and a reduction in the quality of public finance management). One is hardly the fault of the Danish government, the other is a point I have to take across the chin.

So the final score is actually 6 to 1, good's victory (the Heritage freedom index score has nothing to do with Danish economic fundamentals in and of itself, and so it doesn't matter that the Danes retained the number 11 slot and have an above average score).

Commentary:

It seems to me that Denmark has a system which people should be flocking to emulate, hence my proposition of its enactment in the USA. After all, they're a society with one of the world's most expansive social safety nets and yet their economy is far from being in the toilet! Who doesn't love being able to have their cake and eat it too?

Those things that Heritage suggested could use "improvement" include cutting taxes and reducing government spending, factors which clearly (by Heritage's own analysis) have precisely no net negative effects on the country's overall economic performance. After all, they've a sensibly regulated system which strongly protects private property and encourages entrepreneurship (on top of allowing open trade to grow) and which bears reasonable control of inflationary pressures and isn't suffering a currency crisis. What the hell more do you want? What more could you want?

[Freiheit Reich]

Yes, Denmark is high on the list and they have some things going for them like an anti-corrupt business atmosphere. However, the site mentioned that Denmark is losing ground and points out where they can make improvements. How many wealthy foreigners are moving there from other countries seeking tax relief? Singapore and Hong Kong were higher on this list for a reason. Many countries have corrupt governments where you have to bribe agencies to grease the wheels or face miles of red tape. Denmark and many developed countries don't have these issues yet (although lobbyists are too common in the USA).

Oh, Denmark's got quite a bit more than low levels of corruption going for it. Their "losing ground" is a mere 2.4 point reduction in their economic freedom index score, a piddling 3% reduction. Let's look at the source I put out again, shall we? I think you'll find that the fundamentals of the Danish economy are actually fairly solid, even according to the Heritage Foundation's analysis.

Denmark’s economic freedom score is 76.2, making its economy the 11th freest in the 2012 Index. Its overall score is 2.4 points lower than last year, reflecting considerable deterioration in public finance management. Denmark is ranked 3rd out of 43 countries in the Europe region, and while its overall score remains well above average, the country has dropped out of the top 10 in the rankings.

Denmark’s foundations of economic freedom are solid. The judicial system, independent and free of corruption, provides strong protection of property rights. Lower scores in fiscal freedom and government spending, already far below world averages, indicate further weakening of respect for the principle of limited government. Although the corporate tax rate is competitive, the overall tax burden remains heavy. Government spending still accounts for over half of GDP.

With its economy open to global trade and investment, Denmark benefits from high degrees of business freedom, investment freedom, and financial freedom. The overall regulatory environment, transparent and efficient, encourages entrepreneurial activity. The banking sector has been under stress but remains guided by sensible regulations. Monetary stability is well maintained, and inflationary pressures are under control.

Let's review. Denmark, according to the Heritage Foundation, has the following positive characteristics:

-The 11th highest economic freedom score of all countries surveyed, which means they only just barely left the top ten and still retained a score well above average
-An independent, corruption-free judiciary that protects property rights strongly
-A competitive corporate tax rate
-Open markets for trade and investment
-A transparent, efficient regulatory environment which, in the Heritage Foundation's own words, encourages entrepreneurial activity
-A neatly regulated banking sector (this could be considered a repeat of the previous point, to be honest)
-Monetary stability
-Well controlled inflationary pressures

Denmark, according to the Heritage Foundation, has the following negative characteristics:

-It fell out of the top ten for overall score
-Low scores in "fiscal freedom" and "government spending", both of which are going to be limited in a society that offers a benefits package as expansive as the Danes have
-A heavy tax burden (which is actually just repeating the above point on "fiscal freedom" and may be explained in much the same way)
-High government spending (they're just repeating themselves again, and once again this can be explained by the expansive benefits)
-A stressed banking sector (considering the condition of the country's neighboring economies it would be foolhardy to suggest that this is a problem exclusively caused by Danish governmental policy, and in fact Heritage claims the opposite by saying that Danish banking regulations are sensible)
-A reduction in the quality of public finance management

Final Result:

I count, after subtracting the points which are just repeats, a score of 7 good things to 4 bad things that Heritage Foundation had to say about Denmark's system. And of those bad things it had to say about the system, exactly two had anything to do with the country's economic fundamentals (a stressed banking sector and a reduction in the quality of public finance management). One is hardly the fault of the Danish government, the other is a point I have to take across the chin.

So the final score is actually 6 to 1, good's victory (the Heritage freedom index score has nothing to do with Danish economic fundamentals in and of itself, and so it doesn't matter that the Danes retained the number 11 slot and have an above average score).

Commentary:

It seems to me that Denmark has a system which people should be flocking to emulate, hence my proposition of its enactment in the USA. After all, they're a society with one of the world's most expansive social safety nets and yet their economy is far from being in the toilet! Who doesn't love being able to have their cake and eat it too?

Those things that Heritage suggested could use "improvement" include cutting taxes and reducing government spending, factors which clearly (by Heritage's own analysis) have precisely no net negative effects on the country's overall economic performance. After all, they've a sensibly regulated system which strongly protects private property and encourages entrepreneurship (on top of allowing open trade to grow) and which bears reasonable control of inflationary pressures and isn't suffering a currency crisis. What the hell more do you want? What more could you want?

I will admit Denmark has done an excellent job and probably the best job possible (considering their generous welfare). What may hurt Denmark in the future is that many companies are freely willing to move to places where wages and regulations are lower. China workers are less productive but you can hire 3 of them for much cheaper than 1 Dane. International trade is helping many of the poorer countries (that embrace some free market policies like China) but it hurts the wealthy places like the USA and western Europe. The only way to compete in the future with China is to decrease certain regulations. I am unsure about Denmark but America has suffered massive job loss due to it being easier to outsource jobs overseas (look at IT jobs going to India). Mexico is right across the border and offers a very cheap source of production.

It seems most Danes accept the tradeoff of good social welfare for higher taxes. This will be a very tough sell for America though. The high crime rates in poor neighborhoods make people less likely to want to help the poor. The USA is divided more heavily divided on financial class than race. People usually flee their poor neighborhood when they can instead of helping it become better. This probably happens less in Denmark but I am unsure. Another advantage is Denmark is surrounded by wealthy neighbors maimg it harder to outsource jobs.

[Nuva Sudan]

allow the South and South West to become Independent

reorder Middle North America along the line of a European like Union with the 2 new Ethnocentric Independent states as equal partners with the consolidated US of A [Mid West Great lakes, Mid Atlantic, New England]

[Socialdemokraterne]

What may hurt Denmark in the future is that many companies are freely willing to move to places where wages and regulations are lower. China workers are less productive but you can hire 3 of them for much cheaper than 1 Dane. International trade is helping many of the poorer countries (that embrace some free market policies like China) but it hurts the wealthy places like the USA and western Europe.

Believe you me, as an advocate of a strong labor movement I'm more than familiar with the issue of outsourcing and am fully prepared to acknowledge the problems it can create (both for the country losing jobs and the country those jobs are going to).

The only way to compete in the future with China is to decrease certain regulations. I am unsure about Denmark but America has suffered massive job loss due to it being easier to outsource jobs overseas (look at IT jobs going to India). Mexico is right across the border and offers a very cheap source of production.

The regulations in the first world that you would have to cut in order to compete with the current environment in developing world labor pools (such as Vietnam and Mexico) would be environmental protections, worker protections, production safety regulations, things that it's a terrible idea to eliminate because they're directly responsible for the increased standard of living we enjoy. Unless you're prepared to tell the US labor pool that they should accept a decline in their pay, safety, and collective bargaining power, and that they should accept an indefinite increase in their hours alongside these things in order to burgeon competitiveness with labor pools such as China and Mexico, I suggest you seek an alternative plan.

Because I'm here to tell you, that proposal is probably not going to be very popular among your country's employees (though it may be wildly popular among your employers). We already know what employers will do in the absence of sensible economic regulations (or at least the power to enforce them) and an influential organized labor movement. We only have to look at the condition of workers in places like Mexico, China, and Vietnam to see that future, and it is not what we've been promised by the Laissez-Faire crowd. Those with greater resources and capital swoop in, take advantage of peoples' poverty and desperation to establish inequitable labor contracts, and laborers suffer while investors thrive. And rather than driving things upward, the introduction of additional firms with capital and resources seems to keep the landscape fairly flat since the people actually consuming the products (and therefore paying the bills) are too far removed from the abuses to be aware of them or to care about them. Competing firms certainly exist in the Chinese labor market, and yet somehow Apple keeps finding employees and racking up profits in spite of its labor abuses. That should tell you something about market forces' ability to sort out such things by themselves. Developing countries have been perfect laboratories in which to test the invisible hand's power, and we have found that the invisible hand's muscles aren't as strong as some may wish to believe. Betting on the invisible hand alone is foolish, and the record shows that.

My proposal would be to spread the influence of trade unionism into the areas where patent abuses are being committed (one need only look at Nike and Apple to understand that abuses are happening) and to provide countries that our firms are taking advantage of the tools and resources to implement and enforce regulations of their own. We should also invest in their domestic economy so that first world firms actually have viable domestic competitors. In other words, my proposal is to raise up the developing economies of the world rather than drag down the developed countries to more closely resemble the developing countries.

It seems most Danes accept the tradeoff of good social welfare for higher taxes. This will be a very tough sell for America though. The high crime rates in poor neighborhoods make people less likely to want to help the poor. The USA is divided more heavily divided on financial class than race. People usually flee their poor neighborhood when they can instead of helping it become better.

You've hit on some solid points here. The Danish system would indeed be a bit of a tough sell considering certain cultural and structural facts about the USA. Long response is long, but I'll analyze this issue fairly thoroughly for you and provide my objectives/solutions.

Cultural Elements of Interest
For example, the US has as part of its culture a strong sense of individualism and a near worship of total self-sufficiency as an individual. Having to rely on one's neighbors is perceived as a weakness, and therefore calls to expand neighbors' collective reliance upon one another are perceived by many as calls to weaken US citizens' aspirational drives. In a word, they're afraid that a networked system such as the Danish one will make people lazy. And the obsession with self-sufficiency is certainly problematic for calls to implement things such as universal healthcare and universal tertiary education. My job as a Social Democrat is to try to shift the USA's culture in a different direction, to combat this obsession with self-sufficiency and rugged individualism.

What Needs to be Done about the Cultural Elements of Interest
In order to change change the cultural landscape of the USA I must first make it plain to a majority of people that no individual exists in a vacuum and that no one may claim sole credit for their list of accomplishments. We exist as a society of people, and the networks between us are denser than the rugged individualist would ever wish to believe. The CEO is only as effective as the work of his secretaries, executives, middle-managers, and so forth. He does NOT get to claim sole responsibility for the company's success (which is the source of his great wealth), no matter how much he may have fooled himself into believing otherwise. He is wealthy, but he is not wealthy exclusively as a consequence of his own labor. Many hands went into making him rich, hands belonging to names he may not even know. Even the window washers and janitors played a role by keeping his building professional-looking enough for his firm to be taken seriously by consumers.

Life is much more like a game of baseball than a game of singles tennis. The illusion of the rugged, self-sufficient American has to be shattered if I am to meet my goals. That is my task. Once that is gone, it will be much easier to convince people that relying upon one another in times of need is hardly a mark of weakness and does not inherently entail laziness on the part of all. Countries such as Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and Finland all show this to be true because they are all very productive societies in spite of (or perhaps as a consequence of) their dense interconnections.

Structural Elements of Interest
You made the claim that the people of the USA are more divided by social class than ethnicity. I would argue that the structural barrier to implementation of my plans has been at least somewhat influenced by the differences in crime rates and poverty between ethnic groups. If it is perceived that a particular ethnic group is receiving a disproportionate amount of the welfare and has a higher crime rate people of other ethnic groups begin to feel short-changed. This is largely a problem of attitude, because when one examines the picture more closely there are logical reasons that certain ethnic groups have disproportionate levels of crime and poverty.

What Needs to be Done about the Structural Elements of Interest, and One Institutional Element as a Bonus

My task therefore is to convince people to examine the picture more closely, find the reasons that certain ethnic groups are disproportionately poor and have higher rates of criminality, and to work toward rectifying the situation based on the findings rather than engaging in a knee-jerk reaction and opposing increased aid for the poor on account of its disproportionate delivery to certain ethnic groups.

We should also consider modifying our approach to former criminals, changing the objective of our justice system from delivery of punishment as a disincentive to commit crimes to an objective of rehabilitating criminals into productive members of society. Norway has a fascinating approach to just this issue, and it appears to be relatively successful. Of course, this is not a structural issue but rather an institutional one, but putting this comment here saves me the trouble of having to loop back around (saving you reading).

Another advantage is Denmark is surrounded by wealthy neighbors maimg it harder to outsource jobs.

Actually, it's Denmark's strong (but reasonable) labor movement and its competitive corporate tax rate that combats the forces of outsourcing. The US has a poor neighbor to the south, sure. But not all US jobs are being outsourced to that neighbor. In fact, a great deal of those jobs are being outsourced to the opposite planetary hemisphere. There are more reasons to outsource to places so far away than simply cutting production costs (seeking more favorable regulatory environments and avoiding locations which are hotbeds for bad PR are others).

[Hittanryan]

I will admit Denmark has done an excellent job and probably the best job possible (considering their generous welfare). What may hurt Denmark in the future is that many companies are freely willing to move to places where wages and regulations are lower. China workers are less productive but you can hire 3 of them for much cheaper than 1 Dane. International trade is helping many of the poorer countries (that embrace some free market policies like China) but it hurts the wealthy places like the USA and western Europe. The only way to compete in the future with China is to decrease certain regulations. I am unsure about Denmark but America has suffered massive job loss due to it being easier to outsource jobs overseas (look at IT jobs going to India). Mexico is right across the border and offers a very cheap source of production.

This conclusion, based on the facts, cannot be more wrong. The US cannot win the race to the bottom with China. People in the US are not going to go for child labor, sweatshops, standard of living taking a nosedive, and rampant state human rights abuses and manipulation of the market to make us come out better. Our only option here is to make US workers worth the extra cost. If Chinese workers are cheaper and there are more of them, we need to make each individual US worker that much more efficient.

It seems most Danes accept the tradeoff of good social welfare for higher taxes. This will be a very tough sell for America though. The high crime rates in poor neighborhoods make people less likely to want to help the poor. The USA is divided more heavily divided on financial class than race. People usually flee their poor neighborhood when they can instead of helping it become better. This probably happens less in Denmark but I am unsure. Another advantage is Denmark is surrounded by wealthy neighbors maimg it harder to outsource jobs.

Or it could be this Republican myth about welfare queens and their delusional beliefs regarding the working poor.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

1. Get rid of Obamacare and implement a genuine universal healthcare system.
2. Return all unconstitutional federal powers back to the states.
3. Implement a flat tax.
4. Deport all illegal immigrants.

So you hate freedom, the United States, and the principles upon which the United States founded...got it, thank you.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

1. Get rid of Obamacare and implement a genuine universal healthcare system.
2. Return all unconstitutional federal powers back to the states.
3. Implement a flat tax.
4. Deport all illegal immigrants.

So you hate freedom, the United States, and the principles upon which the United States founded...got it, thank you.

Sigh...

Well, Bluth, please enlighten us as to how him wanting those things is so anti-American.

[Castille de Italia]

We could start a war that would actually create jobs since all the men are fighting, but that goes under false flag operations, like 9/11 supposedly...

[Patriqvinia]

We could start a war that would actually create jobs since all the men are fighting, but that goes under false flag operations, like 9/11 supposedly...

Yeah, because the economy was absolutely booming while fighting in Iraq...

[Castille de Italia]

We could start a war that would actually create jobs since all the men are fighting, but that goes under false flag operations, like 9/11 supposedly...

Yeah, because the economy was absolutely booming while fighting in Iraq...

No, you missed the point. I meant war like WW2, which improved the economy. I mentioned false flag ops because that's what it wuld take to start a war.